Just caught a bit of Trump's PA rally on CNN

[EarlG]

They’ve cut away now, but he sounded rough as hell. Speaking slowly, gravelly voice — he was trying to hit the usual beats and the crowd was cheering, but he just sounded weak and, dare I say, low-energy.

And he’s got three more of these today. Is he going to make it?

[soothsayer]

1. Let's hope it's nothing trivial

[NurseJackie]

32. Haaaaa!

[LiberalFighter]

71. Sure would be fun having that showing up on Trump's Twitter account...

every time he opens it up.

[BlueMTexpat]

75. LOVE this!

[cwydro]

34. Lol!

[SheltieLover]

39. This!👆

[tanyev]

48. *snort*

[eppur_se_muova]

55. My favorite John Cleese line ! nt

[mountain grammy]

94. hahaha

[getagrip_already]

2. Is that anything like tasting a little vomit from a burp?

Just askin. I can't bear the thought of hearing his smarmy voice.

Thanks for taking it for the team though......

[Cracklin Charlie]

9. +1

[LiberalFighter]

72. Yummy compared to other stuff.

[Ms. Toad]

3. Steroids wearing off,

longer term effects of COVID catching up to him.

If he doesn't make it, that will solve the problem of diminishing the havoc he will wreak between Nov 3 and January 20.

[PSPS]

24. And, if we're lucky enough for pence to keel over, we'll have president pelosi. Works for me!

[Ms. Toad]

26. I'm happy as long as someone with an ounce of restraint

takes over on Nov 4. As much as I disagree with Pence, I think he can be trusted not to destroy the country just for the fun of it.

[Illumination]

40. OMG! Trust Pence? The murdering "leader" of the Coronavirus Task Force? He's ALREADY

helped to destroy this country! Compare U.S. C-19 with other countries & you'll find he's been a failure just like the other murdering "leader" Trump!...

[Ms. Toad]

60. I didn't say I trusted him in general.

I said I trusted him in a very limited way: not to destroy the country for the fun of it - which is exactly what I expect Trump to do between November 4 and January 20.

[Illumination]

79. In general, I don't associate the word TRUST with the Republican Party...

[Ms. Toad]

80. Whether you use that word or not,

the issue in this particular question is which is most likely to do less damage between Nov 3 and January 20.

[OldBaldy1701E]

54. Think again

You let that theocratic lunatic loose for just over two months and watch what he gets the evangelical base to do. There are plenty of seats in Congress and beyond that are pretty dependent on courting their votes, and they will not endanger their own seats by using reason and reality. (Hell, they have not yet!) He won't destroy the country for the fun of it. He will destroy this country for the 'soul' of it. (i.e.:, he would rather it be ruined than allowed to be taken over by the 'godless'.)

[Ms. Toad]

57. I disagree. n/t

[OldBaldy1701E]

62. And, that is awesome,

but I would really rather not give him the opportunity to prove either (or both) of us wrong.

[Ms. Toad]

66. My only point is that of the two, for that brief period,

I think Pence is less dangerous. Since we can't do anything about Trump - I'd prefer he vanish and leave us with Pence.

[Illumination]

82. Only trouble is...Pence is incompetent just like his buddy Trump!...

[Ms. Toad]

84. I'll take plain old incompetence any day -

over a malevolent bully with enough experience and political clout to accomplish the evil he has managed to carry out over the past 4 years.

[Illumination]

92. You seem to have an air tight case there! Makes PERFECT sense to me! Goodbye. It was a joy

chatting with you!...

[sheshe2]

105. Incompetence?

The head of the COVID task force (Pence) is defying every guideline HIS TASK FORCE SET UP! Self quarantine. He has been exposed twice now and refuses to follow HIS OWN GUIDELINES!

He is knowingly and willfully spreading the virus in states that are seeing a huge rise in cases and deaths. That is not incompetence, it is willfully putting Americans in harms way. He is, with malice and forethought willfully exposing them to a deadly virus.

