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Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:23 PM

Fmr Fed Prosecutor answers: Can Dump be tried for the COVID deaths he has caused?

Question from Meg #BidenHarris2020 (@mmmMeggie)

Q: I know you cannot answer everyone's questions yet could some attorney tell me is it possible to prosecute trump for all the death he has caused? COVID19 or the families separated from their babies ripped from being breast fed?

Answer from Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) - MSNBC Legal Analyst, Former 30-year federal prosecutor

A: Yes, my friend. As a former career homicide prosecutor I can tell you that Trumpís conduct fulfills all 3 legal elements of manslaughter. Evidence MUST be presented to a grand jury beginning in Jan. Indictments are sure to follow. For those lost & their families, #JusticeMatters

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Reply Fmr Fed Prosecutor answers: Can Dump be tried for the COVID deaths he has caused? (Original post)
fleur-de-lisa Oct 26 OP
Botany Oct 26 #1
lagomorph777 Oct 26 #6
sfstaxprep Oct 26 #2
efhmc Oct 26 #4
Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 27 #26
Post removed Oct 26 #3
malaise Oct 26 #5
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 26 #7
roamer65 Oct 26 #8
halobeam Oct 26 #9
Fiendish Thingy Oct 26 #10
crickets Oct 26 #20
TheRickles Oct 26 #11
bucolic_frolic Oct 26 #12
moof Oct 26 #13
Ponietz Oct 26 #16
csziggy Oct 26 #17
certainot Oct 26 #14
patphil Oct 26 #15
Eid Ma Clack Shaw Oct 26 #19
patphil Oct 26 #24
SayItLoud Oct 26 #18
Illumination Oct 26 #21
gibraltar72 Oct 26 #22
progressoid Oct 26 #23
Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 27 #27
Blue Owl Oct 26 #25

Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:25 PM

1. Evidence MUST be presented to a grand jury beginning in Jan. Indictments are sure to follow.

Glenn Kirchner for A.G..

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:49 PM

6. +1 Kirschner is part of a citizens' project to clean up McConnell's judiciary.

He'd be good for prosecuting these assholes too.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:25 PM

2. If That's True, Better Question Is WILL He Be Tried?

I sincerely doubt there's the slightest chance he'll be held accountable for a single death.

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Response to sfstaxprep (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:38 PM

4. I agree.

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Response to sfstaxprep (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 07:05 AM

26. Unfortunately, I share your skepticism.

But, damnit, I we still need to demand it. We need to make a lot of noise for the record.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:46 PM

5. Lock him the fuck up

That is all

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:51 PM

7. not all ...

He should be fitted with a shock collar. Every time someone gets COVID-19, trumPutin gets a shock; double for each death. Retroactive, too, of course.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:52 PM

8. He should be tried at The Hague for GENOCIDE.

Tell me how different he is from Milosevic, Pol Pot or other genocidists.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:54 PM

9. This! n/t

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:07 PM

10. Two Words: Independent Prosecutor. Nt

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:41 PM

20. +1000000

Screw his self-pardon or any attempt at pardon from Pence. No part of the Executive branch should be allowed to pardon itself. We need to close that loophole as well while we're at it.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:08 PM

11. Anybody know what those three legal elements of manslaughter are?

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:11 PM

12. Glen Kirschner is warming up in the bull pen

Give him the ball!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:19 PM

13. isn't a civil lawsuit the way to go ?

At what seems like conservative figures, 200,000 thousand deaths x one million dollars per case = 200 billion dollars.

Lets see just how far his fortune goes toward compensating families of his victims.

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Response to moof (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:31 PM

16. Civil suits will surely follow convictions

Criminal convictions make civil suits slam dunks.

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Response to moof (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:33 PM

17. Since it seems Trump is in the red, civil lawsuits might never pay off

Of course, if they win they can attach future earnings so he and his family could never dig their way out of their current hole. There is a nice thought!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:25 PM

14. trump coordinates with limbaug, who led the effort too call it a hoax and then downplay

it's severity and danger. media needs to assume that was the plan from the start. even if trump pretended to fight it in his own insipid and incompetent way limbaugh/talk radio continued with the same plan and would not have without trump/white house guidance.

all those blowhards and radio stations who shouted HOAX in the covid theater need to go to jail.

in 2014 republicans won 9 senate seats by hyping ebola scares in oct - then it all ended after the election.

they learned - pandemics bring out the frightened authoritarian vote and americans have to assume someone convinced idiot trump that COVID could do the same for him. we have to assume he's purposefully spreading it with his rallies. as cases skyrocket and pressure builds to close things down and if he's got a plan to stay in office he will use the national emergency to facilitate it

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:26 PM

15. Yes! What Trump has done is deliberate negligent homicide.

The sad part is that he would have been deemed a hero if he took decisive action and actually lead the country through the pandemic instead of pretending it was "fake news", and continually downplaying the seriousness of the situation.
For him it was always something that was messing up his economic numbers; causing the stock market to fall, raising the unemployment rate.
The toll in human lives and suffering never entered into it for him. And it still doesn't to this day.

Most of the deaths we have endured could have been prevented if he had simply told people the truth about Covid-19...a truth he always knew.

Lock him up!

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Response to patphil (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:40 PM

19. Regardless of everything that he's done before, if Trump had taken this seriously

and embraced masks, lockdowns and so forth, he could have engineered an easy re-election. He could have been upfront about the need to take an economic hit in order to protect lives, and people would have understood.

Instead, his reaction has proved beyond a doubt that despite his all-consuming desperation to stay in the White House, his malignancy is so deeply rooted that it impossible for him to act decently even for nakedly political reasons.

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Response to Eid Ma Clack Shaw (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 07:45 PM

24. Trump's lack of comprehension of the situation is amazing isn't it?

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:39 PM

18. tRUMP will never see the inside of a jail UNLESS it's to visit his kids.

He will pardon himself or Pence will. They will pardon all the kids (and Hope Hicks), if one of the States does get him and he's convicted and sentenced it will be to "house arrest"....His legal residence? Mar-A-Lago...some house arrest!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:49 PM

21. I don't miss a chance to view Glenn's videos! Have learned a lot watching them. Would imagine

 

that Trump is not the Lone Ranger when it comes to manslaughter. He's had lots of accomplices...

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:53 PM

22. I want this guy back in DOJ.

He has a plan for every God Damn traitor to America.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 05:07 PM

23. Fat chance.

Has he been asleep for the last 4 years? The law seems to be optional in today's America.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 27, 2020, 07:08 AM

27. For Rs.

It's still mandatory for Ds. In fact, we might be about to learn that Ds can be prosecuted for imaginary crimes.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:15 PM

25. First tRump has to infect the court

n/t

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