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Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:08 AM

This guy says what I feel

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/11/05/half-america-supports-donald-trump-heartbreaking-column/6165245002/d

Trump's huge vote total breaks my heart. I recognize this America and I wish I did not.
The most dangerous implication of this election is that millions accept a fictitious world created by an autocrat and marketed by Fox News.
Michael J. Stern
Opinion columnist

This is going to be a scorched earth column, so buckle up.

Yes, former Vice President Joe Biden may squeak out a victory. But even if he does, we’ve been slapped with the heartbreaking reality that nearly half our country voted for President Donald Trump after spending four years watching him spew unbridled bigotry, engage in blatant corruption, and tell so many lies you’d need a magnifying glass to read the Washington Post's running list of false and misleading claims.

My best friend just called in disgust to say he did not recognize this country. Unfortunately, I do. It’s the same country that built itself largely on the backs of slaves who had their most basic human rights stolen and whose descendants, more than 150 years after emancipation, still carry the weight of the chains that held them down.

It’s the same country that closed its eyes to Matthew Shepard, beaten and broken and tied to a fence in rural Wyoming, where he was left to die … because he was gay.

And it’s the same country where you can see countless cell phone videos of people telling Latino Americans to speak English or "stay in Mexico" or “go back" to where they came from.
Our better and worse angels

True, slightly more than half the country voted to repudiate Trump. But that’s little consolation because many of those who chose Trump did not do so out of a simple difference of political opinion on which reasonable minds can differ. We can tease out each strand of the strangle knot, but in the end this election was a contest between our better and worse angels.

We were always imperfect but America was great, in part, because of what we aspired to be: “Land of the free,” where hard work and equality meant everyone had a shot at earning a piece of the pie. We were born a mosaic of diversity and we celebrated it.

But that’s not what some in Trump’s America want to see when they look through the window of history. They want to see their own reflection. And despite Trump’s success in leading a 67-million-person chorus of “Make America Great Again,” it’s just a TV jingle.
Protest in Philadelphia on Nov. 4, 2020.

None of the policies enacted under the Trump-branded theme song have done anything to actually make America great. Tax cuts for the wealthiest,fighting the promise of universal health care, lethal mismanagement of a pandemic, use of the Justice Department for political gain and a personal financial windfall — these are the cornerstones of a presidency best characterized by golf and failure. While half of us were repelled, the other half voted for more.

Face up to it, Democrats: We're a center left democracy hijacked by Trump and Republicans

People need to stop acting perplexed about how the polls could be so wrong. How they could show Biden up by 7 points in Michigan and still end up with a race that is almost evenly split. I never again want to hear the phrase “margin of error.” Trump knows what happened and most of us do too, if we’re willing to say it out loud.

A lot of people are buying the bigotry and division that Trump is selling — they just don’t want their family, friends, and neighbors to know it, so they don’t tell the pollsters. They’re scarfing down a Big Mac in their car, in the dark corner of a McDonald’s parking lot, before heading home and pretending to enjoy a plate of baked chicken and broccoli.
Fictitious world marketed by Fox News

Perhaps the most dangerous implication of this election is the willingness of millions of Americans to reject unpleasant realities and accept a fictitious world created by an autocrat and marketed by co-conspirator Fox News. They don’t want to believe that almost a quarter-million people just like them could be alive one minute and body bagged the next. And so, they choose to believe Trump’s “rounding the corner” announcement claiming he’s conquered the coronavirus pandemic even as the infection rate is hitting record highs — even as my partner called me two hours ago to say he’s got a fever, has been vomiting, and is too sick to stay at the hospital where he works.

Hard 2020 lessonsemocrats counted on money and Hispanic voters to deliver a blue wave. They didn't.

If things were not bad enough, Trump pronounced Tuesday night that he’d won the election and demanded an end to vote counting in states where he is ahead, while simultaneously insisting that the count continue in states where he is trailing. Trump then threatened to take his plan to steal the election to the Supreme Court, where he appointed a third of the judges and expects a warm reception. He's already filed lawsuits in Michigan and Pennsylvania (to stop the vote count), demanded a recount in Wisconsin and "claimed" to have won several states before they were decided.

