The Lincoln Project: Men (Sam Elliott again!)

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[Gothmog]

1. Great ad

[DownriverDem]

44. repubs hate those on our side

They never question why their side sucks.

[BKDem]

2. Go ahead, all you toxic assholes.

Argue against that.

[NurseJackie]

14. I have no doubt that we'll hear from at least ONE.

(Sigh.)

[groundloop]

42. I can be a toxic asshole at times (according to my wife).... but that's a great ad

[mcar]

3. Another great one. Nt

[Newest Reality]

4. Great! Rec.

That was deeply touching and significant.

[Happy Hoosier]

5. Damn..... that's good.

Outstanding work.

[grobertj]

6. To me, that's the best yet from the Lincoln Project.

When this is all over, the Dems need to hire the folks responsible for these ads.

[catbyte]

7. No kidding. Their ad campaign is a masterclass on how to craft an effective message. I'm glad

they're on our side.

[Statistical]

12. I worry for the day when they are not.

TLP does create some amazing ads. Usually I tune out of most political ads even Democratic ads. They are frankly boring and cookie cutter. TLP makes some good ads, ads that are easy to go viral.

I hope someone in some left leaning agency someone is taking good notes.

[DownriverDem]

46. One thing Rick Wilson has said

is that they will never work for repubs again.

[livetohike]

8. Okay, crying now (again). Powerful. n/t

[calimary]

18. Yep. Choked up too, right there with ya.

Glad these Lincoln Project folks are on our side.











For now.

[COL Mustard]

33. Not Me. Nope...

But I wish someone would stop cutting onions around here!


Great, super effective ad!

[mtngirl47]

49. Yep--Needs a warning about leaking eyes! n/t

[Wounded Bear]

9. K & R...nt

[LittleGirl]

10. Very good ad! Thanks! eom

[CaptYossarian]

11. Very laid back ad.

The in-your-face stuff doesn't always work. This is highly effective and they found the right actor.

[Auggie]

13. Awesome research is going into these latest ads

Madison Avenue, even at its all-time best, couldn’t do better. Outstanding spot.

[George II]

15. If there's ever an award show for political ads, The Lincoln Project would sweep them all!

[gademocrat7]

16. Absolutely great ad

[colsohlibgal]

17. These Folks Are Awesome

Maybe this will pull back a few to land back into reality.

[niyad]

19. Very good ad, and I understand its messaging. But the sexism bothers me. As though

courage, honour, doing the right thing, owning up to mistakes, are strictly masculine traits.

[catbyte]

22. I see your point, but I think it's targeted at the white men without a college degree who are still

sticking with trump. We women are onto him at record levels; men, not so much as they should. Shame them into thinking.

[maddiemom]

57. On second thought, that was my impression as to whom it was directed.

At first I thought "kinda sexist," but then again, since it's Sam Elliot, all is forgiven. Over all, it's a great ad!

[whathehell]

74. U.S.men of all the races voted for Trump in much higher numbers

than their female counterparts, so I'd say it was targeting all of them.

Post election surveys showed 13 % of Black men and 38 % of Hispanic males voted for Trump in 2016.

[SMC22307]

85. It's targeting ALL men since they favored Trump in 2016.

Maybe this ad will get some of them thinking -- at least the undecideds. Who knows what motivates people, but the Lincoln Project isn't leaving any stones unturned.

[Lock him up.]

24. It targets magats who may see themselves in it (a lil bit).

Democratic women voters don't need to be reminded those values.

[BannonsLiver]

30. Sigh

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. It's targeted, especially at those who may have voted for Trump last time

which was more men than women. They've also had ads targeted more at women (you could say this is at parents, but I think it's also partly "Trump is saying these things about you" ): https://lincolnproject.us/video/mirror/

[Delmette2.0]

54. I agree.

I have my own story to tell but not now.

[Upthevibe]

61. niyad.....

I politely disagree. In fact, that's what makes it so perfect....it's completely targeted, by design, toward the macho men types....Riding the horses, fishing with your son, and many other scenes.

TLP put an ad out recently targeted towards woman regarding their daughters...

I think they're spot on....

[ms liberty]

70. It isn't sexist if the ad is targeted to the men who voted for the Orange One in 2016

Which is what I understood it to be after listening and watching it. This ad was squarely aimed at men who voted R in 2016. It was all right there in the script.

[niyad]

71. You apparently missed the part where I said it was a great ad. The group it is aimed at is

appallingly sexist and misogynistic.

[ms liberty]

72. Yes, they are very much that. My apologies, I must have misread your post!

[niyad]

73. Not a problem.

[redwitch]

81. The ad is meant for men who voted for trump in '16

And the ones who can be persuaded to not do it in ‘20.