They are one in the same.

[Ms. Toad]

106. That's the same line third party voters use about Biden and Trump.

There's no difference, so I might as well vote third party.

There is a very clear difference between Trump and Pence - and since the choice is between the two of them for the next 3 months (based on the hypothetical posed in the OP), Pence is far less dangerous than Trump.

[sheshe2]

107. Did I miss something?

Pence is running for Prez? My post was about Pence and trump, not Biden.

Ms. Toad

106. That's the same line third party voters use about Biden and Trump.

There's no difference, so I might as well vote third party.

????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Where did the OP, EarlG say this? The race, MS Toad....this election is between trump and Biden. I am confused that you think it is about Pence. He is not running.

There is a very clear difference between Trump and Pence - and since the choice is between the two of them for the next 3 months (based on the hypothetical posed in the OP), Pence is far less dangerous than Trump.

[Ms. Toad]

108. Sorry - post 24, not the OP - speculation on Trump keeling over which started this sub-thread.

Plus a similar conversation I was having in a different thread about Trump negotiating terms of surrender (which would leave us with Pence)

All of my posts here have been focused on the difference between Trump and Pence, in response to the possibility of Trump keeling over.

Hence the comparison with people voting 3rd party because they see no difference between Biden and Trump - People responding to me (including you) have been insisting there is no difference between Trump and Pence.

One of those two will be running the country between Nov 4 and Jan 20: Trump - unless he keels over or negotiates a surrender. I see a clear difference in the danger to the country between Trump and Pence.

[LiberalFighter]

73. He is a slimey bastard. If he had stayed in Indiana he would had been history.

He was not good for us in Indiana.

[stopbush]

61. When the steroids wear off, the hate and ignorance kick in.

Rs are sustained by both.

[Ms. Toad]

64. Steroids just intensify whatever he's feeling -

so the hate (at least) should tone down as the intensifier wears off (which is what I was picking up on from the OP - moving toward blah-ness). I don't think they impact ignorance one way or another.

[Upthevibe]

91. Ms. Toad....

That's exactly what I was thinking. I saw a few minutes of him speaking and I've NEVER seen him so low energy. I'm thrilled. He's a horrible, horrible excuse for a human being.

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. well, he must still be recovering from that nasty hoax!

[dchill]

5. I gather he's also running late.

People are waiting at his next dog-whistle-stop.

[Kali]

10. I think he always does that

on purpose. power trip. he is an asshole above all else.

[dchill]

15. Possibly, but my eyes tell me he's already running on empty.

[Kali]

18. he looks and sounds worn out

I will give a small credit, I couldn't do what any of these folks do - multiple rallies in different places every day for weeks. ugh I get worn out going to the grocery store.

[dchill]

21. Me too, Kali. Me too.

[getagrip_already]

28. He isn't a normal traveler....

He literally has everything done for him. AF-1 is a friggin hotel where he can lounge and sleep and watch fox non-stop. They probably even have the ability to cook mcdonalds on board.

All he has to do is fall out of bed, get dressed, walk on stage speak, then walk back on the plane and leave.

Less work than walking the dog.

For someone like Joe or Kamella or a senate candidate - not so much. Every waking moment is work. Campaign details. Reporters. Supporters. Speech prep. Ad reviews.. endless work and drudgery all while stuffed into a vertical seat and eating cold food.

Two very different worlds.

[colorado_ufo]

42. And he doesn't even have to make any sense

All he does is replay some of his latest and greatest hits. I'm waiting for him to resurrect Mexico paying for the wall.

[getagrip_already]

43. he still talks about how jina is paying billions in tarrif's though.....

He just won't admit those billions are being paid by american consumers, not Chinese businesses or gov't.

[Kali]

46. oh I know, nothing like a normal person traveling

but it is still stress and I am sure he is freaked out about being a LOSER too

[Totally Tunsie]

77. Precisely. He's not juggling tickets and ID, hauling luggage,

and texting to make sure his ride is waiting. He's waited on hand and foot - doesn't even close an umbrella by himself.

