Will "Trumpism" outlast Trump?

[pfitz59]

A hallmark of the Trump years has been the lack of any meaningful legislative accomplishment. His EO's will be voided immediately by Biden. His appointees stripped of rank, title and access, and their nefarious actions stopped and reversed. Trump has shouted "I have a plan" for nearly every hot-button issue, but never actually produced any plans. (Because he is lazy, disorganized and erratic.) He will likely curtail his "rallies" when he loses AF-1 and has to pay all costs out of pocket. Not a single leader, domestic or international, will meet with "Citizen" Trump, because he is a self-centered ass. His creditors will turn the screws because there is no profit left courting favor, and accommodating Trumper tantrums. His supporters won't have a rallying point and will retreat to the shadows where they usually lurk. He will be a President with an asterisk.

[msongs]

1. no, stalin/hitler/mussolin cults died with their idols. same with rush nt

[regnaD kciN]

21. Two of those "died" because their idols were decisively defeated in battle...

It's hard for successors to Hitler or Mussolini to arise when the allies were occupying their countries.

But cults of personality are hard to resurrect. To give a far more benign example than a bunch of dictators, when MLK was killed, Ralph Abernathy took over for him, but never was able to replicate his success because he lacked the charisma.

[SomedayKindaLove]

2. We will be dealing with Trumpism for the rest of our lives

[XanaDUer2]

34. Yes

nt

[XanaDUer2]

35. Yes

nt

[dustyscamp]

3. Bet on it

[lapfog_1]

4. we will see

once the cult leader is shown to be fallible... the cult usually dissipates,

That said, there are counter examples... Scientology for example.

[Proud liberal 80]

5. yes

it's called American conservatism....it never goes away, just rebrands itself

[BKDem]

30. I (politely) beg to differ.

I could tolerate American conservatives, up to a point. Trumpies aren’t conservatives. They’re something very special. Racists. Fascists. Toothless mouth-breathers. Morons. Assholes. Trophy hunters. And so on.

[Proud liberal 80]

31. That's the republican base

Racists. Fascists. Toothless mouth-breathers. Morons. Assholes. Trophy hunters. And so on.

That has been the Republican base since Nixon

[JanMichael]

6. Well he did let the crazies have a voice. The Nazis need to be repacked in a tight box.

A "Lock Box"...remember Gore?

[Binkie The Clown]

7. Did Naziism survive Hitler? Sadly, it did. nt

[mr_lebowski]

8. The Sweetest, Greatest Insult to him will be ...

When Twitter just goes "Yeah, ya know what? Fuck You!" and bans him permanently.

In an ideal world that would happen like 20 minutes after Biden is declared the victor.

[standingtall]

9. Yes it will

They will just latch on to the next jerk that gets the republican nomination. In order to defeat Trumpism we needed a bigger win than we got. So guess Democrats are going to have to work on that in the coming years.

[Newest Reality]

10. I wonder.

His cult members are not very swift and can be easily distracted.

When you take away their Fat Orange Kewpie Doll, their minds may wander elsewhere in no time.

"Hey, look! A shiny object!"

[BernieBabies]

11. There will be someone worse than Trump

Republicans always get worse.
The trend is your friend.
The future evil leader will likely be more disciplined than Trump.

Trumpism was always there. He exposed it.

[icwlmuscyia]

17. there was evil Repugs before Trump - Gingrich, DeLay and Smoky Boehner come to mind

there will be someone to build on Trump's evil. - Tom Cotton comes to mind

[DBoon]

24. like Tom Cotton?

[regnaD kciN]

12. I'm sure there will be lots of Republicans vying to become "the next Trump"...

...particularly since he didn't lose in a blowout. However, I tend to doubt they'll find anyone with the same "celebrity" appeal.

[Vogon_Glory]

13. I don't know much about it, but

I recall that Peronism outlasterld Juan and Evita Peron. I suspect Trumpism will survive for a while.

[MarcA]

14. Yes, until humans evolve beyond it or contain it.

It has always been around in some form and name.

[0rganism]

15. "Trumpism", as i understand it, was here long before Trump and will remain long after

as FLOTUS Michelle Obama said, "Being president doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are"
this time around, the president has exposed Americans generally
i've reached the conclusion that we've always had it in us

[ansible]

16. Unfortunately this is just the beginning

Biden's gun control proposals and raising of higher taxes is going to trigger a massive amount of problems.

[Mike 03]

18. Katherine Stewart and Sara Posner, in their respective books, make a

powerful argument that Trumpism existed before Trump, and that it will continue on afterwards, although where it goes remains to be seen. They both argue that it can be traced back to the 1960s Civil Rights movement.

Katherine Stewart: The Power Worshippers
Sarah Posner: Unholy

[Harker]

19. There's no shortage of schmucks

that would love to try replacing him.

[Shermann]

20. Yeah Kayleigh can have that book of EO's back from Leslie Stahl

It's not worth anything.

[bdamomma]

22. We would all like to see

him incarcerated, but he would start his own propaganda station. That would be scary. He has his cult members out there for now.

Or will the SC ax the ACA with no replacement.

[procon]

23. Without the Bully Pulpit, he'll fade back into a

loudmouthed, uncouth celebrity party guest. He needs to be on TV everyday, but as a loser, another dried up old has been, even Fox will eventually stop taking his calls.

Trump will regain some measure of notoriety when his name starts appearing as DEFENDANT on a long list of state and federal court cases. That's the TV coverage I would watch.

[In It to Win It]

25. Trumpism will still be around. The obnoxiousness is gonna stick around

I'm just not sure who they are gonna make giant flags and do boat parades for anymore.

[Polly Hennessey]

26. Let us hope.

I especially like his losing AF1. Will he hold rallies if he must pay. Unlikely. World leaders will seek out Biden. Bet the Queen sends an invite soon. Most happily, Barr will be gone. Homeland Security will be in responsible hands. EOs will be rescinded. The CDC will regain its past respect and lead us out of the Covid crisis. The nuclear codes will be in safe hands again. No more tweets. The White House will be free of the awful degrading presence of the skanky Melania and the grifters, Ivanka and Jared. I am hopeful the Idiots health will decline and he becomes the simpering, drooling fool he is.

[Doreen]

27. Well, Reaganomics lasted so possibly trumpism could.

[octoberlib]

28. Maybe but Trump's authoritarian followers will be lying in wait for the next authoritarian who comes

along and transfer their adoration to him. John Dean wrote there's one out there right now who's smarter, more competent and better organized than Trump thinking about running for office. It will take vigilance.

[mtnsnake]

29. Considering that Trumpism is just a synonym for racism & fascism, yes

it will outlast Trump, but we need to continue fighting it until it's gone, if that's possible.

[msongs]

32. once trump is not president he has no power and ppl will ignore him nt

[JHB]

33. There is no "Trumpism", it's a beast the Republicans have spent 50 years breeding

Since the 70s conservatives have developed a set of hot-button issues that they can use to steam people up and get them voting their way over a single or small set of issues. Their daily saturation of the airwaves and other media have framed issues according to their talking points, using that weird dialect of English were things mean whatever conservatives want them to mean (e.g., "socialism" is anything that impedes sending money skyward, as much as possible as fast as possible as high as possible).


Until that system is disrupted, the mindless fantasy-driven zealotry will continue.