[SMC22307]

82. Unreal, sexism lurking in every corner.

The ad isn't suggesting that at all. It's specifically targeting men - the voting bloc that favors Trump over Biden. Women aren't being attacked, slighted, whatever.

[niyad]

84. Nice way to miss the point.

[SMC22307]

86. Whut? That, as a woman, I don't feel discriminated against...

or made to feel inferior by that ad? The ad is in no way, shape, or form suggesting that the positive traits you laid out above are masculine only.

[Squinch]

92. That's its genius. I didn't have the same emotional response

as many others in the thread (despite the fact that I was blessed with a wonderful dad.)

But I do get great and sly satisfaction from its perfect pitch at the men who think they are the guardians of American virtues but who nevertheless voted for a racist, sexist imbecile.

The ad is manipulation, but it is perfect manipulation to appeal to that guy.

Genius.

[yardwork]

93. Of course. The ad is aimed at conservative men who voted for Trump in 2016.

This ad is intended for people who believe in patriarchal myths. The message resonates with millions of Americans who usually vote Republican because of those myths. These are the people who voted for Trump because they thought he embodied those myths.

It's a brilliant ad because it speaks directly to what motivates that set of voters.

It's also a very illuminating window into the beliefs of the leaders of the Lincoln Project. These life-long Republican White men supported Trump because he sold himself to them as the embodiment of that patriarchal myth. They're upset that he turned out to be a con. But there's no indication that they are questioning the mythology itself.

[niyad]

94. Thank you so much!

[yardwork]

95. It's actually a huge concern that this is our most cherished American myth.

We sound un-American when we question the myths underlying this tear-inducing ad. Even I teared up. But these are myths, and they serve us poorly in so many ways.

[niyad]

96. Exactly so.

[usedtobedemgurl]

20. This house is so damn dusty!!! nt

[Sherman A1]

21. KnR

[Johnny2X2X]

23. Thay are saving their best stuff for last

This was like watching a movie.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

25. Another really good one.

Lincoln Project's talent for hitting the mark is amazing.

[PatrickforO]

26. Outstanding. I really like Sam Elliot. He was great in Tombstone.

And We Were Soldiers. And a number of other things.

But most recently, I remember "Guts, Glory, RAM."

He's an icon, and from all reports is actually a really decent guy.

[Staph]

53. And he's also Smoky Bear!

[PatSeg]

27. Very moving ad

[Peacetrain]

28. I have had a crush on Sam Elliot for over forty years..

I love that voice, and craggy face.. I married a man who looks very much like him.. To be honest I married Mr Peacetrain before I got this never ending crush on Sam.. so guess its my crush on Mr Peacetrain that leads the way Such a great ad..

[MontanaMama]

29. Damn.

What a good ad. The LP ads that target emotion are their best work, imho. Attack ads, while they are reportedly effective, wear thin for me.

[Thekaspervote]

31. Great great ad!!

[Paper Roses]

32. Best yet. n/t

[Faygo Kid]

34. Grew up without a Dad. This is very moving.

I am, however, a Dad myself. Great ad.

[Cosmocat]

50. Ditto

Speaks to me big time, and I suspect a lot of people like us.

[Alhena]

35. My favorite Sam Elliott scene - video

[Faygo Kid]

59. An enthusiastic +1.

Great performance. Great film.

[Le Roi de Pot]

36. Emotion is what wins people over .. not logic of policies

Republicans know this so well ... We are too prefrontal cortex driven

[AwakeAtLast]

37. Spectacular!

[onetexan]

39. hic hic...i had tears in my eyes, not because of Biden

but because of Sam Elliott's beautiful voice!!

Love that guy. So glad he did this ad for TLP.

[Upthevibe]

62. onetexan....

Willie on Morning Joe said he'd enjoy listening to Sam Elliott read a phone book and I completely agree....

[onetexan]

64. Big Lebowski LOL

Dude abides..sure 'nough Yes i do agree he can read anything & it w sound like good music to my ears. I love all his movies, esp'ly the westerns

[Native]

40. Targeting the one group Trump seems to be holding onto - this ad is perfection.

[Traildogbob]

41. Hero

By “Family of the Year” is one of my fav songs. This makes it better. Now every time I hear it on my list, I will think of those images, and think of hope and possibilities.
I will put this up against any Trump add with Macho Man and Trump dancing.
Check out “ Summer Girl” by Family of the Year also. Great band.

[liberalla]

43. Admitting a mistake is SO difficult for some people...

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You have SO much invested in your belief, decision and action... and it's hard to admit you were wrong.

