Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:20 AM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
Social Responsibility is NOT Socialism
Use this retort when “socialism” is tossed in your face.
Ask the person: Is shackling students with life-long debt socially responsible? Is letting people go hungry socially responsible? Is jailing the mentally ill in for-profit prisons socially responsible? Is paying teachers less than a living wage socially responsible! Homeless vets? Hungry elderly? A mans wage unable to support his family! Cold blooded murder of black brothers & sisters? Little to no mental health services available? Unsafe infrastructure? Little investment in renewable energy? The list is long. Maybe try finding the persons hot button. Got grandkids? Yes? Want them to have clean air? Water? Safe food? Would that be socialism or social Responsibility? It’s time for America to embrace Social Responsibility! Social Responsibility improves life for everyone! It reduces crime! It creates innovation! So the next time someone tosses socialism in your face, whip out the questions and make the point. Social Responsibility is a win win for all
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OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | OP |
Ohiogal | Nov 2020 | #1 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2020 | #2 | |
OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | #4 | |
PTWB | Nov 2020 | #11 | |
OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | #15 | |
I_UndergroundPanther | Nov 2020 | #3 | |
Mystery sage | Nov 2020 | #5 | |
OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | #8 | |
beachbumbob | Nov 2020 | #6 | |
OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | #7 | |
beachbumbob | Nov 2020 | #9 | |
OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | #16 | |
OnDoutside | Nov 2020 | #12 | |
PTWB | Nov 2020 | #14 | |
OhNo-Really | Nov 2020 | #17 | |
Thomas Hurt | Nov 2020 | #10 | |
Progressive Jones | Nov 2020 | #13 |
Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:24 AM
Ohiogal (27,825 posts)
1. All good arguments
But wasted on the selfish, entitled crowd.
My sibling says the two things she hates hearing the most are “pay your fair share” and “for the common good.” ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:25 AM
Demsrule86 (66,306 posts)
2. No one should ever use the word socialism...or anything close if we want to win.
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:31 AM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
4. This is the "other side"'retort
When we mention doing good things
Our retort is Social Responsibility |
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:56 AM
PTWB (4,131 posts)
11. Socialism is a failed branding.
But social programs are highly popular individually and should be championed - not dismissed - by the center of our party.
Defund the Police? Horrible branding. The goal is not to defund the police. Defunding the Police conjures images of lawlessness and firing police officers. The goal is to allocate resources to mental healthcare and impoverished communities to greatly reduce the number of negative interactions with the police in the first place. |
Response to PTWB (Reply #11)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:27 PM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
15. I'm guessing the other side launched "defund the police "
Joe kept saying “No, the department’s need more funding for social workers etc”
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Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:25 AM
I_UndergroundPanther (11,812 posts)
3. Yesss!
And if Biden does fireside chats with the people liberal decisions could get more traction by wording like this.
Somebody suggest this to Biden. |
Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mystery sage (576 posts)
5. Cubans be like...
Social.....Socialism yuck
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Response to Mystery sage (Reply #5)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 AM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
8. Ok call it just Responsible decisions
Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:37 AM
beachbumbob (9,263 posts)
6. A significant portion of Americans could care less about any of this
Response to beachbumbob (Reply #6)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:44 AM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
7. I refuse to believe they want any of the above
For their kids & grandkids.
To have them see beyond their nose is key |
Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:49 AM
beachbumbob (9,263 posts)
9. I guess you don't know many rabid rightwing ideologues.
Response to beachbumbob (Reply #9)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:29 PM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
16. I really don't 🤷🏻♀️ But I'm a bit of a recluse
I’ve seen my share of rudeness though.
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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:00 PM
OnDoutside (19,755 posts)
12. They're cool with Socialism for themselves, it's just they don't want it for anyone else.
Response to beachbumbob (Reply #6)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:03 PM
PTWB (4,131 posts)
14. And our most progressive programs poll incredibly well with the vast majority of the country.
It's all about branding and marketing them.
If our moderates successfully silence the progressive wing of the Democratic Party we'll be doomed to a future where our country continues drifting rightward. |
Response to PTWB (Reply #14)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:30 PM
OhNo-Really (3,925 posts)
17. I agree
We need effective roll out campaigns. Lincoln project?
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Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:52 AM
Thomas Hurt (13,890 posts)
10. everything in modern American conservatism is based on individualism...
anything that smells of social, cooperation, etc. offends the christofascists.
To them social responsibility is a imposition on them. |
Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:01 PM
Progressive Jones (6,011 posts)
13. The majority of those railing against "socialism"
haven't a clue what socialism actually is. |