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Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:35 PM

What's this about Kentucky?




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Doesn't it seem odd that in Ballard County Kentucky the State Board of Elections shows 2285 registered REPUBLICAN voters as of Oct 2020 yet 3155 people voted for Mitch McConnell?

Ballard County also has 3966 registered Dems but Amy McGrath only got 936 votes?

And theres more...
11:32 AM · Nov 11, 2020


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Doesn't it seem odd that in Ballard County Kentucky the State Board of Elections shows 2285 registered REPUBLICAN voters as of Oct 2020 yet 3155 people voted for Mitch McConnell?

Ballard County also has 3966 registered Dems but Amy McGrath only got 936 votes?

And theres more...

In Bath County Kentucky with 2478 registered REPUBLICAN voters McConnell got 3537 votes?

And with 6730 registered Dems in Bath McGrath only got 1827 votes?

What are the chances that 1000+ registered Dems voted for Mitch & almost 5000 Dems didn't vote for Amy?

And theres more..

Elliott County Kentucky has 860 registered Republicans yet Mitch got 1958 votes?

Many other counties had this type of anomalies where Mitch got way more votes than they have Republican voters but there are other elements of the Kentucky Senate race that should be investigated...

Not only is there a weird pattern of Mitch getting more votes than a county has registered Republicans but Kentucky hasn't counted all their Absentee votes.

655,000 people in Kentucky requested absentee ballots but only 329,869 were counted. What happened to the other 325,131🤔

The GOP seem to have used 'a bag of tricks' to mess with the results. It's a combination of things that includes

👉Somehow getting more Republican votes then there are Republican voters
👉Significant absentee votes not being counted
👉Suppressing the Vote in key Democrat counties

And we can prove it by simply contacting registered Dems. Call them in counties like Ballard & ask who they voted for? Ask:
👉Did they vote?
&
👉Did they vote with their party?

If Amy got 936 votes but we can show 1000+ Dems who voted for her we can go to court with affidavits🤔

This thread looks at Kentucky but we should investigate a few races (Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins, Ernst)

Not only should we be fighting for Georgia, but lets look into this. The GOP claim fraud so let 'em prove their own races are legitimate...lets investigate GOP SENATE RACES

For the sources of the numbers I've quoted I got the data directly from the Registration Statistics & Election results published on the Commonwealth of Kentucky State Board of Elections site.

elect.ky.gov/Resources/Page…

I hope the Media & @AmyMcGrathKY will look into all of this.
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Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
Blue Owl Nov 2020 #1
liberalla Nov 2020 #111
MyMission Nov 2020 #138
liberalla Nov 2020 #139
no_hypocrisy Nov 2020 #2
lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #5
no_hypocrisy Nov 2020 #10
trueblue2007 Nov 2020 #50
Botany Nov 2020 #112
diva77 Nov 2020 #3
questionseverything Nov 2020 #100
diva77 Nov 2020 #104
questionseverything Nov 2020 #107
secondwind Nov 2020 #4
PatSeg Nov 2020 #87
BComplex Nov 2020 #115
PatSeg Nov 2020 #118
BComplex Nov 2020 #119
PatSeg Nov 2020 #120
LisaL Nov 2020 #6
lillypaddle Nov 2020 #8
Josiesdad Nov 2020 #110
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Laelth Nov 2020 #24
Maraya1969 Nov 2020 #90
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Roland99 Nov 2020 #27
LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #45
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:37 PM

1. K&R

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:26 AM

111. The oddest part (to me) is that nearly half of the requested absentee ballots

were not returned. I would do a PSA Announcement advising voters to verify if their ballot was received and counted.

With all the news coverage about election fraud and counting all votes, it may get a strong response from people who discover their vote wasn't included in the vote totals.

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Response to liberalla (Reply #111)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:40 PM

138. Here's another odd anomaly...

Mcturtle had an approval rating in KY of approximately 38%

Interesting that his opponent ended up with 38% of the vote.

Perhaps all the votes were flipped.
Just an interesting observation.