I can’t believe we’re here again. I can’t believe that nearly half my fellow Americans have reelected a man so singularly focused on satisfying himself, he’d bite his mother’s breast if sweeter milk caught his eye.

When all is said and done, Trump may be defeated in a close call. But I fear Trumpism, and the ugliness it reflects, are here to stay.

Michael J. Stern, a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors, was a federal prosecutor for 25 years in Detroit and Los Angeles. Follow him on Twitter: @MichaelJStern1

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Reply This guy says what I feel (Original post)
mdbl Nov 5 OP
Skittles Nov 5 #1
yuiyoshida Nov 5 #8
pazzyanne Nov 5 #26
Skittles Nov 5 #35
bdamomma Nov 5 #2
mtnsnake Nov 5 #7
pazzyanne Nov 5 #28
Ferrets are Cool Nov 5 #23
bdamomma Nov 5 #24
BootinUp Nov 5 #3
BSdetect Nov 5 #4
EndlessWire Nov 5 #9
BSdetect Nov 5 #13
EndlessWire Nov 5 #20
LaMouffette Nov 5 #27
bdamomma Nov 5 #10
Fyrefox Nov 5 #5
gab13by13 Nov 5 #6
bdamomma Nov 5 #11
madaboutharry Nov 5 #12
gab13by13 Nov 5 #18
gab13by13 Nov 5 #19
Jetheels Nov 5 #25
Pacifist Patriot Nov 5 #31
dss Nov 5 #14
uponit7771 Nov 5 #16
DesertRat Nov 5 #36
lapucelle Nov 5 #37
uponit7771 Nov 5 #15
LeftishBrit Nov 5 #17
UCmeNdc Nov 5 #21
wendyb-NC Nov 5 #22
hkp11 Nov 5 #29
NJCher Nov 5 #30
Pacifist Patriot Nov 5 #32
Malmsy Nov 5 #38
niyad Nov 5 #33
Poiuyt Nov 5 #34

Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:16 AM

1. excellent analysis

yes indeed

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:59 AM

8. and really sad

considering the state of our nation.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:35 AM

26. + 1 nt

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:38 PM

35. it is indeed

I read today that a police captain in Alabama said those of us who voted for Biden should be "lined up and shot for treason." It occurs to me that after witnessing Trump and his sick cult fans, I will never again wonder how the Holocaust could have happened. Nope.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:21 AM

2. Propaganda

for 4 years can be very toxic, these cult members need mental health sessions. Really

tRump's cult that is all it is.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:53 AM

7. 100% spot on

There are those cult members you refer to, and then there are all of those who simply pull the lever for Trump so they can get that extra couple of dollars come tax time. They don't realize by enabling Trump they are just as evil as he is.

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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:41 AM

28. What they don't realize is that there is a sundown in that tax bill.

The sundown date is for middle and lower class and expires 2024, (after tRump's two terms are over). Middle and lower taxes go up, but not upper class cuts. We are uneducated voters for the most part. People are use to accepting what they are spoonfed. They don't take the time to look deeper at what they are being handed. The title is all they want to read.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:24 AM

23. Not 4 years. Over 30 years of propaganda spread by HATE radio and

Faux News.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:28 AM

24. very true

I stand corrected. Many years of brainwashing, very toxic to those who don't believe in facts and truth.

For myself, I could not function like that.


Very sad.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:37 AM

3. Best i got: It could be worse, lol. nt

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:47 AM

4. The trump lovers are angry about being left behind economically and

that has been exploited by the repugs into hatred

They have been invited to blame the poorest migrants for their own financial problems.

Imaginary stuff such as "they are taking our jobs".

Then there is the religious mob who are easily aroused into suppressing others.

Bigotry and racism are never far below the surface in this society, and most others.

Voting against your own interests is what our main obstacle seems to be.

The repugs want to exploit ignorance.







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Response to BSdetect (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:03 AM

9. It's their own damned fault!

HILLARY offered a solution that was rejected by people out of work by the failing coal industry. RETRAINING. For hundreds of years people who can't work in one business have reinvented themselves by retraining to another line of work.

But, these people are elitist. Their people have always been coal miners, so by G-d, they will not give it up! Well, suck it up, sugar cookie, because life marches on! When someone offers you training in something that might feed your family, be brave and take it.

