Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:50 AM

gab13by13 (16,355 posts)

Voting machines

The ownership of the voting machines that we vote on is pretty sketchy, to say the least.

Here is what bothers me. Ivanka, most likely, in Nov. of 2018 was given a trademark in China to manufacture voting machines.

So, you can see where I am going with this. Are we voting on machines that were manufactured by Ivanka Trump? I mean when Trump went ballistic about mail in voting that meant to me that less people will be voting by machine. The states are in charge of running their elections, if you get my drift.

I know we don't deal in conspiracy theories here but we can't even determine who owns the machines we vote on.

It came to my attention when we started having discrepancies in exit polling and actual results. No matter what Republicans say, exit polling is a good indicator of how people voted.

Of course Trump has made me paranoid, but I have never trusted electronic voting. The machine that I voted on had no paper trail and no means to do a recount.

Mail in ballots are paper ballots, much harder to cheat.

Am I just an old paranoid fool?

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8 replies	Author	Time	Post
Voting machines (Original post)	gab13by13	Oct 2020	OP
A blatant flaw in the theory is mail in ballots are scantron	DLCWIdem	Oct 2020	#1
Exit polling always worked until Karl Rove came along	Eliot Rosewater	Oct 2020	#2
I read an article a while back,	gab13by13	Oct 2020	#4
Follow Jennifer Cohn @jennycohn1 on twitter	rainin	Oct 2020	#3
So, do we know who owns our voting machines?	gab13by13	Oct 2020	#5
Yes. They're purchased and owned by localities, counties or states depending on relevant laws.	hedda_foil	Oct 2020	#6
I have wondered if we are being	Doreen	Oct 2020	#7
She only got the right to manufacture them in China -- not that she has or is manufacturing them.	hedda_foil	Oct 2020	#8

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:53 AM

DLCWIdem (1,470 posts)

1. A blatant flaw in the theory is mail in ballots are scantron

And runthrough the same machines.

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Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:54 AM

Eliot Rosewater (30,465 posts)

2. Exit polling always worked until Karl Rove came along

How can we find out if Ivanka’s in anyway connected to a single voting machine in this country I wonder

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:02 AM

gab13by13 (16,355 posts)

4. I read an article a while back,

so I don't remember where, that stated we don't know who the actual owners of the machines are. The owners are hidden in a twisted legal spider web.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:01 AM

rainin (2,975 posts)

3. Follow Jennifer Cohn @jennycohn1 on twitter

She's an election security advocate, writer, and attorney who has been tracking election security in depth.

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Response to rainin (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:03 AM

gab13by13 (16,355 posts)

5. So, do we know who owns our voting machines?

Thanks for the tip.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:22 AM

hedda_foil (16,158 posts)

6. Yes. They're purchased and owned by localities, counties or states depending on relevant laws.

The voting machine manufacturers sell them and sometimes contract with the government agency involved to provide technical support, though that support is most often provided by local contractors/private companies. Ivanka hasn't manufactured any voting machines.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:57 PM

Doreen (11,686 posts)

7. I have wondered if we are being

told that vanka manufactured voting machines to encourage people not to go vote because they figure it will not accept their vote they actually made.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:24 PM

hedda_foil (16,158 posts)

8. She only got the right to manufacture them in China -- not that she has or is manufacturing them.

I strongly doubt that many people are worried about that.

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