They should absolutely do a PSA and look into the votes there, and elsewhere

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Response to MyMission (Reply #138)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:04 PM

139. You're right! That is interesting. A definite curiosity. Hmmm...

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:39 PM

2. VOTER FRAUD! The real thing!

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:40 PM

5. No, that's election fraud. But Kentucky red, regardless.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:42 PM

10. I stand corrected, thank you.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:46 PM

50. that's election fraud.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:28 AM

112. We don't have voter fraud but we sure do have election fraud.

The polls nationwide were not that far off it was the machines.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:39 PM

3. K&R for exposure!!!!!

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Response to diva77 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:53 AM

100. Amazing work isn't it?

I hope their teams have good coordinators

Cause the Twitter thread had tons of volunteers

I think the absentee ballots are the only paper

I think ky has paperless dre

If we had hand counted paper ballots,there would be no question about the outcome!

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #100)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:12 AM

104. Here's list of voting machines by county in KY again - would be interesting to see what's what/where

https://elect.ky.gov/Resources/Documents/10-17-2019%20-%20Voting%20Machines%20By%20County.pdf

Kudos to those volunteers for getting the info
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Also, KY used EPoll books for this election -- which aren't required to go through the certification process the way voting machines are.

Officials: EPoll book training went well

JOHN WRIGHT • [email protected] Mar 26, 2019

https://www.murrayledger.com/news/local/officials-epoll-book-training-went-well/article_3eb0c8ae-4f64-11e9-8e66-13504dcbc691.html

SNIP
Every county in Kentucky is now preparing for its first election using what is known as EPoll books, which involves a device that resembles an iPad and brings the voter check-in system into the 21st century.

“Actually, when the trainer told them that they were no longer having to deal with those big books, the clerks applauded. I mean, it was hands in the air saying, ‘Hallelujah!’ so I think it was well-received,” Faulkner said of the activity that was attended not only by most of Calloway’s election clerks but clerks from several other area counties.
SNIP


The clerks are sold on them as a "convenience" completely ignoring the security vulnerabilities.

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Response to diva77 (Reply #104)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:42 AM

107. Tons of eslate which is no paper



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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:39 PM

4. Kicked with disgust for Republicans

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Response to secondwind (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

87. I've seen this damn movie before

and its getting really old. No matter what we do or how much money we raise, they still cheat. Then to add insult to injury, they have the nerve to accuse US of cheating. I suppose it is a tactic, accuse Democrats of cheating before Democrats figure out republicans are cheating. According to those statistics, they don't even try to be subtle.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #87)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:38 AM

115. You're not alone in this. The republicans have to stop this!

We have to stop them. Has the Biden campaign been told about this? Has Stacy Abrams been told? Can we get a lawsuit going ?

This is the same thing I've been saying happened in North Carolina.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #115)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:49 AM

118. I don't know

Everyone is focused on the republicans' bogus claims of Democratic voter fraud.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #118)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:05 AM

119. I say we start saying we want FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS of ELECTION fraud in Kentucky, NC,

Florida and Texas.

Let's see how many republicans start shitting their pants.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #119)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:12 AM

120. They'll probably find another distraction

like they always do.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:40 PM

6. It simply could mean that in Kentucky even those who are registered Democrats are actually

Republicans and vote for Republicans.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:42 PM

8. No, I don't think so.

Kentucky is owned by mitch.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:21 AM

110. As a former Kentuckian I think there is some truth to the generalization...

In Kentucky and perhaps other places in the south... You register to vote in the same party that your parents did but you actually vote for the people that your neighbors do.

Kentucky still has the old fashioned system of closed primaries where you can only vote within your own party in the primaries. But, their turnout during the primaries is typically between 15 and 20% (+/-) and double that in the general. So, that would suggest that party affiliation is not exactly top of mind. And, if you look back at the recent history of KY going back to 1955 there have been 12 Democratic governors and only 3 Republicans. The roots of the Democratic Party in KY do go deep... at least in name.

So yeah, this is an anomaly. But it never pays to believe in a conspiracy theory when there is a perfectly good stupid explanation that covers everything.

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Response to Josiesdad (Reply #110)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:47 AM

116. Very similar situation in PA

Closed primaries and lots of DINOs who simply haven't bothered to change their registration to reflect how they vote.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:03 PM

24. You see that a lot in Florida.

People registered as Democrats long ago, but they now regularly vote for Republicans. They just haven’t changed their old party affiliation.

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

90. That's one explanation. The other is election fraud.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #90)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:56 PM

91. I have little doubt that election fraud happens AS WELL.

-Laelth

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:08 PM

27. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!

