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Raffensperger had staffers with him on call with Lindsey Graham (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
Witnesses! LisaL Nov 2020 #1
Lordy let there be tapes! (n/t) Moostache Nov 2020 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2020 #2
Well,... Lindsey may have fried his own ass..... magicarpet Nov 2020 #3
That would be perfect malaise Nov 2020 #9
Nice! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #15
LOL malaise Nov 2020 #19
Quite an inconvenience for him, I'm sure sandensea Nov 2020 #45
Yeah, it's a felony with witnesses CanonRay Nov 2020 #4
Did you actually read the article that Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #10
He also said he doesn't want his administration mired in investigations of Trump's conduct CanonRay Nov 2020 #13
We'll see but Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #14
I agree PatSeg Nov 2020 #22
this obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #26
Oh yes PatSeg Nov 2020 #32
Lordy she'd be OUTSTANDING! calimary Nov 2020 #57
Yes, she is! PatSeg Nov 2020 #61
Well, we've got plenty of women warming up in the proverbial bullpen. calimary Nov 2020 #64
Oh, that is deliciously devious indeed! PatSeg Nov 2020 #65
His "administration" should not be taking part in any investigations...the courts should. cbdo2007 Nov 2020 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Nov 2020 #48
No comment DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #5
ruh-roh lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #6
This is really bad. Harrison should demand an audit of the election results now liberal_mama Nov 2020 #7
Not to mention KY & FL! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #16
Florida malaise Nov 2020 #20
Ty! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #50
Iowa and Maine also should be investigated for fraud kimbutgar Nov 2020 #40
Right! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #49
The voting machines in sc do not have paper questionseverything Nov 2020 #66
Oh heck yeah mdelaguna Nov 2020 #8
I bet he was talking to McConnell. nt babylonsister Nov 2020 #11
"Mr. Raffensperger said, adding that he had staffers with him on that call." Botany Nov 2020 #12
No doubt! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Botany Nov 2020 #23
I don't care about his orientation either, except the hypocracy SheltieLover Nov 2020 #27
Yeah, misgendering people for lol is sooooooooo funny obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #30
yeah the hypocrisy is worthy of ridicule Kali Nov 2020 #21
Look I don't care that Graham is gay but I do care that he is a back stabbing little un-American shit Botany Nov 2020 #25
I agree completely Kali Nov 2020 #28
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. Botany Nov 2020 #31
Please quit misgendering Graham as an insult -- it is really transphobic obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #29
Sorry! Botany Nov 2020 #33
Smart! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #18
This is bad, as in Graham should resign bad obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #24
Apparently not bad enough to be investigated and prosecuted by state and federal authorities. Sneederbunk Nov 2020 #35
yet... johnnyfins Nov 2020 #56
The Repugs want some ballot fraud investigations -- the DEMs NCjack Nov 2020 #34
And what will happen to him? ramapo Nov 2020 #36
Uh oh... liberalla Nov 2020 #37
good to know. barbtries Nov 2020 #38
Resign, Graham. You turd! ffr Nov 2020 #39
I'm shocked. Not that Graham asked, but that Raffensperger reported it. tinrobot Nov 2020 #41
No doubt Graham didn't expect to be reported. LisaL Nov 2020 #42
He's been getting death threats... stillcool Nov 2020 #44
And....the hole gets a little deeper. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #43
Why did Raffensperger go public with this? jcgoldie Nov 2020 #46
Inthink it's that and that his family are getting death threats obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #51
Another "perfect" phone call? Hopefully it was recorded by the witnesses. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #52
We need to shift the media's attention from fruitless allegations of voter fraud raised by Quitler Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #53
+1,000,000 THIS diva77 Nov 2020 #55
Why would the lib'rul media ever do that? JudyM Nov 2020 #62
Graham figured on a rethuglican SOS being able to deliver the election for rethugs - diva77 Nov 2020 #54
It's a felony. 18 USC 595 James48 Nov 2020 #58
KNR Lucinda Nov 2020 #60
I wonder if trumpsey tried to blackmail Raff? ecstatic Nov 2020 #63

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Turin_C3PO

(13,649 posts)
10. Did you actually read the article that
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:08 PM
Nov 2020

said that about Biden? It says he wouldn’t interfere and leave prosecutions up to the DOJ. That’s the way it should be: an independent DOJ.

CanonRay

(14,036 posts)
13. He also said he doesn't want his administration mired in investigations of Trump's conduct
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:10 PM
Nov 2020

which is another way to say "move on". Don't tell me that won't influence and AG.

Turin_C3PO

(13,649 posts)
14. We'll see but
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:13 PM
Nov 2020

I can say with near certainty that there will be DOJ prosecutions of some Trump administration officials. Trump himself might be left to the state of New York and that’s fine. He won’t escape some type of justice.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
22. I agree
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

and I think it is best if Biden is not involved, especially after the way Trump exerted so much influence over the DOJ for four years. He needs to be seen as very different. There are plenty of people who can handle Trump and his corrupt friends. Meanwhile, Biden will have plenty on his plate from day one.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
61. Yes, she is!
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

I love her. Plus I expect Joe to pick a whole lot of women for his administration. This will be a very diverse administration, just as he said.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
64. Well, we've got plenty of women warming up in the proverbial bullpen.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 06:48 PM
Nov 2020

Can't really call it a cow pen.