Life is based on change. Everything changes. And, what you are at 20 is not what you will be at 40. That's a fact!

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:17 AM

13. Its not so simple. Many people are hit hard by change.

I mostly agree with you re training etc

There has to be a desire to learn for people to keep up.

There is no lifetime career anymore.

When individuals or families living paycheck to paycheck have to make a move to another state etc, that is not easy.

Easy to fall into serious debt. Just a parking ticket can tip people over.

We need to do a deep dive into actual cultists and determine what drives them precisely.

Simple phone calls will not suffice.



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Response to BSdetect (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:39 AM

20. No!

They need to grow up. They will not get special handling. They were offered solutions that they didn't want to take. That's because the ratfucks told them they could vegetate.

Change isn't easy. But, get in the game! If you want to provide them with psychiatric care because they might have to change, well, more work for psychiatrists. But, don't expect me to cry for them! I spent four years crying for those citizens that got pushed away because of their human differences.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:37 AM

27. Yes, but to paraphrase Jared, "White people have to WANT to succeed."

You have nailed it, EndlessWire. These Trumpies believe if someone is unsuccessful, it's because he or she is lazy. But they don't see themselves in that light. They stubbornly cling to the idea that manufacturing jobs will magically come back, if only they keep an aggressive, cutthroat thug/businessman like Trump in office. They refuse to adapt to the times. And you're right: they are the true elites. They are the ones with a misplaced sense of entitlement.

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:06 AM

10. Repugs want to exploit ignorance

precisely.


And when you exploit ignorance you have better control of the masses.



Repigs are stoking the division in this country. Vile cretins.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:48 AM

5. Trumpism abides irregardless of this election's outcome...

There's a darkness in America. It's an inch or two below the surface, but it runs deep, and it runs wide. We must be sobered by the fact that this election was not the blowout for Biden, and the utter repudiation of Trump that we expected and needed. Lots of people like what Trump is saying, but they just don't want to be called racists, fascists, or Nazis...

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:51 AM

6. There's a lot of work to do,

but to do that work it takes a 1st step. What happened is a great 1st step.

Jesus, Biden/Harris just got the most votes ever in an election.

Biden/Harris are only the 4th candidates to beat an incumbent president.

It is so close to turning N. Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Texas, Arizona blue and with the changing demographics those states look solid in the near future if not right now for some of them.

I see today as a day of celebration, a day we took a huge step to Make America America Again.

I agree with what a guest said on cable news yesterday. He said Joe Biden was wrong when he said that Republicans are not the enemy, they are the enemy and they will never change. We need to treat them like an enemy, we need to bring a canon to a gun fight.

Hey, but today I am going to relax and enjoy the scenery. later on I will go over to my local right wing web site and offer them some condolences, it will be soothing for my soul.

C'mon Pa. count my and my wife's mail in vote and let's get on with our mandate.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:08 AM

11. Make America

Normal Again, (possibly).



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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:13 AM

12. I think that ugliness has always been there.

Trump gave these people the permission to say what they were thinking out loud.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:38 AM

18. Sadly I agree.

Losing the Fairness Doctrine hurt a lot. Kids aren't born racist, misogynist, etc, they have to be taught to hate.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:39 AM

19. Sadly I agree.

Losing the Fairness Doctrine hurt a lot. Kids aren't born racist, misogynist, etc, they have to be taught to hate.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:35 AM

25. True, and furthermore,

maybe it’s not really these people following tRump, it’s tRump following them. I mean, his bedside reading was Mein Kampf, and he was tutored by Roy Cohn. He is highly skilled in taking advantage when he sees an opening. There’s even an article in the NYT about how the misspellings in tweets are intentional.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:57 AM

31. Exactly

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:21 AM

14. Lipstick on a pig

Biden may have won, but it's just wallpaper over the abyss. He had no coat tails. We actually LOST seats in the House. McConnell will assure 4 years of a do-nothing obstructionist Senate. The judiciary is lost to us. Republicans strengthened their stranglehold at the state level. I live in NC. Even though our Democratic governor was re-elected, virtually every other elected position went Republican. As long as the Republicans control state legislatures and can gerrymander at will, confident that the courts will back them up, I don't see a path out of this.