When I was in HS back in Louisville, at an all-male Catholic HS, I had a US History teacher who said this to us:

"Register as a Democrat. Vote for the weakest Democrat in the Primary. Then vote Republican in November."


There's a lot of that back up there plus people who registered as Democrat waaaaay waaaay back but just never changed their registration and only vote in the general elections.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:43 PM

45. Yep, that is the way it is in Arkansas. Just about everyone is either registered D or optional.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:36 AM

99. Exactly LisaL

This sounds like a lot of the crap on the other side about having elections stolen.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:39 AM

124. Objectivity is ordinarily admirable. But at this stage,

I have to ask, are these ordinary times? Are our electoral experiences over the past 20 years or so ordinary?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:41 PM

7. I live in fayette county, Lexington, KY

My mail in ballot was "never received" according the the county clerk's office. I went to vote in person and no one offered me a provisional ballot, and I was turned away. My vote didn't count. Fuckers.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:57 PM

18. We Dems all need to know to *insist* on a provisional ballot if there's any question.

Because they don’t necessarily let us know at the moment when it matters. sorry you missed it, hopefully it wasn’t part of a statewide pattern!

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Response to JudyM (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:03 PM

23. I had forgotten about provisional ballots

I was frustrated, mad, and couldn't breathe, and wasn't thinking clearly. It wasn't until I got home that I remembered there was such a thing.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:24 PM

34. They should have informed you. If there had been a Dem poll watcher there they should've been

all over it with the election official. It’s a slick move to not mention the availability of provisionals.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:44 PM

47. I'm also in Lexington.

My son and I voted early at the Tates Creek Library. No lines, no problems and everyone was masked up.

Maybe your ballot was received and became part of the votes that weren't counted as stated in the OP. Moscow Mitch just seemed to phone his campaign in and won way too easily. I think something is up here.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

94. Provisionals should be issued on request.

Really? These people turned you away? Kentucky, huh?

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

96. did you report this to OUR VOTE?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:42 PM

9. I too am suspicious if Turtle is involved.



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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:43 PM

11. More likely ... that's just rural America

I was Dem party chair in a rural county in NC for 6 years the last decade. We had a 2-1 registration advantage D to R. A lot of D's in the county were really D-ixiecrats not D-emocrats. They might vote for some D's in state elections but almost always stuck to R's for federal offices.

Yeah, I wouldn't read too much into those numbers.

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Response to Persondem (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:07 PM

26. I'm originally from smaller town in Indiana.

If you want to get elected to a city office you better register as a Dem and run in the Dem primary. If you really want a vote to count for a local office you better vote in the Dem primary. But in a presidential election the city always votes Republican. I would add 'go figure', but easily 50 % of that Indiana city has roots in Kentucky.

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Response to Persondem (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:27 PM

67. Indeed the crazy lady in KY who refused to issue a marriage license to a gay couple...

...was a Democrat. Just a party registration holdover from the old days I guess. She switched to the republic party after the controversy.

I also wouldn’t read too much into this.

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Response to Persondem (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:36 PM

72. Dixiecrats

I volunteered to help a state house special election campaign in northern Florida. The results in some of the small, rural counties suggested that up to 70% of the registered Democrats voted for the Republican candidate.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:44 PM

12. I hope Texas will undergo similar scrutiny.

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Response to diva77 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:34 PM

84. we do not register by party in Texas so you can't really compare

Precinct chairs only have one way to find the Democrats in their precincts - folks who vote in Democratic Primaries. We know there are voters who vote for Democrats in General Elections and never go near a primary election. We also know there are Republicans who vote in Democratic primaries to try and get the weakest candidate elected (which never works) and vice versa.

Numbers like the OP just can't be pulled together in an open registration state.

Lots of voters who only vote in Presidential years and only vote the top line. Sorry Donald Jr that is perfectly legitimate and happens all the time. It is called undervoting and "both sides do it"

Fact remains that there is no point in fooling around with numbers in a state which is likely to go heavily in one direction or another.

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #84)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

93. interesting - thanx for the info

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:44 PM

13. Big time computer hack. C.f. South Carolina while you're at it.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:46 PM

14. I recall my uncle from Owensboro, KY, a Republican registering as a Democrat

He bragged that he and all his friends from church, his lodge, and the better business bureau all were registered Democrats in order to vote poor candidates onto the slate for the Democrats. To me it seemed that they had been doing this for a long time and would continue.

