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In It to Win It

(8,143 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:01 PM Nov 2020

What scares me that Trump could have been re-elected had he not been such a massive dick

On Election night, I didn’t want to go to bed. I wanted to be ready and prepared in the event that Trump won a 2nd term. I had a sort of PTSD from 2016. I went to bed in 2016 only to wake up at 3am to the CNN chyron “CLINTON CONCEDES TO TRUMP.”

That chyron haunted me all the way to the day after Election Day as I went to bed truthfully scared and anxious that I will wake up to another CNN chyron announcing Trump had been re-election. I didn’t sleep that well and I was shaking in anxiety thinking about waking up to “BIDEN CONCEDES TO TRUMP.”

This election was a squeaker. Despite running a shit show for the last 4 years, this man was almost re-elected. Their turnout game was good. They gave us a legitimate run for our money. They brought a red wave of support, although our wave was a little bigger (mic drop).

It boggles me that had Donald Trump been less of a massive dick, he may have won. It terrifies me that people in real positions of power will model their behavior after him -current and future governors, senators, congresspersons, states legislators, etc-. People will look at that and say even if for a little while, you can be a whiny vindictive bitch and win power.

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In It to Win It

(8,143 posts)
4. That's true! But I won't deny that Trump has come through for Republicans
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:12 PM
Nov 2020

He probably really doesn’t give a shit about causes or policy but he’s been a really good useful idiot for them. He’s delivered tax cuts, judges, less regulations... you know, the typical Republican bullshit they claim creates more jobs when it’s really for their wealthy donors.

He didn’t followed through on everything but he followed through on enough for the to give him their support, and then increase it.

I don’t think his support increased because he was a massive dick. I think he won with bare minimum because he was a massive dick (and also he was the horse they were stuck with)... but I think his base support is because he’s a dick and the increased support is because he was a useful idiot.

Phoenix61

(16,954 posts)
2. Yep, if he had listened to the experts
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:06 PM
Nov 2020

he would have won. But if he could have done that he wouldn’t who he is.

Silent3

(15,018 posts)
5. He could have done much better with COVID, and still have done it in a dickish way...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:12 PM
Nov 2020

...that would appeal to his supporters, so yes, he really fucked this up for himself.

It's a shame this might mean that only the price of 200,000+ lives lost is buying us freedom from Trump.

In It to Win It

(8,143 posts)
9. I think we both agree that Trump doesn't really want the job, he likes the prestige and title
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

and groveling fans that comes with being President.

He doesn’t really want to do the work. Had Trump been his usual dick self AND been good at handling COVID, he would have won re-election. COVID showed that he doesn’t want the downsides of being POTUS.

But being a dick is exactly what stopped him from handling COVID in an effective way.

Silent3

(15,018 posts)
13. Hell, he could have deligated better COVID response to someone else, barely lifting a finger
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

But he took COVID as a personal affront, as life being unfair to poor little him, and reacted accordingly.

In It to Win It

(8,143 posts)
16. He even flip-flopped on delegating
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:27 PM
Nov 2020

He give it to Mike Pence, who I assume is a slightly more competent person, but unfortunately, Pence was getting too much attention with his daily press briefing and Trump figured that he should be the one getting all that attention because “I’m the President and it’s my show. No one gets to be in the spotlight but me.”

Submariner

(12,485 posts)
6. COVID was almost a blessing in disguise
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:14 PM
Nov 2020

It showed his incompetence in the extreme, and even more lives would have been lost if he continued this herd death sentence madness.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
7. I maintain that if there had been no COVID, he WOULD have been re-elected.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:16 PM
Nov 2020

I have no doubt of that. It's a sad state of affairs.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
8. What we said at home. If he had made any effort at all on covid it might have been
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

a big win for trump . Scary the way he operates and what he stands for is even close to a winning strategy in the US

In It to Win It

(8,143 posts)
14. Yes! Had he actually been effective in handling COVID, he would have been cruising to re-election
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:23 PM
Nov 2020

But being the massive dick that he is, he couldn’t bring himself to care enough. He couldn’t bring himself to swallow his pride and actually use materials and strategies two previous administrations left behind to deal with an issue like COVID.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
15. Yes, it is really unnerving
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:25 PM
Nov 2020

how much support he's gotten considering what a horrible job he's done. It also occurred to me that if things hadn't been as bad as they are regarding the pandemic, unemployment, and the economy, this monster could have won a 2nd term. And that would be no matter who Democrats nominated.

We have some truly serious problems in this country and they won't be fixed easily or quickly. It took a long time to create them, they won't go away because of one or even two elections.

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