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Georgia, Arizona (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Nov 2020 OP
I said that a month ago and had 5 people jump on me. But you are correct. idziak4ever1234 Nov 2020 #1
Agreed. Dawson Leery Nov 2020 #2
Miami/Dade screwed us in FL mvd Nov 2020 #3
That's just not true. PTWB Nov 2020 #6
Even with Trump's lead being +3? mvd Nov 2020 #11
Got some questions about MI & PA too. PTWB Nov 2020 #4
You are right Proud liberal 80 Nov 2020 #5
Yep. PTWB Nov 2020 #8
PA will look a lot better once the mail in vote is counted starting tomorrow. Salviati Nov 2020 #7
Freakin hate Missouri RANDYWILDMAN Nov 2020 #9
Missouri was considered a bellwether state as recently as 2000. StevieM Nov 2020 #10
That was my point Proud liberal 80 Nov 2020 #12
I think we can win Florida if we do well with Cuban-Americans, like we did in 2016. StevieM Nov 2020 #14
I was going to suggest that Iowa has become NE SharonClark Nov 2020 #13
Except for the Selzer poll Proud liberal 80 Nov 2020 #15

mvd

(65,169 posts)
3. Miami/Dade screwed us in FL
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:55 AM
Nov 2020

A normal margin and we win. I can’t believe some bought Trump’s socialism fear nonsense.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
6. That's just not true.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:57 AM
Nov 2020

Look at the totals - even if we had won Miami Dade by HRC’s margin in 2016 (which was considered quite good), we would still have lost by more votes this time than in 2016 although it would have been close.

There’s a lot wrong in Florida besides the Cuban vote.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
5. You are right
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:57 AM
Nov 2020

They are trending red...ironically people are leaving those states and going to Georgia, Arizona and Texas because of jobs

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
7. PA will look a lot better once the mail in vote is counted starting tomorrow.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:57 AM
Nov 2020

A 1.1 million vote advantage for the Democrats makes the numbers look a lot better.

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,667 posts)
9. Freakin hate Missouri
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:58 AM
Nov 2020

and all these other posers trying to be like Missouri, They fouled Claire over and for the toadie Josh Hawley and I will never forgive them.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
10. Missouri was considered a bellwether state as recently as 2000.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:58 AM
Nov 2020

That was when it began to be reliably Republican.

We can still do really well in Florida, as long as we recover the progress we had made among Cuban-Americans. Hillary won them as recently as 2016. So even though we didn't do well with them in this election, I am confident that we can do much better in 2024.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
12. That was my point
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:00 AM
Nov 2020
Missouri was considered a bellwether state as recently as 2000.

That was when it began to be reliably Republican.


Iowa, Florida, and Ohio are going that way

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. I think we can win Florida if we do well with Cuban-Americans, like we did in 2016.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:01 AM
Nov 2020

That was only 4 years ago. I think in 2024 we will do much better.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
13. I was going to suggest that Iowa has become NE
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:01 AM
Nov 2020

but MO seems more accurate. It looks like IA will lose 2 Congressional seats and several seats in the Iowa Senate and House.

My heart is broken because I knew Trump and Ernst might win but the two congressional seats were a shock and not reflected in the polls.

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