This was in the late 60s if I recall correctly. He is no longer living.

I wonder if this still goes on.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:00 PM

21. .



There are no depths to which rethugs will not sink.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:21 PM

33. No doubt

that's a big reason why McConnell has kept his seat for so long.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:37 PM

86. I suspect so. Interesting thing about Ballard County 2160 voters did not vote.

I went to college in Owensboro in the 1960s so I am familiar with it

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:46 PM

15. Whoa....

Yes, very odd. And it certainly pisses me off, especially with all the rabble rousing rethugs are doing.

I think the Dems should investigate and file a lawsuit.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:47 PM

16. I posted this in another thread here

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:39 PM

43. My first thought on Election Night was how could MoscowMitch be so unpopular

 

In opinion polls, but rout McGrath. Polling can be off by the margin of error, but this swing deserves a further investigation.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:56 PM

17. vote flipping my machine

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:59 PM

19. Perhaps the Biden campaign should take Kentucky to court?

It sounds like election fraud? As unpopular as Mitch was, many expected the race to be much closer.

Maybe there was a reason?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:49 PM

55. I've never met anyone (literally) that likes Moscow Mitch.

They hate him in Louisville and especially in Lexington (where I live). Everyone I know personally cannot stand him.

Since R's are the masters of projection it wouldn't surprise me at all if Mitch had some fixing done.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:00 PM

20. How about Independents

Just sayin’

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:02 PM

22. Eastern Kentucky used to be heavily Unionized.

Just like W Vi.

Now, with coal moribund and jobs scarce, they've turned against the party that was allied with their Union.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:54 PM

58. They fall prey to every huckster and con that comes along, it seems...

From the start of the coal mines, near the beginning of last century, in the 1900's.

Even the British were invested in Eastern Kentucky in the early 1900's. They wanted the coke that was made from a special type of coal. It was better in their steel mills.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:05 PM

25. K&R



Also, he has a 13% approval rating. And Moscow Mitch won by about 20 percentage points? Really?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:13 PM

28. Recount! Investigate!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:37 PM

42. Yes. Investigate, damn it.

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Response to TryLogic (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:28 PM

82. Poetic justice if MM booted out!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:17 PM

29. Republicans know we won't do that because we don't want to open up

an audit in battleground states.

If this goes unchallenged i wonder if Mitch is holding something over somebody's head?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:18 PM

30. They cheat fair and square though, ask one.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:20 PM

31. Soooo, maybe the polls weren't wrong after all.

It's easy to create voters in rural counties. No one checks.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:31 PM

38. +1, Exactly what I think happened in Florida 2016 those rural counties came in REALLY strong for DT

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:36 PM

73. And this

A lot of people thought McConnell would get creamed, and yet, he won in a landslide?????? Same with Graham and Collins……..

If this checks out, McConnell, Graham, Susan Collins, and other Senate elections should be investigated thoroughly.

My opinion all along was that the Senate Races were far far more important to win than the Presidential election….
Without Republican Control of the Senate continuing, Trump was a goner whether he won the election or not…
It would be far more important to hack, rig, and control the Senate votes, than the Presidential Election.
If Russia helped with screwing up the votes, they could just as easily twist the Senate Voting in each state………along with the presidential voting in each state…...
Of course with the Repubs making national news with their gripes about less important races, they would divert the attention away from the states they hacked. In addition, this would explain why they are only making such ruckus about the mail in votes being tampered with, and not question the voting machines across the nation being tampered with?????…….

Like I said, if it turns out to be true, it makes perfect sense. Unless, of course, they get caught…..

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:52 PM

89. this makes the most sense

I think you have something.

I think there are enough Democratic internet sleuths that this thing could be solved. Even calling the voters to see how they indeed voted.

I wouldn't wait for the Democratic party to do anything. They have their hands full just trying to straighten out the Dog-awful mess trump created over the past 4 years. However, I think it would be good to have a contact in the party and keep them updated.

