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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:58 PM Nov 2020

Thank You, Lincoln Project!



Thank You, Lincoln Project!

We, the undersigned, are truly grateful for your help and assistance, and for the clever and creative in-your-face messaging that never held-back and told it like it was. Whether the ads were humorous, or provocative... they were always inspiring and motivating.

Sincerely,

The members of Democratic Underground

https://lincolnproject.us/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpYCxV51bykhMY-wSUozQRg

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Thank You, Lincoln Project! (Original Post) NurseJackie Nov 2020 OP
Lincoln Project sure was fun to watch, but I doubt they changed any minds. Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #1
I saw an interview with Wilson where he indicated that they are forever divorced from the GOP. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #3
True. Perhaps I should have said they lean conservative, and Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #6
Well, we didn't marry them. We just accepted their help... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #7
lol whttevrr Nov 2020 #13
WEll, we certainly agree on that! I appreciate their help. Not going to lick their boots, though. nt Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #17
I hardly think that an expression of gratitude and acknowledging their valuable contribution... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #23
Agreed. The Lincoln Project has been a bunch of Marines during this campaign. I thank them. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #59
I'm with you on that. These are former Dick Cheney fans-the torture of prisoners is OK guy. jalan48 Nov 2020 #45
no one llashram Nov 2020 #75
We may have married them, because they want to dance with us now. GoneOffShore Nov 2020 #18
Yes, they are former Republicans and still self-proclaimed conservatives peggysue2 Nov 2020 #8
I think they may have convinced some republicans who were thinking about not voting... George II Nov 2020 #10
Well said, George.. & the Vid is Beautiful.. Cha Nov 2020 #14
It's on their website here: George II Nov 2020 #20
TY.. they have made some incredible Cha Nov 2020 #22
Whether you agree with them ideologically or not, they're patriotic Americans. George II Nov 2020 #24
That's a wonderful video. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #57
I think they've helped a lot Using trump's Cha Nov 2020 #12
I saw an interview with Susan DelPercio; she thinks they swung 5%-7% of GOP voters. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #19
LOL! ANY? Really, not one? nt USALiberal Nov 2020 #34
They did a lot more than ads. Mike Madrid worked on Latino outreach in Florida with octoberlib Nov 2020 #36
In one poll of people who have already voted AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #51
Agree - realignment is occuring. radius777 Nov 2020 #71
You d'bitch Jackie. My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #2
Thank you! 😘👄💏💋 NurseJackie Nov 2020 #4
lol melman Nov 2020 #5
Are you calling those who support the Lincoln Project "right-wing trash. Now and forever."? George II Nov 2020 #53
. melman Nov 2020 #56
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #60
Exactamundo! melman Nov 2020 #61
. aidbo Nov 2020 #62
Steve Schmidt on Liz Cheney melman Nov 2020 #63
Liz Cheney would be awful JonLP24 Nov 2020 #64
I don't see Senator Cheney being Majority Leader in our lifetimes. George II Nov 2020 #79
"Clueless libs"? Here? George II Nov 2020 #78
LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #91
Actually exactly the opposite AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #76
George Conway, Rick Wilson and Steve Schmidt are moderates? melman Nov 2020 #80
Yes. When one thinks logically. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #81
Did you know who any of them were four years ago? melman Nov 2020 #82
Did you know Obama was against LGBTQ marriage in 2008? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #83
What's the key word? melman Nov 2020 #84
huh? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #85
What? melman Nov 2020 #86
Your question didn't make sense to me AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #87
Uh huh melman Nov 2020 #88
Of course, who wouldn't appreciate their efforts Cha Nov 2020 #9
Vote for America. Gothmog Nov 2020 #42
TLP makes the Most Patriotic Loving Cha Nov 2020 #46
I listen to their youtube channel vlogs. They are much more comforting and supportive than Kahuna Nov 2020 #11
Excellent points, Kahuna.. Mahalo! Cha Nov 2020 #16
Hey Baby! Kahuna Nov 2020 #21
Hey there! Cha Nov 2020 #27
They realize Trump is a menace and literal lives are at stake ismnotwasm Nov 2020 #15
They are actually Americans... sheshe2 Nov 2020 #25
The Lincoln Project has been brilliant brettdale Nov 2020 #26
If they want to continue ratfucking the GOP, I will help them after the election. roamer65 Nov 2020 #28
Same. I will continue to follow them. My B.S. detector is intact... Kahuna Nov 2020 #72
K&R betsuni Nov 2020 #29
I appreciate all they've done, for sure. LuvNewcastle Nov 2020 #30
Lincoln Project has had spectacular ads. As have the Biden/Harris campaign, and many others. Chasing Dreams Nov 2020 #31
The Lincoln Project and Harrison Ford are teaming up Gothmog Nov 2020 #41
I truly appreciate the job they've done. Should we wind up winning tomorrow we should all.... George II Nov 2020 #32
It's irrational. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #35
Thank you, LP. Niagara Nov 2020 #33
After tomorrow; good riddance... EarthFirst Nov 2020 #37
I believe they will continue to campaign against Trump Enablers for the foreseeable future. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #38
And they have the most outrageous proposals to finish off the GOP My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #39
Those are horrible... George II Nov 2020 #70
Many more vulnerable republican senators are up in 2022 AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #52
Exactly. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2020 #66
+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #67
Mark Hamill. Harrison Ford... The Force is strong with The Lincoln Project. Gothmog Nov 2020 #40
Bazinga! George II Nov 2020 #43
I do appreciate their help. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #44
I loved the ads and appreciated their help MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #47
Thank you Lincoln Project. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #48
Thank you Mark Hamill and The Lincoln Project Gothmog Nov 2020 #49
I Just Hope Our Fellas Are Taking Notes, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2020 #54
The enemy of my enemy gldstwmn Nov 2020 #55
Yes indeed! Intelligent and reasonable people understand such things. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #68
hopefully they will continue llashram Nov 2020 #77
Thank you LP Green Line Nov 2020 #58
Lincoln Project rocks! trueblue2007 Nov 2020 #65
at any other time i may be skeptical of their motives. In this dire election period and having seen onetexan Nov 2020 #69
TLP is one of the most important elements of the Resistance radius777 Nov 2020 #73
+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #74
They are great, not looking forward to them marlakay Nov 2020 #89
I hope that our own PACs were watching and learning. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #90
Two cheers for the Never Trump conservatives Gothmog Dec 2020 #92

