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Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:47 AM

AP declared Biden the winner in AZ; why haven't the others outlets?

Usually the Associated Press is more conservative in its projections yet they seem to be the only outlet making a call:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/03/arizona-2020-presidential-election-results-donald-trump-joe-biden/5996346002/

The NYT map shows that there are far more remaining votes to be counted in the more heavily populated counties voting Democratic than in the less populated red counties:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-arizona.html

There is simply no way drumpf is going to make up the 100,000 plus vote difference. In fact, Biden's winning margin should grow.

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Reply AP declared Biden the winner in AZ; why haven't the others outlets? (Original post)
Bradshaw3 Nov 2020 OP
In It to Win It Nov 2020 #1
uponit7771 Nov 2020 #2
qazplm135 Nov 2020 #3
Bradshaw3 Nov 2020 #8
obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #4
Mike 03 Nov 2020 #5
KewlKat Nov 2020 #6
Mike 03 Nov 2020 #7
KewlKat Nov 2020 #11
BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #9
greenman3610 Nov 2020 #10

Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:48 AM

1. They're scared

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:48 AM

2. Ratings

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:51 AM

3. Because they don't know for sure

They are being cautious, there's no conspiracy.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:58 AM

8. Never said there was a conspiracy

Just asked a question.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:53 AM

4. AP and Fox Decision Desk have called it for Biden

And, both are actually usually very cautious and very accurate

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:53 AM

5. NYT is predicting AZ will complete its vote count today.

Biden is up by 5%, and Mark Kelly's race was called last night.

82% of the votes have been counted.

Where are the uncounted votes? If they are in Maricopa and Pima counties, we will take this state.

In 2016, it took days (five? six?) to call the Kyrsten Sinema/McSally race, even though Sinema was ahead the entire time. Most of the outstanding tabulation was in Maricopa county, IIRC. Sinema's lead just kept widening.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:56 AM

6. Last night on CNN, a whitehouse correspondent said that per some WH aide, it

Was after AZ was projected for Joe that drumpf went off the rails and demanded they stop the counting. The CNN guy said we haven’t called it for Biden and this woman said well the AP had.

So maybe the news outlets were fearful of calling it for Joe because of drumpf’s behavior?

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:57 AM

7. That's an interesting tidbit.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:01 AM

11. Yeah, and I believe that is why drumpf wanted most states to stop but for AZ to

Continue the count.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:00 AM

9. I remember in 2018 that the NYT site was REAL REAL slow calling some races.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:00 AM

10. Aljazeera also projected Joe in Arizona, maybe cueing from AP?

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