Do all of these:

If this checks out, McConnell, Graham, Susan Collins, and other Senate elections should be investigated thoroughly.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:20 PM

32. Kim Davis was a registered Democrat. This isn't unusual for the south

where people never changed registration but have been regularly voting Republican.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:27 PM

35. everyone votes Republican...got it.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:32 PM

83. hahah

yeah, I think I've read enough about that.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:28 PM

36. K&R

Me dost think they projecteth too much...
The gop need to turn to ashes for their crimes, if proven to have cheated...as most of us have probably suspected for the last 20+ years.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:29 PM

37. "What happened to the other 325,131🤔" ... yep

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:35 PM

39. This is the kind of tinfoil nuttery Trump has been engaging in for a week.

We are better than this.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:43 PM

46. So you don't think the numbers are strange enough for a inquiry?

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Response to OneBro (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:52 PM

57. I do not

What I see is some Twitter rando looking at a table of data, and applying their own bias to why the data is what it is.

This is no different than the right-wing screeching about "more votes than voters" in WI, "how can 75% of the absentees be for Biden" in PA, and "there's no possible way Biden won the military vote in GA".

Despite our love for shows from The X-Files to Stranger Things, the world really isn't as complicated or double- and triple-twisted as we'd like to imagine.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:00 AM

108. Lots of paperless voting machines so no way to check

Except examine the software which is illegal

At best ky has a trust me system and the people programing the machines donate to repubs

In other democracies these machines are illegal because of there non transparent nature

We deserve election results we can all trust like hand counted paper ballots, Colorado does it and they had no problems and were done early election night

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:36 PM

40. T'aint a surprise at all. LibTardDems was trying to pull a fast one.... Take the Republican votes

from the first county. Switch them from the county they ain't needed, 'cause we got enough. Then take the Dem votes .... You. know, it happens all the time. Do it right, and nobody knows from nuthin'.

--- this would'a been alll good, until Joey Bobby Beau fucked it up for us and switched the wrong buttons in the machines.


Fuckin' asshole. Last time he's gettin' his $50 next 'lekchin.











It's ok, Agnes. It was actually us switchin' the buttons, not the LTD's.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #40)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:14 PM

132. every county manages its own elections, many have different equipment than

the one next door. I am not sure a county would want to swap out the entire ballot for one reason: the downballot races for state legislatures, county commissioners, etc would be different. In our county it could even be a Congressional seat; we have 4 districts and they all cross county lines. Not to mention the voter registrations would be invalid.

I know we could not do it here. When you are given your log in code to our selection machine, it is based on your voter registration. We bar code that info, scan it to give the access code. The voter makes choices, checks and rechecks if they feel they need to, and when satisfied pushes the print button. After that printout is completed, it goes to the scanner.

When the next voter comes to the screen, they have a new access code which lets the voter access the ballot for their voter registration information.

The selection machine has amnesia once that ballot is printed.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:37 PM

41. Rather than worry about the verity of the claim - who does THAT anymore

Let's just tally up some of these "inconsistencies" that favor the GOP and meet them head-on every time they point out a statistical anomaly and use it as a basis to throw out the election results.

Both sides do it, you know. Blah, blah, blah. It's all so much bullshit and I can't sleep anymore.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:42 PM

44. This might be the thread of the century!

It would be absofuckinglutely sweet to have the Republican system of voter fraud exposed as a result of Mitch McConnell's toxic existence.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:45 PM

48. ⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:45 PM

49. These numbers are completely unsurprising and not suspicious

Registered Democrats have far outnumbered registered Republicans in Ballard County for as long as anyone can remember (you can look up the registration statistics online). But Ballard voters long ago abandoned the Democratic Party, even if they didn't bother to change their registration.

In 2018, the Democratic candidate for Congress in the first district got only 269 votes in Ballard. In 2016, Hillary got only 816 votes in Ballard.

Statewide registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans by 500,000. But that isn't indicative of how Kentuckians vote.

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Response to onenote (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:59 PM

61. However, let Moscow's Bitch McConnell defend them instead of enabling trump.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:46 PM

51. K & R!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:46 PM

52. The Biden campaign won't be challenging the result...

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:47 PM

53. Where are these numbers coming from?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:18 PM

65. They're coming from someone who doesn't understand that registration in KY is meaningless

when it comes to how people vote.

Twenty two years ago, there were over 5200 registered Democrats and only 359 registered Republicans in Ballard Co. Even then, however, the number of votes cast for Clinton was half the total number of registered Democrats and the number of votes for Bush was three times the number of registered republicans. Over time those numbers have shifted, with the number of registered republicans increasing and the number of of registered Democrats declining. But the changes were relatively incremental, primarily as first time registrants picked the republican party while voters who were already registered didn't bother to re-register just to change their party affiliation.

