I envy a lot of you.

[LSFL]

I don't know a single person in my work, friends, or family life that agrees with me on religiion or politics. I am not a raging asshole about either subject, and get along well for the most part.
But I am tired. Lonely and tired. Lonely for a decent exchange of ideas; tired of watching people I love twisting themselves into knots trying to relieve the cognitive dissonance that the reps have inflicted on them for decades. I still love them, but I have lost all respect for them. Can I ever get it back? I feel like I need to leave my home of 40 years .
God I hope Joe wins. Trump will heal nothing.

[634-5789]

1. You still have us, and we're a pretty fun bunch!

[Laelth]

2. I am glad that you are here with us.

Namaste.



-Laelth

[onecaliberal]

3. We are here! You have us.

[Marie Marie]

4. You have a lot of kindred spirits here at DU.

I too have been shocked to learn that people I once admired are Trump Supporters. Some I've written off - others I've just chosen not to engage in political discussions. Life is too short. I just chose to spend the majority of my time with those who I have more in common with.

[LakeArenal]

5. Well, my only living relative, my brother, is a liberal

That hasn’t spoken to me in years.

So every family has their jerks.

But please be gracious winner.
Although one small I told you so is okay.

[Dagstead Bumwood]

10. Would having Cheetolini go down in spectacular flames tonight

give you a starting point to reconnect, or is the relationship too far gone for that? All the relatives I'm estranged from are RWNJs.

[LakeArenal]

13. I really have no idea why.

Mr Lake has a huge family that think I’m fine. Lots of great friends. So i can’t fathom what I might have done.

He’s four years older.
Last I heard, my SIL said to stop
Emailing as they charge for international emails. So I stopped. That’s it. 🤷🏼?♀️

[moonscape]

6. This makes me sad. I can't imagine since I'm not in that situation, but

my heart goes out to you. Truly.

Where are you? By the FL in your name I'll make a guess: red area of Florida? If you left, is there a close-by blue area of FL you could move to? Not easy when our roots are where they are.

Easy for me to say how liberating it is to live 'mongst kindred spirits. I grew up in a red area, but there were still enough liberals to make it okay. Now I'm in a deep blue area.

A friend who is in a blood red area of NC and her hubs just have sought out and acquired liberal friends from the region. Maybe that's an option? I agree it's important to be able to have support and exchange ideas.

[LSFL]

15. I live in southeast/southeastern Ky.

The LFSL is sort of an acronym of my late father's favorite saying when things went balls up. "Lovely...Simply Fu**ing Lovely ". I felt it was appropriate when I started this account. Thank you.

[moonscape]

20. Gorgeous area! I grew up in Western NC so

love that whole region of the country.

[appalachiablue]

22. Why not a sub group here for Dems in red communities,

families, workplaces, states and whatever for support. There are many DU groups on a wide variety of subjects.

Having like minded people in similar situations to exchange views and conversation with can be very helpful.

I feel your discomfort, hang in there; I think it's going to be alright nationally and plenty of state & local races.

There has to be change in this country, you can sense it miles away.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

24. That is a good idea

[appalachiablue]

26. It's obvious that it's needed, even before 2nite. Maybe this can happen

[lame54]

7. It's not too late to become a Trump supporter - oh wait - it is

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. I've been living in a brain-dead red county in KY over 40 years. Still voting against the bastards.

[LSFL]

16. Me too!

I lve near Lake Cumberland!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

18. At leasts we have beautiful landscapes. :)

[chia]

9. I'm as lonely as you and I live in CA, a solid blue state. But I live inland, which has a lot of red

and most of my family and friends are conservatives. With a couple exceptions, but that doesn't help much because I really don't have anyone to talk politics and culture with. It's possible to be lonely in a big family, possible to be lonely in a crowd.

Sending you some understanding vibes, friend.

[appalachiablue]

23. Your discomfort is understandable, I think tonite goes well. See #22

[chia]

27. Good idea at #22, I'm up for that :)

[appalachiablue]

28. Great, maybe this can happen!

[I_UndergroundPanther]

25. My aunt Loretta is a rwnj

Makes me sad for her. She's trapped in an evilgelical church.

[PirateRo]

11. You will find lots of that here

As an aside, don’t let geography limit your associations. There are many organizations online that you can find and join. The American Humanist Society is out there and plenty of forums like DU. Use the net and reach out. Google is your friend and there are plenty of people here.

Another important service DU offers is that they are a news aggregation site. Members with varying interests post stories from around the world and across industries.

[TexasBushwhacker]

12. At work I have to stay quiet

My boss and his wife are Trumpvangelicals. She said she cried when he did the State of the Union. Seriously? My boss thinks the stock market will tank if Biden becomes president. The one saving grace is that their youngest daughter is working for us now and I'm pretty sure she's a Democrat.

[Hortensis]

14. Yes, you can get it back. For the most part. Most of them want to

be good people and are in other aspects of their lives. And through the synergistic magic of dishonesty and determined ignorance they truly believe they are politically the good people also. Many are aware enough to be very unhappy with some of the hard choices forced on them because they have no choice but to oppose the grave threats to America from the left.

From what I've read, the usual pattern to social pathologies like trumpism is that, when those caught up in them are forced to realize they went bad along with a bad leader, they subsequently come to deny and often even eventually forget they did. The same very malleable attitude about truth as before, perhaps, but now it's reinforcing a sincere disapproval of what they or others should never have done.

Itm, you have us. Guessing there are lots close to you, though, who feel as you do even if you don't know who they are.

[LSFL]

19. Thank you so much.

You so eloquently described my friends and family. I cannot cancel all of them. Even a middle aged curmudgeonly misanthrope like me needs company.

[zipplewrath]

17. 37 years

I worked in a very conservative industry that was at least 60% GOP and leadership was about 80%. We democrats tended to keep quiet unless we identified each other. It does get very frustrating.

[LSFL]

21. I feel you very well.

That frustration is why my jury selection percentage hovers around 25 percent. I have a bad day amongst the trumpsticles (tm), I go home, have some brews and log on to vent. Then I get hides because I apparently become a knuckle dragging troglodyte who says crazy stuff.