Exhale

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Link to tweet

[servermsh]

2. I can't exhale just yet.

Now we have to wait to see what THAT board does. I'm not going to assume they will certify.

There could be tons of Trumpies marching in the streets with guns to put pressure on them.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. They won't certify. They're already deadlocked at 2-2.

So, it goes to the State Legislature.

[Marius25]

5. No, this was the Wayne County canvassers.

Now it goes to the full Board of Canvassers for the State and the Secretary of State (who is a Dem) to certify and bill Wayne County for the hassle.

[Drunken Irishman]

7. I know. The State Board of Canvassers is also going to be deadlocked.

It's got two Republicans as well.

[Marius25]

10. Maybe one of them isn't quite as insane as the Wayne Count one.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. The legislature ...

The legislature is required by their state Constitution to award their Electoral College votes to the popular vote winner. I guess if they're intent on creating chaos by ignoring it they can.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. Logically, yes. But if a county doesn't certify their results...

...maybe that means those votes don't count toward the state's total popular vote.

If that's the case, Trump wins the popular vote 2,386,265 to 2,208,938.

[Drunken Irishman]

3. The State Board of Canvassers is also deadlocked 2-2, so, it'll go to the legislature.

[greenjar_01]

14. That's a mischaracterization

The state board has a membership of 2-2. That doesn't mean it is deadlocked. In ordinary English, we use deadlocked to indicate a vote or failure to agree that has already happened, not to describe a split in membership.

[Drunken Irishman]

18. Maybe but why would I trust two Republicans to do the right thing?

Especially after we just saw two Michigan Republicans refuse to certify?

[greenjar_01]

19. The State Board has not deadlocked

Saying they have is false.

[Drunken Irishman]

20. It's deadlocked until they prove otherwise.

I will assume as much based on already seeing a 2-2 deadlocked decision in Wayne County. If you don't like it, tough shit. It's split GOP and Democrat. I am not naive enough to bank on the idea that the GOP will do the right thing here.

[greenjar_01]

21. Good Lord

For the rest of us, words still mean what they mean. You do you, though.

[Drunken Irishman]

22. Yes, Good Lord.

You've been on my nuts for weeks now. What's fascinating, though, is that my concern about PA tightening, which you dismissed as 'theme of the day' back in October proved correct.

You can keep your head in the clouds all you like but as someone who's generally taken an eye-roll approach to the post-election drama, this is the first time I've actually been given pause. It's great you have unshakable faith in the GOP to do the right thing.

But I just hope your faith here isn't the same as your faith in Biden romping in Pennsylvania and Cunningham winning in North Carolina, which you seemed pretty damn sure of a few weeks ago.

Good Lord, indeed.

[greenjar_01]

23. I don't even know you

Get a hold of yourself.

[Drunken Irishman]

25. haha don't lie.

Or maybe it's just forgetfulness.

I remember you because you always found your way into my threads attacking me on the themes of the week:

Case in point:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100214321497#post21

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214317505#post2

Have fun with that. I'm guessing I won't get an apology for my posts suggesting a bit of concern over tightening polls, though, even though you mocked me.

Anyway, i am done with you. I'm sure you'll show up again pissing and moaning about something I post. But whatever.

Hope you're right and the GOP does the right thing.

[greenjar_01]

29. I can't keep track of each fallen robin, my guy

My argument is not that the GOP will do the right thing, and you know that, however desperately you wish to shift it to that. My argument is that you are misinforming people that the vote of the state board of canvassers has already happened by calling it deadlocked, which is a mischaracterization, as I said. It is not deadlocked, since it hasn't happened yet. If you'll be honorable and admit that, I'll concede that it's likely to be deadlocked when it does happen, though not guaranteed.

By the way, not a lot of people know this, but Biden actually did win Pennsylvania.

[obamanut2012]

24. You need to quit saying this all obver threads, it isn't true

They haven't even reviewed or voted yet. The Wayne County debacle literally just happened.

This is fucked up, but it doesn't mean it is over and going to the legislature by any means.

[Drunken Irishman]

27. Hopefully but I don't have confidence since it's split 2-2.

[bearsfootball516]

26. They're not deadlocked. You can't be deadlocked unless they've voted.

[Drunken Irishman]

28. This is true. I am assuming they'll vote along party lines.

I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption after what we just witnessed. That would make it deadlock at 2-2 since the board is two Democrats and two Republicans.

[Thekaspervote]

6. Read the twitter thread. This is more gop shenanigans with no legs

[mvd]

8. Yep, not panicking

Just disgraceful that they tried, however. I am tired of being nice with these people.

[Thekaspervote]

9. Oh just so sickening..and me too tired of playing nice

[Midnight Writer]

11. To be fair, Biden only won by 148,000 votes. That must be confusing for Republican cranks.

[Blue_true]

15. What Trump people are doing in every state is seeing how much Joe won by,

then saying that Trump was somehow cheated out of at least twice that number of votes. But they provide no evidence.

[Thekaspervote]

13. A msg from the MI SOS

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Blue_true]

17. Yep, having a Democrat at the helm of elections insures fair elections, and that small

issues that arise will be honestly addressed.