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
1. Lincoln Project sure was fun to watch, but I doubt they changed any minds.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

And don't forget that in the final analysis, they ARE a Republican organization.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. True. Perhaps I should have said they lean conservative, and
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:17 PM
Nov 2020

are not to be thought of as friends of the Liberals.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Well, we didn't marry them. We just accepted their help...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:19 PM
Nov 2020

... and for any assistance that ANYONE gives to us (regardless of their history) I will always be grateful.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. I hardly think that an expression of gratitude and acknowledging their valuable contribution...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:44 PM
Nov 2020

... is the same as "licking their boots". That's not what this is about or intended to be.

There are some lessons to be learned and I think that our own liberal groups and PACS would be wise to take pointers and lessons from their success. Especially the fact that they were able to make VERY EFFECTIVE and memorable commercials that were ONLY SIXTY SECONDS LONG.

So many of the other liberal spots I've seen just dragged on and on and on before getting to the point... failing to deliver their zinger or message with clarity and post-hast was always a weak spot with some of these "commercials" that were just condensed novellas. (But for some reason, they were met with rave reviews among the choir, but weren't so effective as a tool to sway the undecided, or to change the minds of those who weren't strong Trump supporters.)

In any case, it was a great run and I hope we Democrats can continue on in the same direction by imitating their clarity and conviction and professionalism and style. Their ads just NAILED IT over and over... consistently.

I was very impressed.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
59. Agreed. The Lincoln Project has been a bunch of Marines during this campaign. I thank them.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 12:13 AM
Nov 2020

I don't care if they're "right leaning". Not everyone or everything "right leaning" is bad.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
75. no one
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:38 AM
Nov 2020

licked any boots. An appreciation something akin to "reaching across the aisle" is appropriate. Hell simple comparison is Mueller fail but showed real malfeasance by the current administration. It was trying desperately to maintain a thin veneer of unnecessary civility. TLP put it in their face. I appreciated their effort at exposing what a "tin pot wannabe dictator" trump is.

peggysue2

(10,826 posts)
8. Yes, they are former Republicans and still self-proclaimed conservatives
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:22 PM
Nov 2020

But they have assumed the position of a ProDemocracy organization. They are not disbanding after the election, not until the last Trump enabler and apologist is removed from office. They'll be active in the January special election contests, and then begin work for the 2022 and 2024 cycle. They've vowed to fight on for whatever length of time it takes to removes the last vestiges of Trumpism.

Biden/Harris will win. But tomorrow's election is just the beginning. For all of us.

VOTE for America. VOTE for the future. I will support any organization that does the same.

to the Lincoln Project. They've brought the fire!

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. I think they may have convinced some republicans who were thinking about not voting...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

....to wind up voting for Biden. And for some others on the fence they pushed them over to the Democratic side.

That's good enough for me.

But the one thing I appreciate is that they showed themselves to be loyal and patriotic Americans. That's more than we can say about many republicans and also so non-republicans.