The numbers, going back a couple of decades, are posted online.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:48 PM

54. Lets just let Mitch and his buddies in Kentucky sort this out

I'm sure they will get to the bottom this tout de suite

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:52 PM

56. KNR

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:55 PM

59. Massive cheating by repiggies.

Fuck the repiggies.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:55 PM

60. The machines

I don't understand why people trust the computerized voting machines and vote counting machines to secretly, accurately count our votes. The exit polls indicate the counting skews towards Trump. We are one of the very few "democracies" who do not have publicly observable hand counting of paper ballots.

https://tdmsresearch.com/2020/11/04/2020-presidential-election-table/

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Response to annielion (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:32 AM

114. I've never trusted the machines...

...but in my county, there are no other options. You either use the machine or you don't vote.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:10 PM

62. McGrath should

insist on an investigation as well as the Democratic Party.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:12 PM

63. A more legitimate example of "substantial allegations" than the crap Bill Barr is trying to pull

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:13 PM

64. Same as in Republican Ohio in 2004

There was some precinct with 600 registered voters, and the voting machine gave Bush 3000 votes there. Without further investigation, or examining ANY other machine, the Ohio Republicans subtracted 2400 votes from Bush's margin of "victory," and the refused to investigate any further.

This is who they are, this is what they do. And then they have the nerve to call themselves patriots.

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Response to DFW (Reply #64)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:55 PM

135. Actually one of the election servers

Changed its IP address at 1 am. Meaning it was taken offline and another was set to transmit totals. I read about this in 2004 and my IT background made the hair on my neck stand up.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:24 PM

66. I'm not surprised. Same as 2016.

That’s why they are so upset about Biden. It wasn’t supposed to go that way.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:28 PM

68. OMG!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:28 PM

69. It does seem odd that Dems would

vote for the fucking fascist.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:28 PM

70. Mitch has long been rumored to cheat. I hope this one really gets investigated.

He’s a crook, and his approval ratings in KY have always been low, yet he wins. Over and over. Maybe it’s finally time for someone to do a deep dive into his votes.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:30 PM

71. I've been saying for days...

...these Senate results stink to high heaven. Mitch McConnell is loving that the nonsense with Trump is deflecting any analysis of how Republicans once again managed to run the table despite being down in the polls in several states, including a state Biden handily won (Maine) and a state where Democrats won THREE statewide offices, but Cunnigham lost to Tillis by a wide margin. This doesn't pass the smell test, and this is the third cycle in a row what some questionable Senate results.

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Response to appmanga (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:36 PM

85. I wonder third cycle in a row what some questionable Senate results.

regarding this...

third cycle in a row what some questionable Senate results.


if past elections can be investigate. Probably not, but it would be worth an inquiry.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:39 PM

74. Kentucky has many Dems who are conservative, especially on social issues.

Also, as evil as he is, moscow mitch is a Kentucky icon who brings home the bacon.
Wouldn't be surprised at verified instances of voter obstruction and election fraud,
but he could probably do a Kentucky version of shooting someone on a street and
not only get away with it but get reelected as well.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:58 PM

75. I got a feeling more and more of this is going to come out in several States

I'd like to see them do a recount of Wisconsin cuz I think folks were flipped there and in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Ohio and Florida

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:02 PM

76. I posted this on Amy McGrath's Facebook wall.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:20 AM

98. I sent her an email.

Although I'm sure she's already aware.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:10 PM

78. It's that nearly half of the absentee ballots weren't returned

that seems really odd to me.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:21 PM

79. Things seem slippery in KY. Someone there should sue.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:25 PM

80. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee investigate. I would assist in any way I can!

I don't believe they kept their seats! They cheated but kicked trump under the bus!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:28 PM

81. K&R. Broadcast loudly, file lawsuits and call for investigations.


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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

88. Kim Davis was a Democrat when she blocked the marriage licences

so I can easily see Democrats not voting for Biden in those small KY counties.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:56 PM

92. And this ladies and gentlemen is one of the reasons why we always have to beat them

with overwhelming numbers. But even with that, if they're going to falsify numbers and not count mail-in ballots it's almost impossible to beat.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

95. K&R

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:11 AM

97. voting machine map

Earlier I thought there was a graphic that showed how the voting profile of Kentucky changed from Blue to Red around 2003 when the voting systems were rolled out. I don't see that now.