Then comes much revered, manly man Sam Elliott telling you it's OK to admit your mistake, and how you can fix it! Giving you permission to change your mind!

I think this ad is wonderful! And I think it will help shift some votes.

I love it!

[TexasBushwhacker]

55. It really is difficult

Especially if you've been Republican all your life.

Especially if you are religious and your church worships Trump.

[Mollyann]

45. Dads

This ad was very moving for me. It made me wish my dad had been a dad like Joe. The one I had had a character much like Trump's. I tried to raise my boys to be the total opposite of that and I was fortunate to have succeeded. All three have voted for Biden and the two with children are great fathers.

[Raster]

47. Out. Of. The. Park.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

48. Given that white men so overwhelmingly voted for Trump

four years ago, they can take collective blame.

[question everything]

51. Sadly. farmers still support him

About two months into the Trump presidency, Ron Prestage clutched a shovel and grinned at a photographer on an Iowa cornfield. He had $309 million riding on 160 acres near the town of Eagle Grove, the site of a future pork plant that would help his family’s company, Prestage Farms Inc., tap surging U.S. exports.

Just weeks after bulldozers began rolling, though, President Trump came within a pen stroke of upending Mr. Prestage’s plans, preparing to announce the termination of the North American Free Trade Agreement. Trade battles with Mexico, Canada and China that followed cut into pork-producer profits in a three-year roller-coaster ride that threatened the Prestage family’s biggest-ever investment.

Yet Mr. Prestage plans to vote for Mr. Trump as he did in 2016. He and many other farmers say they believe a Biden presidency would bring stricter environmental regulations and higher taxes, among other concerns. Many are in competitive Midwestern states that might tip the election.

A September poll by agricultural publication Farm Futures found 75% of farmers surveyed in July planned to vote for Mr. Trump, compared with 72.6% ahead of the 2016 election.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/farmers-election-trump-biden-trade-war-11602693377 (subscription)

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58. Arrgh. So they are fine with "socialism" just as long as it benefits them, right?

[SMC22307]

87. Maybe not some Pennsylvania farmers... and we desperately need Pennsyvlania.

Link to tweet

?lang=en

[BobTheSubgenius]

52. It is an excellent ad.

However, it's going to be REALLY hard to ever top the previous one. TLP's finest hour, and maybe the best political ad there's ever been.

[madeup64]

56. Great ad

[Upthevibe]

60. catbyte....

Thank you for posting. I just saw this on twitter and am in tears. This is beautiful...Wow....Perfect message, perfect visuals, perfect music, and Sam Elliott...who's a level above perfection...

[BusyBeingBest]

63. Wonderful--always liked this song too.

[Pepsidog]

65. Wow.

[Hassler]

66. Once again, when Sam Elliott is doing the voiceover, it's a winner ad.

[FuzzyRabbit]

67. They captured my father's character perfectly

other than the religious part. Dad did not go to church, but his integrity and goodness put most churchgoing people I know to shame. He was the most thoughtful and responsible person I ever knew. I try to live up to his example, but miss the mark sometimes.

Of course he wasn't perfect, but he more than made up for that with the good that he did.

[Paladin]

68. Outstanding ad. I love it that we have Sam Elliott. (nt)

[fishwax]

69. good stuff

[JDC]

75. F'in A. Great ad

[warmfeet]

76. I did vote for Joe, and for Kamala.

I voted for Hillary in 2016.

Neither fortune nor torture would ever get me to vote for the current imbecile.

I appreciate the zeitgeist of the message, but it is directed at an entirely different audience than DU.

[nuxvomica]

77. Man, that got to me

I miss my dad.

[luvallpeeps]

78. BABY RIGHT ON!

Yes, I meant to yell. Byah! I'll have to add though, Sam Elliott could say he has shit between his toes, and it would sound excellent.

[SunSeeker]

79. That needed a Hanky Alert!

[lunatica]

80. That's profound.

Straight to the heart.

[ornotna]

83. That was kickass

wow

[CaliforniaPeggy]

88. That brought goosebumps! Wow, Sam Elliott. You seriously rock. n/t

[geardaddy]

89. I have something in my eye.

I miss my dad. He would be appalled at this shit show. My mom is 89 and hates Dingus Turd.

[BootinUp]

90. Sam Elliot is great at this stuff, and the writing is not bad either!

[Silver Gaia]

91. I sobbed for 5 minutes.

I miss my Daddy so much.

[better]

97. I'm not crying, YOU'RE crying (and other assorted bs) - nt

[Maru Kitteh]

98. Oh my god that's OUTSTANDING.