He does sound like crap today, tho - very slow and tired or, as he says, "low energy". The pace must be getting to him.

Meanwhile, Joe is bringing it!

[yardwork]

87. That's a very good point. He's not actually leading the country or anything.

[SheltieLover]

41. Me too!

[RobinA]

52. I Couldn't Either

I saw Clinton in a New England town square rally on the Sunday night before the 1996 election. It was about 10p, he had come up the east coast that day making several stops. He was hoarse but the energy these guys can draw out of a crowd is incredible. And after doing it all day... I'd have cracked up months earlier. And Clinton gets to the airport, gets out of the limo, chewing and holding some snack food, and smiles, acknowledges the crowd, and appears to be enjoying himself! Not a job for an introvert

[Richard D]

59. Adderall helps. (nt)

[calimary]

68. Better living through chemistry...

[birdographer]

96. So do we!

But mostly because it is a lengthy process to dodge all the maskless trumpers. We go to a different aisle to avoid one, and practically run into two more, requiring a rapid 180 and off to another aisle. It takes FOREVER to get the relatively few things on the list!

[spanone]

6. Maybe we'll get to see him drop over like a rock

[DeminPennswoods]

13. Wouldn't that be something!

It would just be cherry on top for the year 2020.

[BKDem]

49. I doubt I've ever done anything good enough to deserve that.

It I’ll take it anyway.

[MyMission]

76. He'll keep going until he collapses

That was my first thought, then saw your post. But I hope it doesn't bring out the sympathy vote for him. Imagine, he's hospitalized on election day, the focus is on his health rather than the results.

Even if he has everything done for him as he travels, it's a grueling pace to keep for anyone, let alone someone still recovering from Covid.

Maybe he'll collapse after the election, when he feels the support he had seeping away, leaving him weak and rejected.

[Docreed2003]

7. I'll be sure to send him my

Tots and Pears...that right, isn't it??

[getagrip_already]

29. he probably loves to eat tots....

both tater and human. the pears probably not so much.

[LakeArenal]

30. Don't waste them tots. Mmmmmm. Crunchy.

[hatrack]

8. No stamina!!

[Boxerfan]

11. He's gone full melancholy

I coulda been a contender.... I coulda asked the banks to give me millions for my campaign & they would never say no.

He sounds like a sad drunk now.

[brush]

12. Keep going, trump. Keep going. The old fool must think he's still a young man to try...

to do four of these in one day (they're really running his ass into the ground).

All for naught though. He's a loser this time.

[dchill]

23. Adderall and steroids tell him he IS still a young man.

[58Sunliner]

86. The music from the YMCA has been shortened to repeat-"Young man...blah blah blah, young man, etc..

Pathetic.

[spinbaby]

14. Sedated?

He’s looked sedated for speeches and such in the past. Or maybe those good COVID drugs wore off.

[spooky3]

16. I thank him for his effort to keep Fly Head out of the Presidency

and to ensure a Big Blue Wave.

[jalan48]

17. No executive time on the campaign trail?

[TheCowsCameHome]

19. I really hope he doesn't collapse

unless it's on live TV, so everyone not attending can enjoy it.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

20. Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers.

[dchill]

25. Donald Trump, horta.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

27. The Devil in the Dark

Nice Catch!

[hlthe2b]

22. Yup... Aaron Rupar has a bit posted:

Link to tweet

[True Blue American]

100. Who let all these people in my basement, along with this

Should finish everything nicely.

[demmiblue]

31. Lol:

Link to tweet

[LakeArenal]

33. He said, "We are corrupt!" Freudian as hell.

[Elwood P Dowd]

35. He takes naps between stops....

[hedda_foil]

36. Wouldn't it be nice ...?

[C_U_L8R]

37. Steroids can't prop you up forever

He probably felt great for a couple of weeks but the crash is gonna be ugly

[WyattKansas]

38. You mean he's rougher sounding than his usual spewing of diarrhea out of his anus voicebox?

It would be funny if he completely lost his voice for the next week, especially since it is Election Week, and he was cut off from his personal fix of trying to act important.

