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Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:37 PM

Discussion in Scottish Parliament about investigating Trump's properties and their financing


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Thread: there's been interesting discussion in the Scottish Parliament this afternoon about the use of Unexplained Wealth Orders to investigate Donald Trump's deals to acquire his Scottish properties and ascertain the sources of the financing 1/


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@patrickharvie
said there is a need to "protect Scotland's good name from association with the toxic Trump brand" and highlighted "serious and long-standing concerns about Trump's business activities," both in Scotland and further afield 2/


Those concerns, he said, include evidence to Congress citing patterns of buying and selling thought suggestive of money laundering, and which drew particular attention to the golf courses in Scotland and Ireland. 3/

"The cause for concern is still growing," Mr Harvie told the parliament. "It's now reported that the Manhattan District Attorney's office is investigating the Trump Organisation's inflation of assets, and potential bank and insurance fraud." 4/

He added: "The Trump Organisation has been accused of repeatedly reporting fraudulent financial details to the US Office of Government Ethics, while reporting a different set of figures to the UK regulators in respect of the Trump golf courses here in Scotland." 5/

Turning to the issue of UWOs - he stressed that the Scottish Government is able to go to court and ask for an order so that it can "start getting answers," but said that so far, the government has refused to either confirm or deny that an investigation is underway. 6/

He added: "Now that Trump is set to lose immunity from prosecution in the US, he may finally be held to account there. Isn't it time that he's also held to account here? Isn't it time for answers from the Trump Organisation and for the Scottish Government to go to court?" 7/

Replying, First Minister
@NicolaSturgeon
said the decision on whether to pursue a UWO against Trump is one for prosecutors, not politicians - specifically, the Crown Office, which she said operated in a "right and proper" independent capacity from government ministers. 8/

She added: "I think everybody is prob well aware of my views about the soon to be former president, and my views are probably no different to ... many people across Scotland. The idea that I'd somehow try to protect him from due accountability I don't think holds much water." 9/

For what it's worth, my understanding of the UWO process is that it's the Scottish Government that can decide to go to court, under section 396A of the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002. The legislation doesn't seem to leave much room for ambiguity: https://legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/29/section/396A ends/

Scottish Greens UWO statement: "We can't continue to turn a blind eye to red flags that surround [Trump's] biz activities in Scotland, sending a signal to not just Trump himself but those who may be lured by our relaxed approach towards investigating possible financial crimes"

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Reply Discussion in Scottish Parliament about investigating Trump's properties and their financing (Original post)
octoberlib Nov 12 OP
OAITW r.2.0 Nov 12 #1
elleng Nov 12 #2
TheBlackAdder Nov 12 #3
SunSeeker Nov 12 #5
PA Democrat Nov 12 #4
world wide wally Nov 12 #6
niyad Nov 12 #7
warmfeet Nov 12 #8
marie999 Nov 12 #9
ProfessorGAC Nov 12 #10
fierywoman Nov 12 #11
JudyM Nov 12 #12
BobTheSubgenius Nov 12 #13

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:43 PM

1. Could Putin and his Crime buddies be investing in Scotland RE, using Trump as their

front? Hmmmmm....might be worth a review.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:44 PM

2. 'There is a need to "protect Scotland's good name from association with the toxic Trump brand"'

ABOUT DAMN TIME!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:47 PM

3. A hell of a lot of real estate in the UK, esp. London, are owned by Russians.

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Many of the homes are locked up as investment properties and kept empty, causing a housing shortage.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:00 PM

5. I had no idea. How horrible!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:59 PM

4. What is fascinating is that Trump just got approval to build another golf course in Scotland

How do you manage that when you have at least a half billion in personal loans coming due? Additionally, Trump's Scottish golf properties have never turned a profit, even before the pandemic (BTW he took bailout money from the UK).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/17/new-trump-golf-course-provokes-fury-in-scotland

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:02 PM

6. Extradite him

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:23 PM

7. Bookmarking for later.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:56 PM

8. Scotland deserves much better than this.

Find out what actually happened and act accordingly.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:58 PM

9. When out of office, Trump better be careful what countries he visits.

He might get bed and board for years.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:00 PM

10. Keep Burning Those Bridges, Donnie-boy!

The shield you needed is evaporating in 68 days.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:43 PM

11. Schadenfreude City, heh-heh-heh ...

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:39 PM

12. Nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:56 PM

13. Time to stop talking and start doing!

The more fronts that can be opened, the more likely he will crack, and the more likely something actionable will be found.

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