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Not a C&W fan but tonight is a great time for some Charlie Daniels - The Devil Went Down To Georgia! (Original Post) George II Nov 2020 OP
Great Call! The Roux Comes First Nov 2020 #1
I saw Charlie Daniels in concert in Sand Diego in 1976. Sea Level (the remains of the abqtommy Nov 2020 #2
I don't hate the song. And like real classic country. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #3
Not just a right winger StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #4
True, but I generally don't let my political beliefs dictate my music taste. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #7
I do StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #8
As a white man I really can't disagree with you. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #11
Thanks StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #12
The temp is the same as your sig image - fun to watch! n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #5
that fiddle is wicked!!! CatWoman Nov 2020 #6
Before the Devil went down there. CDB-Georgia. brewens Nov 2020 #9
The Devil edhopper Nov 2020 #10
I wouldn't listen to that POS racist MFer if he were the ONLY musician on earth Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #13
the best Charlie Daniels song.... quickesst Nov 2020 #14
What the hell happened to Daniels? Archae Nov 2020 #15
I believe.... quickesst Nov 2020 #19
he's on the Kyrstie Alley/Randy Quaid/James Woods/Jon Voight list bdtrppr6 Nov 2020 #16
Thanks, George. I like that folk story & song in all iterations. I was powerfully reminded ... Hekate Nov 2020 #17
I prefer my singers to not be racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #18
Gross. nt Codeine Nov 2020 #20
And hitler had a few decent paintings Demonaut Nov 2020 #21
The OP did not mention it.... quickesst Nov 2020 #22
If ever there was a time time for music by a racist right winger POS I guess it would be now. Autumn Nov 2020 #23

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. I saw Charlie Daniels in concert in Sand Diego in 1976. Sea Level (the remains of the
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:26 PM
Nov 2020

Allman Brothers) opened for them and I bought their album. I've always considered
Charlie Daniels to be a Southern Rock Band. There's not much flute in Country. No matter, it's all good.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
3. I don't hate the song. And like real classic country.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:27 PM
Nov 2020

But CD was a right winger.

I think Ray Charles’ ‘Georgia On My Mind’ is my choice.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
7. True, but I generally don't let my political beliefs dictate my music taste.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

I think Hank Williams, the senior one who died in 53, was one of America’s greatest ever song writers. Just reading the list of songs he wrote in 28 short years is amazing. He was a white man from Alabama born in the 20’s. I have no doubt he was racist. Although he credited an old black man with teaching him.

I could listen to him sing all day long. I have an aunt of 90 who saw him live.

Have a great weekend.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. I do
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:45 PM
Nov 2020

I can't enjoy someone's music if I know that they hate or look down on me. I can't compartmentalize like that.

That said, there is a difference between a white man raised in Alabama in the 1920s being a racist and someone living in these times holding those views. You're probably not sure of Hank Williams' views on race because, unlike Charlie Daniels, he didn't use his platform to broadcast them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
11. As a white man I really can't disagree with you.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:03 AM
Nov 2020

Especially a southern white man. It gets complicated.

My dad was born in the early 30’s. He defied his father and went to the State University to get away from what he described as the oppressive atmosphere in the rural south in the 40s. He hated the way blacks and even poor whites were treated. Rather than going to college local and staying at home and being a boss at the mill. He was very liberal for the 50’s thru the time of his early death in 91. He taught my sister in I to be open to all races and religions. Interestingly, he was a big believer that southern whites had more core things in common with southern blacks than they did northern whites. Only after he died did I find his copy of C. Vann Woodward’s ‘The Irony of Southern History’ which ended up being incorrect but I think shaped his thinking.

That said, I know he had his limits and if he were alive today he may not agree with me on many issues. Just like his dad disagreed with him. It hurt their relationship that dad supported the civil rights act strongly. I guess every person and generation has their limits. I doubt he would be down with BLM not being able to see the full spectrum of it. And he would have been in his late 80’s. But he was a good and kind hearted man. There was no hate in our house.

Have a good weekend. I enjoy your posts.

brewens

(13,393 posts)
9. Before the Devil went down there. CDB-Georgia.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:48 PM
Nov 2020

I saw them a couple times back about 1977 and 1981 at Washington State University at Pullman, WA. Great band. Their piano player Taz DiGregorio was really good. Taz sings on the second song.



Ferrets are Cool

(21,059 posts)
13. I wouldn't listen to that POS racist MFer if he were the ONLY musician on earth
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:21 AM
Nov 2020

I would gouge my ear drums out first.

Archae

(46,260 posts)
15. What the hell happened to Daniels?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:41 AM
Nov 2020

He went from a hippy-type that did goofball songs like that, to right-wing Illuminati "true believer?"

By 1980 he was doing songs like this one:



He then fell off the right side of a keyboard.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
19. I believe....
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:12 AM
Nov 2020

.... He fell off the right side of the skateboard after 9/11, embraced the right-wing rhetoric, and created a snowball effect that carried through to his death. Of course, that's just speculation on my part. I'm not the kind of person that lets someone's political views deter me from good music. There are a few exceptions such as Ted Nugent and Kid Rock, but to be honest, I think their music is garbage anyway.

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
16. he's on the Kyrstie Alley/Randy Quaid/James Woods/Jon Voight list
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:44 AM
Nov 2020

fuck Charlie Daniels, shit's red lined for all time. I easily dismiss art I enjoyed when the artist proves to be an asshole. Lots to go around too. I can live without it.

"Uneasy Rider" my ass!

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
17. Thanks, George. I like that folk story & song in all iterations. I was powerfully reminded ...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:35 AM
Nov 2020

...of the story (but did not dare tell it) while on a musical tour of Ireland some years ago. That is, we were tourists, and musicians traveling with us on the bus were giving us a tour of Ireland.

One was a fiddler name Sean, older, with white hair and skin to match. He was the whitest man I ever met who wasn’t an albino, but his chief feature was his skill with a fiddle. One night after dinner our party had a room to ourselves, and as he began to play, a woman walking by the door was drawn in as though by a thread, and she began to dance. Her feet flew, and as if he had been dared, his fingers and bow flew faster yet. She kept up, the bow transcended. She almost but not quite faltered, and kept dancing as fast as he played until he put his bow down.

In awe, all I could think was: “He played the Devil down.”

The story of this musician or that who meets the Devil at a crossroads at night to make a bargain that he (it’s always a he) will be the best of the best is (or was at one time) widely told in America. I knew that Sean had worked at his fiddle night and day in his youth to be the best of the best — but dared not mention the American folktale to this deeply Catholic Irishman.

But the awe never left me.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
22. The OP did not mention it....
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:30 AM
Nov 2020

.... but it has been brought up several times in this thread, so my reply is not directed at anyone in particular. A lot of people won't listen to some music because of the artists political views. For me, it's an easy separation. I ask myself, would I enjoy this song, or this movie if it were sang or portrayed by someone who agreed with my political views? If the answer is yes, simple logic and common sense give the answer I'm seeking.

Autumn

(44,748 posts)
23. If ever there was a time time for music by a racist right winger POS I guess it would be now.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

Has Ted Nugent done anything lately?

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