Here is their final video. I'm going to miss seeing their work almost every day:





Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
57. That's a wonderful video.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 12:06 AM
Nov 2020

I just caught it on Lawrence O'Donnell's show, and am verklempt in a pre-release of Election Day tension.

Good tears.

Cha

(297,031 posts)
12. I think they've helped a lot Using trump's
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

words against him.. getting the truth out.

There's republicans for Biden, too. It's not just Dems who want him gone.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. I saw an interview with Susan DelPercio; she thinks they swung 5%-7% of GOP voters.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:38 PM
Nov 2020

I have no idea how real that claim is, but it's interesting.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
36. They did a lot more than ads. Mike Madrid worked on Latino outreach in Florida with
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:08 PM
Nov 2020

the Sander's campaign's Chuck Rocha. They had volunteers on the ground in every swing state knocking on doors. They're working with seesay2020.com to report voter suppression at the polls. They held virtual townhalls, as well.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
50. In one poll of people who have already voted
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM
Nov 2020

14-18% of republicans voted for Biden.

That is a miraculous feat which was accomplished by TLP and RVAT's targeted media placements.

Just as we had "Reagan Democrats" we will now have "Biden Republicans" -- many of those may not go back when Biden performs well.

Not thanking TLP because they are republicans is being ungrateful.

Response to AmericanCanuck (Reply #50)

radius777

(3,635 posts)
71. Agree - realignment is occuring.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 08:25 AM
Nov 2020

Rurals have shifted red and suburbs are shifting blue, especially the suburban women.

Trump's ugliness works with some voters but it also repels others.

Response to melman (Reply #5)

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
63. Steve Schmidt on Liz Cheney
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 01:05 AM
Nov 2020

Behind her veneer of support for President Trump— she votes with him “something like 97 percent of the time,” she bragged on “Fox & Friends” in July—there’s a far harsher reality: Many of her and her father’s closest friends and ideological allies have become the most virulent Trump critics. The large group, which includes former national security adviser John Bolton, Steve Schmidt, Steve Hayes, Bill Kristol, and Jennifer Rubin, are rooting for Liz to restore their brand of conservatism after Trump.

"I've talked to a lot of people about the conversation we have to have in the Republican Party, about how to cut this albatross off from around our necks if he loses,” Bolton told POLITICO, referring to Trump. “And I think it's going to be very robust across the board."

Schmidt, the former counselor to Dick Cheney and adviser to John McCain who has become a prominent Trump critic, said, “If there’s a resurgence of conservatism as a functioning political philosophy in this country, Liz Cheney is as good a bet as anybody to be a leader in that. Liz Cheney is certainly not going to be a person over the next 20 years who’s fighting to advance nationalism and populism.”

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2020/11/01/liz-cheney-moment-430972


Good times.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
76. Actually exactly the opposite
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:42 AM
Nov 2020

TLP is comprised of educated and moderate republicans who hate the right wing trash and lament what has happened to their party.

The Trump supporting contingent is the right wing trash.

My speculation is that TLP wants to start a new party called the Lincoln party and get sane, rational, educated conservatives on board to the exclusion of the trump and trump enabling cabal.

We do need a functioning opposition that will negotiate and pass legislation for the benefit of America instead of just saying no to everything.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
81. Yes. When one thinks logically.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 01:34 PM
Nov 2020

They are fighting the extreme -- which makes them moderates.

I have seen that logic used here against Joe Biden - some even going to the length of calling him "Republican Lite" and forgetting his progressive credentials.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
83. Did you know Obama was against LGBTQ marriage in 2008?
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

Did you know Bernie Sanders was not a millionaire in 2015?

Cha

(297,031 posts)
9. Of course, who wouldn't appreciate their efforts
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:55 PM
Nov 2020

to enlighten & get rid of trump. and help Dems in the Senate.. except of course those in the cult.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
11. I listen to their youtube channel vlogs. They are much more comforting and supportive than
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

MSNBC and CNN. Nary a negative or dismissive word towards Biden and Democrats. They praise Biden and drag trump and his republican enablers. I cannot watch the cable channels because they are too annoying and depressing. I anxiously await their next vlog in a half hour at 2:30p.

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
15. They realize Trump is a menace and literal lives are at stake
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:07 PM
Nov 2020

Hell yes I’ll thank them. This country fucked up in 2016, and I just hope we can fix it with a Biden win.

brettdale

(12,373 posts)
26. The Lincoln Project has been brilliant
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:37 PM
Nov 2020

They have done so much good on twitter, seriously hats off to them!!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
28. If they want to continue ratfucking the GOP, I will help them after the election.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:42 PM
Nov 2020

I am a rabid anti-Trumpist till I die and even after that.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
72. Same. I will continue to follow them. My B.S. detector is intact...
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 08:28 AM
Nov 2020

Unless or until I suspect they are going back to the dark side, I will stop following them. So far, they appear to be quite genuine.