Did it get removed, or did I see it on another thread please?

Help?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:00 AM

101. K&R

Hope it pans out to show WHO really is cheating out there.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:11 AM

102. You're missing a big part of the picture

Nearly half the voters in the general election are independent - unaffiliated with either party. Independent voters are always the big question mark. They don't have to vote at all, or if they do vote, it doesn't have to be for either D or R candidates. Sometimes they write-in their uncle or some other stupid name.

If they are registered in the Democratic Party, they don't have to vote for the Dem. candidate in the general election, and that's also true for voters who are registered Republican. In a state like Kentucky, a certain number of Repukes will register as Dems just so they can vote in the Dem. primary. The goal is to mess up our primary if they can, or at least skew the results way off. There was never any intention of voting D in the general election, only in the primary, for rat-fucking reasons.

I'm sure Amy McGrath is well aware of the realities of Kentucky voters. This happens in every red state, and we've even seen bad-faith behavior like this in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and other swing states. It's not "voter fraud" like Chump is screaming about, it's rat-fucking the primaries.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:12 AM

103. Repukes are good at electoral fraud.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:29 AM

105. T he acts what happened in Antrim, Michigan

In the Antrim Michigan case, the clerk saw a similar result- and that’s when they figured out the Antrim data was wrong- because they hadn’t run a software update that was required and released a week before the vote.

Is this the same thing? Compare the 2020 result/ ratios to the 2016 and 2018 results. Are they similar? If not, look for a software update failure.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:52 AM

106. Sorry, everyone is too busy disproving all these BS claims Rs are making

to look into R election fraud. Which is, in the R program, a feature, not a bug.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #106)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:47 AM

117. Yeah, sounds rather intentional

doesn't it. Bombard the media with threats of Democratic cheating so that no one catches them doing it. Meanwhile, in response to the allegations of Democratic voter fraud, we get all these assurances that our election was free and fair across the country. So if Democrats go after republicans now, it just sounds like petty retaliation.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #117)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:36 AM

123. Right!:Rs are experts at deception. They do it in ways

that it's hard for those they lie about to fight back. So frustrating!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #123)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:49 AM

126. They don't know how to govern or legislate,

but they sure are masters at deception and fraud.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:16 AM

109. Racists will do anything, no matter how heinous, to preserve white supremacy.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:32 AM

113. FYI

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:59 AM

121. K&R nt

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:13 AM

122. WTF?1 You have to wonder if this isn't a nationwide problem.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:42 AM

125. I'll bet most of us suspected this all along.

I think Putin gave up on Donald a long time ago. He's a coward and a loser and Putin knows it now. I'm willing to bet he put his trolls to work to keep the Senate in Republican hands. Those damn voting machines are made by companies owned by Rethugs. No doubt in my mind vote switching was going on.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:28 PM

127. Tragically, none of this comes as a surprise.

The same kind of fuckery was all over Florida in 2000, and in Ohio in 2004.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:42 PM

128. Voting machines

need to be eliminated and outlawed. Return to the paper ballot.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:54 PM

129. Just Dixiecrats

From Kentucky to the panhandle, just old-school racists who started voting Republican when Nixon did his "Southern Strategy".

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:43 PM

130. Mitch knew the fix was in

You could see it on his face during the debate with Amy.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:09 PM

131. Two options. Either they rigged the election or last minute voters that

did not register decided to vote.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:37 PM

133. Touch screen voting machines?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:45 PM

134. Just a little "flip the votes" hokey-pokey, like 2004...

Lots of dem-leading districts/states miraculously went for
GWB, instead of Kerry. I hope this is investigated. Terrible!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:36 PM

136. Does Kentucky have paperless e voting?

Paperless e voting has been responsible for more "miracles" than all the Catholic saints combined.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:37 PM

137. I was telling my wife this morining...

Everything Agent Orange accuses others of doing he has done himself...

Which would speak badly for those election results. Did 70 million people really vote to keep this POS?

Evidence needs to trickle in. If I cheated like hell and still lost, I would be pissed as hell!!!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:16 PM

140. Kick

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