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Response to dss (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:26 AM

16. Those losses were mostly from Miami Dade IINM, there Biden was mud stomped and its a huge

... wake up call to democrats that we need culturally woke consultants for EVERY spectrum including rural white folk.

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Response to dss (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:39 PM

36. Such doom and gloom

Can we please put aside concern for the next few days and appreciate that we're finally getting rid of Trump? Right now all I feel is enormous relief.
Welcome to DU.

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Response to dss (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:12 PM

37. You sound concerned. Sometimes snacks help ease that feeling.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:25 AM

15. Most Trump supporters live in another information world, PERIOD.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:27 AM

17. It's not nearly half, though

Even with the biggest turnout in many years, it would be about a third. Bad enough, I know.

And not all of them would have believed in Trump: some may just always vote Republican; some would have been duped by economic promises; some would have believed certain evangelists that you'll go to hell if you vote for a Democrat. Inattentive, gullible, selfish perhaps - but we're all these things at times when we vote. The actual neo-Confederates, fans of bullying and greed, bigots, authoritarians. etc - they exist; too many of them; but it's not all voters, or half the voters, or even all who voted for American Psycho.

I am not disappointed, because the weird thing is: it's almost EXACTLY what I predicted (and I'm 3000 miles away). I was so sure that it would be too close to call, that I chose not to stay up on election night because I would just be losing my sleep without learning the results. I don't know why I predicted this - maybe I'm just a natural pessimist.

I still have my fingers tightly crossed that Biden may prevail.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:40 AM

21. I'm sorry but I disagree in a way. The vote counting is being manipulated.

It has to do with the vote counting within the electronic vote counting systems.

Go back to the paper ballots with hand recounts and see the difference. We are being played .

IMHO

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:07 AM

22. Sad but true.

Thank you, for posting this poignant article, it sums it up well.

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:45 AM

29. so true

Unfortunately, the Rupert Murdoch's media empire has been the biggest repukes machine (TV & print media) to dispense a world that ones in power want their sycophants' to believe. Along with RW radio. And the Senate repukes, other repukes do everything in their power to destroy Dems powers when we win.


Link: [link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/australia-murdoch-media-inquiry-intl-hnk/index.html]

The petition to parliament was launched by former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd a little over three weeks ago and closed on Wednesday. It calls for a Royal Commission — Australia's highest form of public inquiry — to "investigate threats to media diversity." It also accused media businesses of encouraging "deliberately polarizing and politically manipulated news."
While the petition raised several points of concern, including Google (GOOGL) and Facebook's (FB) relationship with the news media, it singled out Murdoch's News Corp (NWS) as a potential threat to free speech and public debate.

"We are especially concerned that Australia's print media is overwhelmingly controlled by News Corporation, founded by Fox News billionaire Rupert Murdoch, with around two-thirds of daily newspaper readership," the petition said. "This power is routinely used to attack opponents in business and politics by blending editorial opinion with news reporting."


We need to do that here!!!

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:47 AM

30. Very well written

And many good comments on this thread.

I will add that I think we need to work more on how to handle sociopaths. Trump is one. There are many others in business, affecting our economic well being.

How do we distinguish sociopaths? It goes against our goal of no discrimination.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:03 AM

32. I had to learn a lot about sociopaths when preparing for the ministry.

A lot about high conflict personality disorders as well.

There are WAY more of them operating in our society than most people imagine. Unfortunately, sociopathy is most often associated with serial killers when that group represents a teeny tiny minority. It's the powerful ones in business and government that leave far more devastation in their wake than a Ted Bundy.

Distinguishing sociopaths can be really difficult. They are usually spotted by the problems they have already caused. HCPs can be predicted if you know what to look for.

ETA: This is a decent article about HCPs. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/201711/how-quickly-spot-high-conflict-people

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:11 PM

38. Have you read anything by M.E. Thomas, like her blog?

She's a self identified sociopath who grew up in the Mormon Church which gave her the tools to 'pass' and behave as a neurotypical person.

She wrote a book:

https://www.npr.org/2013/06/19/193099258/inside-the-mind-of-a-sociopath

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:06 AM

33. . . .

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Response to mdbl (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:16 AM

34. Kick for later reading

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