LuvNewcastle

(16,843 posts)
30. I appreciate all they've done, for sure.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:57 PM
Nov 2020

It seems like most Democrats just don't have the killer instinct needed to really go after an opponent, and that was most necessary this time around. Democrats just aren't mean enough, or at least the ones who do our ads aren't. Or if they're mean enough, they aren't succinct enough. If nothing else, I hope Democrats are taking lessons on how to attack an opponent properly and do maximum damage. If the Democrats want to be a majority party again, they're going to have to learn how to attack, not just defend.

Chasing Dreams

(415 posts)
31. Lincoln Project has had spectacular ads. As have the Biden/Harris campaign, and many others.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

So yes, a big thank you to LP and everyone working on this campaign!

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. I truly appreciate the job they've done. Should we wind up winning tomorrow we should all....
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:03 PM
Nov 2020

....be appreciative, but the bitterness on the part of some is palpable.

All the groups have had great ads, from Bloomberg early on to Biden's ads themselves, to the MeidasTouch, to republican Voters Against Trump, but perhaps the best have been those from The Lincoln Project.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. I believe they will continue to campaign against Trump Enablers for the foreseeable future.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:12 PM
Nov 2020

They'll be of great value to us.

My Pet Orangutan

(9,224 posts)
39. And they have the most outrageous proposals to finish off the GOP
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:21 PM
Nov 2020

Civil Rights
Voting Rights
Election Integrity
Ethics Reform

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
52. Many more vulnerable republican senators are up in 2022
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:47 PM
Nov 2020

TLP is committed to stomping out all senators who supported and enabled Trump.

We need them in our coalition to bring this country back and win in 2024.

If Ted Cruz, Chris Christie or Marco Rubio becomes the nominee, TLP will be on our side.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
48. Thank you Lincoln Project.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:54 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:36 PM - Edit history (1)

I've really appreciated all you've done, from your ads to your townhalls, to your provocative discussions and TV appearances, and tweets. You've helped make these past few months a little bit more bearable for me, and hopefully less bearable for Trump and his enablers.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
68. Yes indeed! Intelligent and reasonable people understand such things.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:32 AM
Nov 2020

I hope they remain our friends. I'm looking forward to their continued work in outing everyone who enabled Trump.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
77. hopefully they will continue
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:54 AM
Nov 2020

to try and clean up a horribly soiled reputation of the trump-McConnell GOP.

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
69. at any other time i may be skeptical of their motives. In this dire election period and having seen
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:39 AM
Nov 2020

how TLP gets under the Con's/Gop's skin i am grateful they are our comrades in defending democracy.

In this critical juncture when the fate of our country teeters on the precipice, i'm glad there are sensible anti-45 Republicans/former Republicans putting country over party.

Thank you TLP!!

radius777

(3,635 posts)
73. TLP is one of the most important elements of the Resistance
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 08:39 AM
Nov 2020

as without them Trumpers/RW would be able to paint us 'crazy libs who would call any Repub a fascist.'

TLP and the Never-Trumper movement is real - as we see college educated voters and suburban women moving over to Dems, both in 2018 and in this election.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
90. I hope that our own PACs were watching and learning.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

Too often our liberal ads are WAY WAY WAY too long. Too much information, delivered too slowly, meandering and with no specific point or destination in mind. In contrast, the LP ads were crisp, clever, clear, concise, and focused like a laser. They were well-written and delivered the punch in under 60-seconds.

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
92. Two cheers for the Never Trump conservatives
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 08:59 PM
Dec 2020



The shameful complicity of Republican leaders in President Trump’s torrent of deceit about our election tells us there is little hope for a more reasonable post-Trump GOP. But what about conservatism as a philosophy? Is it equally discredited?

Let’s begin by just saying it: The country owes the Never Trump conservatives a debt.

Yes, many progressives have been uneasy with these unusual allies. They insist that Trump was not some alien imposition on conservatism but rather the product of long-standing trends in Republican politics. Trafficking in racial division and racism, nativism, extremism, conspiracy theories and voter suppression did not start with Trump.

Progressives are entirely right about this. But the Never Trumpers deserve our respect precisely because so many of them stood against these tendencies and, in more cases than not, undertook a deeper critique of their own side......

Of course, I’d like the anti-Trump conservatives to admit the error of their ways and fully join my side of politics. But failing that, I still appreciate what they did. And I hope at least they can now champion a brand of conservatism that is about more than making the rich richer and the powerful more powerful.
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