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Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:05 PM

All those things that were "unwritten" rules should now be written.

Spell it out since the emoluments clause is apparently too vague to be enforced.

You must show your taxes, you may not run a business, you may not profit from the office, you must comply with oversight and subpoenas and so on.

All those gentlemanís agreements and honor system norms that have been taken for granted all these years must now be spelled out definitively. We can never take the chance that a person like this ever takes office again.

What else should be added to the list?

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Reply All those things that were "unwritten" rules should now be written. (Original post)
BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2020 OP
Lokee11 Nov 2020 #1
BComplex Nov 2020 #8
exboyfil Nov 2020 #2
KS Toronado Nov 2020 #18
BKDem Nov 2020 #3
soothsayer Nov 2020 #4
Newest Reality Nov 2020 #5
BComplex Nov 2020 #12
nature-lover Nov 2020 #6
mindfulNJ Nov 2020 #7
gopiscrap Nov 2020 #9
Newest Reality Nov 2020 #19
unitedwethrive Nov 2020 #10
sarisataka Nov 2020 #23
NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #11
sarisataka Nov 2020 #22
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #13
GopherGal Nov 2020 #14
BComplex Nov 2020 #16
BKDem Nov 2020 #15
SheltieLover Nov 2020 #17
unblock Nov 2020 #20
RazzleCat Nov 2020 #21

Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:06 PM

1. Yes

Codify everything!

FDT!

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Response to Lokee11 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:09 PM

8. True!

This can never be allowed to happen again. And we need to set out exactly who arrests them, and at what point the perps are to be arrested and jailed for failing to comply. Mnuchin should be arrested third, behind trump and barr.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:07 PM

2. McConnell too

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:16 PM

18. I'd love to see Biden's DOJ go after Moscow Mitch night & day until they jail him.

Start with Russian campaign money laundering.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:07 PM

3. We can never again just assume the elected President is a person of good character.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:08 PM

4. Yep

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:08 PM

5. The power to pardon...

The power to pardon is also sweeping and vague. It leaves open the self-pardon as a potential.

Now, should a rogue President who has a list of crimes behind him be able to get completely off the hook? What kind of precedent does that set for another criminal president? Won't that be both tempting and empowering?

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:11 PM

12. The pardon should NEVER apply to anyone who might be complicit in a crime that

helps the person doing the pardon. That should apply to governors, as well. You shouldn't be able to pardon people helping you to commit a crime for your benefit.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:08 PM

6. Agreed. There is no honor in this administration

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:09 PM

7. Absolutely.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:09 PM

9. you must concede with in 24 hrs after all recounts and your

opponent reaches 270 electoral votes

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:17 PM

19. That's not necessary, IMHO.

From what I understand, conceding is just a formality and makes no real difference other than to display good sportsmanship, so to speak. It is also a sign to the people regarding the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump is by no means a good sport.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:10 PM

10. Don't we need the senate to do most of this?

Thereís only so much they can be done by executive order in terms of codifying law.

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Response to unitedwethrive (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:49 PM

23. Many would need not only the Senate

But also an Amendment

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:10 PM

11. No Supreme Court vacancies filled in an election year

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Response to NameAlreadyTaken (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:47 PM

22. Why not instead say

Any nominee not acted on within 60 days or voted within 90 days is presumed to be approved by the Senate.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:11 PM

13. YES! Republicons and tRumpissers need guidance. Add ELECTORAL REFORM, should be top priority. . nt

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:11 PM

14. One thing to leave OFF the list

That "the sitting president can't be indicted" nonsense has to be disavowed completely. Perhaps as part of whatever vehicle is created to enable enforcement of the emoluments clause.

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Response to GopherGal (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:12 PM

16. Absolutely.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:11 PM

15. The DOJ finding that a sitting President cannot be indicted must be withdrawn.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:15 PM

17. Agreed!

Necessary imo.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:19 PM

20. i don't think the emoluments clause is too vague to be enforced.

i'm not sure that there's any federal law that applies to the president, so i don't think he can be charged with anything criminal.

but i think it's clear from the constitution alone that any foreign emoluments donnie took don't belong to him, so the federal government should be able to seize and such funds.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:32 PM

21. Yes, you said it so right

I have tried to put on finger on this for a long time. I even think its more important than going after Trump (assuming that NY does the job, not excusing a full investigation on all of his enablers). I can honestly believe that even republicans could agree to this.

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