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LaMouffette

(2,016 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 11:07 AM Nov 2020

Trump voters get absolutely rabid at the idea of welfare recipients getting paid for doing nothing,

just watching TV all day long, stuffing their faces with food they bought with SNAP money, and not doing any work at all.

"Those lazy, good-fer-nothin' sons-of-bitches! I work my ass off all day long, and they don't do nothin'!"

So how is it they tolerate this behavior from Trump? Doesn't it make them the tiniest bit angry that Trump does NO work whatsoever?

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Trump voters get absolutely rabid at the idea of welfare recipients getting paid for doing nothing, (Original Post) LaMouffette Nov 2020 OP
No, they admire rich people who do nothing. Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #1
Evidently they've never been on welfare. blueinredohio Nov 2020 #2
Trump voters rabid at the idea of BROWN welfare recipients getting paid for doing nothing, JCMach1 Nov 2020 #3
Yep, that's it. CatMor Nov 2020 #5
You are so right! And the idea of brown women with children getting paid for doing nothing is enough LaMouffette Nov 2020 #6
I've seen it just said as the opposite. theaocp Nov 2020 #4
I haven't seen any of that kind of behavior for years. Baked Potato Nov 2020 #7
Because they see themselves falsely, in many cases. Greybnk48 Nov 2020 #8
Trump voters, like most conservatives, get upset at the idea of "unfairness". Caliman73 Nov 2020 #9
In our tiny town, NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #10
Most of them insist that he has opted not to take a salary MissMillie Nov 2020 #11
Because trump holds so many rallies they kacekwl Nov 2020 #12

Phoenix61

(16,990 posts)
1. No, they admire rich people who do nothing.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 11:13 AM
Nov 2020

They want to be them and are convinced the reason they aren’t is the government keep and the immigrants and women’s rights and blah, blah, blah.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
3. Trump voters rabid at the idea of BROWN welfare recipients getting paid for doing nothing,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 11:35 AM
Nov 2020

There, fixed it for you!

LaMouffette

(2,016 posts)
6. You are so right! And the idea of brown women with children getting paid for doing nothing is enough
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:27 PM
Nov 2020

to make their heads explode.

theaocp

(4,231 posts)
4. I've seen it just said as the opposite.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

He's the hardest working! Look at all he's done! If you don't, you're looking at Fake News!

Greybnk48

(10,161 posts)
8. Because they see themselves falsely, in many cases.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

I met someone in 2014 who has been on assistance every day, and continues to be to this day (she's a relative now). Her two able bodied daughters are as well. When their checks are threatened they feign mental or physical disability, and get away with it.

It's clear to me that when she raves about the evil people on assistance, she's talking about black people in Statesboro, not her "good" white buddies who go to the local quasi-segregated mega-church, even though many there milk the system as well.

She does not think that what she's getting is the same thing, oddly. And she thinks it's ok for her daughter to get snap even when she has a really good job. That's "different" too.

*I don't begrudge people with kids getting food assistance. I'm sick to death of the wealthy tax breaks and as far as I'm concerned all people with kids can get food assistance. Just quit being hypocritical about it.

Caliman73

(11,719 posts)
9. Trump voters, like most conservatives, get upset at the idea of "unfairness".
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:26 PM
Nov 2020

Like the rest of us do. The difference is in what the "unfairness" is attributed to. Conservatives have, at least since the time of Nixon been told that agitators (Hippies, Black Panthers, anti-war protestors) were making their lives more difficult. Reagan started or at least amplified the idea that "welfare queens" and "young bucks" (a racist term for strong Black men) were driving Cadillacs (another racist trope) and buying steaks with government aid. With the advent of right wing media like Fox and right wing radio, that message saturated conservatives to the point that they completely believe it without question.

It is a completely false narrative as most, if not all states require a welfare recipient to be looking for work, training for work, or working, to receive the benefit. Then, when you are working, benefits are reduced or eliminated based on earnings, leaving recipients in a precarious situation where they may be working, lose medical insurance (before the ACA or still in states that did not expand Medicaid) and worry about losing the job they just got and having to repeat the process of getting back on welfare.

Certainly there are people who try to game the system, but fraud levels in public benefits systems is typically pretty low.

Right wingers are fed lies constantly through right wing media and they have been conditioned to accept it.

Liberals attribute "unfairness" differently. We tend to look at "who has the power to really affect situations" and find that it is typically wealthy people and corporations who want to pay low to no taxes, who then shift the financial burden of public goods and services to the rest of us. It makes more sense, to us as liberals, that people with more money, more power, and more influence, are more likely to have an effect on our lives than people just struggling to get by. Not to right wingers I guess.

NameAlreadyTaken

(973 posts)
10. In our tiny town,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

they sit aound all day talking about how much they hate government, thrn they go down and cash their government check.

MissMillie

(38,519 posts)
11. Most of them insist that he has opted not to take a salary
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:51 PM
Nov 2020

which to me just proves the old adage: you get what you pay for.

kacekwl

(7,008 posts)
12. Because trump holds so many rallies they
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:55 PM
Nov 2020

consider him the hardest working man in showbiz, er,a gobernmint.

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