[Boogiemack]

44. I had on CNN and he caught me listening to him for about 1 min. He sounds sick.

Maybe the drugs are wearing off. Switched to Forensic File then went back to CNN. Melania was speaking..I don't know why it took me about 30 to turn her off. Oh, I had to look for the remote.

[warmfeet]

45. K & R

I am quite alright with him not making it.

[machoneman]

47. Hey, worn out, tired, sick. Maybe he'll just keel over at the podium and......

Nawh, we couldn't get that lucky, now could we?

[bucolic_frolic]

50. All eyes on PA but

If Biden carries MN MI NC ME IA and NV, we're there assuming all the other 2016 states hold. That's even without PA and WI

So I'm as focused on NC ME IA and NV as I am PA and WI.

[FelineOverlord]

51. Just caught a bit of Trump's PA rally on CNN

He's completely overdoing it with these multiple rallies across multiple states in a few short days.

Especially if he really had COVID. And he's elderly and wildly out of shape.

Be a real shame if it catches up with him.

[onethatcares]

83. it would be better

if he doubled them up covid be damned.

[IronLionZion]

53. Thoughts and prayers

[cayugafalls]

56. Covid Comeback?

Please let America be saved from this madness.

[brooklynite]

58. At the end of the 1996 campaign, Bob Dole pledged to campaign non-stop...

...his voice gave out pretty quickly.

[paleotn]

63. He's running out of gas in the stretch.

Supposedly this has been the case for the last few days. And he can't lean on Pence since he's about as exciting as a tree stump.

[Tommymac]

65. I'm really so concerned.

[Ziggysmom]

67. SLEEPY Donald Trump! HA! 🥱😴🤤

[LiberalFighter]

69. They should add more rallies to his schedule this weekend.

Even if they are pretend ones.

[zackymilly]

70. If trump croaks before Tuesday, does his votes go to Pence? nt

[cilla4progress]

74. I think the technical term for this is

WHOMP WHOMP ...?

[58Sunliner]

78. Going through the motions.

[Xipe Totec]

81. A few days early, but... Tom Jones - 24 hours

[NNadir]

85. The sooner that man croaks the better, although I'd rather he croak in prison. n/t.

[Paper Roses]

88. Sounds like a concession speech. Hope so. n/t

[PatrickforO]

89. Sleepy Donald dozes off at the podium.

I'm glad he is degenerating. And after he loses by a landslide, he can look forward to a number of criminal indictments, trials, convictions and hopefully PRISON TIME.

[Vinca]

90. He could be having Covid part deux.

He's been all jacked up on steroids for weeks and come down is a bitch. Also, one of his miracle drugs has been pretty much panned since he left Walter Reed.

[Hulk]

93. His reputation and self-esteem are on the line.....

....and he doesn't deal well with losing. I hope he suffers the pains of hell in the near future...and for the rest of his miserable days. God knows, he deserves every bit of misery thrown his way.

[True Blue American]

95. The best is yet to come!

Trump is actually quoting Juniors girlfriend, hanging on the Podium like he is on his last legs!

[sandensea]

97. Sounds like Karen Pence will get her First Lady wish after all

If only for two months.

[Joinfortmill]

98. Covi crash

[Joinfortmill]

99. Covid crash

[Skittles]

101. he's older, out of shape and on a tough schedule

any sane person would not even attempt this nonsense but Trump if an extreme narcissist who NEEDS his fixes

I hope it HURTS; indeed I do.

[EleanorR]

102. I think he's just counting on the courts now and can't be bothered to exert himself

Link to tweet

[Blue Owl]

104. The Herman Cain timeline is on schedule