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Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:50 AM

Army basic training taught us that the U.S. is almost un-attackable.

(trust me, there's a valuable lesson to be learned here vs our blank-check MIC spending)

One of the most valuable lessons I've ever learned in life is that our country, due to its geographic isolation, is nearly impossible to attack on a full scale invasion.

Our east and west borders are protected by thousands of miles of unforgiving oceans. It would be almost impossible to "sail" a navy across either ocean to attack, defeat, and capture the U.S.

To land an army, to capture our seas and seaports, to invade and conquer the US into submission and surrender would require a world-wide effort vs the U.S.

In other words, good luck with that.

There are 3 basic options to attack the U.S.

Staging an army in Mexico or Canada, in which we could simply bomb staging points to smithereens...

Missiles.. Guess what, we have missiles too. The threat of mutual destruction means only an imbecile would shoot a missile at the U.S.

Cyber warfare.. again, we have hackers too.

Since 1980 and Ray-gun, we have been lied to on a criminal level. We've been force-fed the same old bullshit that we need to spend our nation's treasure into bankrupting levels to fund our national "defense".

9/11 happened because Bush let it happen. We could've stopped that attack before it happened but Bush needed his war to prop up his failing presidency.

Show me a military worthy of attacking the U.S. and defeating us on our own soil and I'll laugh in anyone's face.

This lesson, taught to me by my beloved drill sergeants in basic training still resonates today, perhaps louder than ever.

It's beyond time to expose the profit-driven lies barfed out by the MIC, Raytheon, Northrup-Grumman etc.

All we need is..
a downsized, high-tech military, WITHIN OUR OWN BORDERS that monitors our 4 borders. We don't need a military spread across the globe that can conquer the planet 10 times over while also bankrupting our nation and lining the pockets of MIC vultures.

The MIC is criminal political corruption defined.

NEVER let anyone tell you that we need to spend ourselves into bankruptcy to fund a world-dominating military force that has proven unsustainable.

Nature has provided our continent with more defense measures that any military weapon ever could. Isolation.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:59 AM

1. there is a globalised US empiric MIC in order to maintain the petrodollar matrix, which let's the US

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maintain the USD as the world's reserve currency, and thus have damn near unlimited debt assumption ability

there is always someone willing and needing to buy/exchange for USD in order to buy petrol

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Response to Celerity (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 06:52 AM

9. Yeah, until somebody screws it all up with renewable energy technology deployed on a massive scale.

That's the new "enemy of the people" folks. If fossil fuel loses it's value the cleptocracy becomes unstable. Elections going all directions in a progressive chain reaction which could unseat the powers that be. Billionaires going billion-less. Selling penny stocks on street corners. The only solution is more military spending. Inventing enemies to fight, ginning up outrage at whatever moves. The final solution? Trumpism.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 04:41 AM

2. Some of us old farts remember Nikita Khrushchev

when he said "We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within....

just saying....

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 04:42 AM

4. Putin is an

excellent student.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 04:42 AM

3. The US will collapse under its own weight.

The separatist elements that were to emerge have been pacified by a Biden victory. Rather similar to the 1850s.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 05:07 AM

5. Military spending has been much worse, but is getting better!

This is the last ten years:



In the 1960ies the cost was getting close to 10 percent of GDP. Since the Cold War it fell to between 3 and 5. No reason not to let it drop further - what about reaching down for that two percent limit NATO is being harassed about?

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?end=2019&locations=US&start=1960&view=chart

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Response to TomVilmer (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 06:05 AM

8. That's a feel-good baseline from the Great Recession. Chart more about Obama economy than anything.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:02 PM

14. Here is more of that good feeling - also from before Obama...

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 05:07 AM

6. The US is an Empire

And empires never last forever.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 05:37 AM

7. As tRUMP and the reTHUGS have shown us, the greatest threat to the U.S. comes from

within. And it's already here.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:45 AM

10. They named it right the first time "United States Department of War"

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"The United States Department of War, also called the War Department (and occasionally War Office in the early years), was the United States Cabinet department originally responsible for the operation and maintenance of the United States Army, also bearing responsibility for naval affairs until the establishment of the Navy Department in 1798, and for most land-based air forces until the creation of the Department of the Air Force on September 18, 1947."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_War#:~:text=The%20War%20Department%20existed%20from,Department%20of%20Defense%20in%201949.

USA became the empire they were supposed to be getting away from - "lost the ball" so to speak.

USA's ventures around the globe since WW2 were/are destruction/domination - not protection imo.

POTUS haven't run the country for ages - that's the MIC and Wall Street/Oligarchs/Elite/big pharma/oil etc - yeah - $$$$ . . . . that's what running(ruining) the country right now. . .

(sigh)

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:16 AM

11. Our enemies know that so Putin recruited a con man to take us down from within.

We may have dodged a bullet this time but 4 years from now it could happen again. They have the advantage,
in order for us to win we have to get several million more votes just to break even. The Republicans have handed us another mess to clean up. Obama dug us out of a deep recession but you ask about 72 million people in this country they think Trump
inherited a bad economy and Trump saved us. Four years from now we will probably still be climbing out of this hole and again
with the help of the media saying again over and over "In this bad economy" the Republicans could win again.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

13. Very true.

Putin did recruit a con man to take us down from the inside.

Biden will inherit a fiscal mess when he is sworn in, along with a raging pandemic.

Quite a mess left by Trump.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:50 AM

12. You can't maintain 4% of the global people consuming 20% of goods & services without the military

Our living standard is about 5 times the global average, and it depends on dominating the trade of critical commodities and the dollar-based global financial system.

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Response to Imallin4Joe (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:13 PM

15. The way to defeat us is to isolate us from allies, like nato & trade partners

Why do you think so much propaganda is spent attacking US "imperialism" and free trade agreements? Because you don't defeat america by landing tanks on the west coast. You defeat it by defeating liberal democracy and mutually beneficial international cooperation.

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