Sally Yates. Stacey Abrams is another one (YEAH I know she wants to run for governor again...).

AND ... who've we got at the state level? Like, for example, who've we got where there's a Democratic governor who'd appoint another Democrat - or better yet, a Republican SENATOR whose Democratic governor could replace him or her with another Democrat? Same thing for a House member. Might be a sneaky way to get one more Dem in as a replacement - and flip another House seat from red back to blue.

Think strategy here. And the more devious, the better.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
65. Oh, that is deliciously devious indeed!
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:18 PM
Nov 2020

I remember Obama tried doing that, but the republican backed out. I think he was pressured not to take the position, but wanted to. I can't remember his name now.

I've been very impressed with all the amazing women Democratic governors and mayors that we have now. It was like overnight, women started to take over and they are good at it!

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
47. His "administration" should not be taking part in any investigations...the courts should.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

Along with the FBI.

This is the same phrasing Biden used in the debates because we need to separate his powers with that of investigating and ruling judgement on Trump and his illegalities.

Response to CanonRay (Reply #13)

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
7. This is really bad. Harrison should demand an audit of the election results now
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:04 PM
Nov 2020

If Lindsey is bold enough to tell the Georgia Secretary of State to throw out ballots, imagine what he did in South Carolina.

kimbutgar

(20,871 posts)
40. Iowa and Maine also should be investigated for fraud
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:08 PM
Nov 2020

I bet a lot of ballots are still stuck or lost in the post office from left leaning areas of those states.

In Kentucky a bunch of people registered for absentee and over 1 million eligible voters did not return their ballots.

questionseverything

(9,631 posts)
66. The voting machines in sc do not have paper
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:04 AM
Nov 2020

So impossible to audit....I think they should be illegal

The only paper are the absentee ballots

Botany

(70,281 posts)
12. "Mr. Raffensperger said, adding that he had staffers with him on that call."
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:09 PM
Nov 2020

And given this news Lindsey was seen heading to his fainting couch.

Response to SheltieLover (Reply #17)

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
27. I don't care about his orientation either, except the hypocracy
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:29 PM
Nov 2020

But he needs to be prosecuted, tried & given max sentence for this!

Kali

(54,990 posts)
21. yeah the hypocrisy is worthy of ridicule
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

but homophobic slurs are just another form of bigotry

Botany

(70,281 posts)
25. Look I don't care that Graham is gay but I do care that he is a back stabbing little un-American shit
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:29 PM
Nov 2020

I hope "they" hammer Graham unceasingly about this call (if true) because I am
still pissed about his part in the 7 year 77 million $ blow job hunt of Bill Clinton.

Although given his sexuality and the GOP's use of anti LGBT hate to whip up their
base I find Graham really disgusting.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
28. I agree completely
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:31 PM
Nov 2020

but calling him ms. ridicules more than just him. it is hurtful to actual human beings.

obamanut2012

(25,905 posts)
29. Please quit misgendering Graham as an insult -- it is really transphobic
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:32 PM
Nov 2020

And misogynist. He is not a "Ms." Why would you misgender a cis man? Please, do not do this.

obamanut2012

(25,905 posts)
24. This is bad, as in Graham should resign bad
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:26 PM
Nov 2020

He won't and won't be made to, but JFC. Props to the SoS in GA -- wingnut or no, he has integrity.

tinrobot

(10,848 posts)
41. I'm shocked. Not that Graham asked, but that Raffensperger reported it.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:17 PM
Nov 2020

He's a Republican. They usually don't do stuff like that.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
43. And....the hole gets a little deeper.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

Oh, Senator. You thought you were the belle of the ball, didn't you?

jcgoldie

(11,582 posts)
46. Why did Raffensperger go public with this?
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:31 PM
Nov 2020

I understand he may be an honest civil servant doing his job regardless of party but turning in another republican for what looks like a crime seems to be a step further... is he angry over being scapegoated by Trump because he lost GA?

obamanut2012

(25,905 posts)
51. Inthink it's that and that his family are getting death threats
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:53 PM
Nov 2020

And they are afraid.

Also, by saying the election in GA has fraud, they are calling him either an unethical criminal cheat or a dupe.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
53. We need to shift the media's attention from fruitless allegations of voter fraud raised by Quitler
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

And focus on the very real, very powerful allegations of ELECTION FRAUD on the part of the Republican Party.

Please, media, flip the script for once. There's a bombshell story here, and it ain't Joe Biden who needs to answer to it.

diva77

(7,604 posts)
54. Graham figured on a rethuglican SOS being able to deliver the election for rethugs -
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

which wasn't an unrealistic assumption considering past history of some rethuglican SOS's.

James48

(4,416 posts)
58. It's a felony. 18 USC 595
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020
18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
U.S. Code



Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
63. I wonder if trumpsey tried to blackmail Raff?
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 05:40 PM
Nov 2020

If so, THIS is how you deal with that shite!! Expose 'em.

Although, it's also likely that they have NOTHING on Raff, considering his background as an engineer. I assume he knows how to properly protect his email accounts and devices.

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