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(3,695 posts)Messaging matters and Dems manage to f**k it up from time to time. Our far left faction of the party don't seem to be willing to accept that their messaging and actions during elections can have a negative impact on other races in red and purple. Because they are usually in deep blue districts they don't have to worry about messaging. They also don't seem to recognize that they only win in deep blue districts where any Dem could win.
Turin_C3PO
(13,906 posts)Even in dark blue districts, most Dems running werent for any of those things listed above. It was a complete lie propagated by Republicans.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)and that's what happens when people don't listen to exactly what they are saying... The DNC seemed relative disengaged.
Deacon Blue
(252 posts)And picked up by more visible folks on this side. Thats Mrs. Deacon Blues take. Saw the NYT article, couldnt agree more.
How about De-MILITARIZE the police? Visual image of AFVs and GWOT surplus on the Streets of America instantly pops into your consciousness. We had an incident in Austin where the APD deployed the SWAT team, 2 drones and a sniper for overwatch (and many other expensive and oppressive law enforcement assets) for one woman who was afraid to get out if her car, in broad daylight at a busy intersection. There may have been a tracked robot deployed to approach the car. Bystanders were being photographed and videod by Texas DPS troopers. The woman drew attention due to a retracted report that the car she was in was stolen, and no doubt the cop-bait FTP-type slogans plastered all over it did what cop-bait does, after all. She worked at a local head shop (are they still called that?), and she had her Chihuahua with her. Theres a script there: Little Dog Day Afternoon?
We got saddled with the Left by a French political thinker long ago, I think. I know a former nun who was broken of the problem of being left-handed by Catholic nuns. Sinister is from the Latin for left-handed. Its only gotten worse since. We shoot ourselves in both feet over and over in the messaging game, because many of us value nuance, and in the Age of the Shortening Attention Span, whos got time for that?
Challenging (to some, anyway) ideas have to be distilled into short, appealing three or four word phrases, even acronyms, which cannot be purposed against progress by the people we beat overseas in WWII, and turned loose at home to stop Commies, pinkos, and (wait for it) socialists (never mind that lotsa those WWII heroes draw Social Security) and the non-vets LOVE their Medicare (St. Ron and his AuH2O/Randite fellow travelers fought that tooth and nail as the end of medicine, now its very popular). ACA (if you like it) Obamacare (if you dont) is tracing a similar arc toward acceptance.
But we MUST start making our goals, which generally poll well across the largest area under the opinion bell curve, more user-friendly. Just sayin.
Turin_C3PO
(13,906 posts)are for open borders, defunding the police, or socialism. I dont doubt that the perception of us was twisted. Repubs were able to paint us that way due to their skills at messaging and propaganda. Thats what we need to figure out. A way to combat their lies.
JHB
(37,154 posts)Explicitly partisan RW media is everywhere. Even for people not seeking it out, hate radio blares on AM for anyone just turning the dial to see what's on, FOX plays in waiting rooms, scare-em stories from wingnut sites are promoted on social media. They push their stories and their language, and they've been doing this for decades.
essaynnc
(799 posts)And THEY are so much better at it. The examples are endless... baby killers, tax and spend, socialists, open borders, swiftboat, weak on crime, the list is endless.
Americans don't want a scientific analysis with charts and numbers and tests of how nice the tp will feel on their butts, they remember "squeezably soft" and "Please don't squeeze the charmin" !!
have we ever been successful at a slogan or messaging that paints them in a box??? Hire somebody to do it with us if we can't, there are lots of ad agencies for hire...
Gothmog
(144,913 posts)In my congressional district, the only real ad from the GOP candidate who won was on MFA where he claimed that taxes would have to double to pay for this program with a mention of the Green New Deal and Defund the Police. We lost this district