WHAT ARE WE PREPARED TO DO WHEN THEY STEAL THE ELECTION?

[montanacowboy]

Now Rmoney is running around saying he will WIN Pennsylvania

Pretty big charge for someone down 10-12 points, and not only in PA but in all the swing states

Is it another 2000 and 2004 when they stole our election and we let them have it?

I really am soul searching and asking myself, will we allow it to happen another time?

THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN WIN THIS ELECTION IS IF THEY CHEAT AND STEAL IT THROUGH THEIR CORRUPT REPUBLICAN STATE ADMINISTRATIONS - CORRUPT SECRETARIES OF STATE, FLIPPING VOTE MACHINES, AND ON AND ON.

[33Greeper]

1. Not to worry but still GOTV

Obama has 83% chance of winning according to Nate Silver. Cited 47% Boca Vid as reason.

[robinlynne]

11. GOTV may put obama in office, but only obama. GOTV instead of honest elections has been

the dem motto, and you may win one once in a while, but that's it. The process of protecting democracy is rather important. The right wing supreme court and the congress are but 2 examples of get out the vote instead of counting the votes.

[liberal N proud]

2. The Democrats had better fight it this time.

[AndyTiedye]

21. 5-4

It goes to the Supreme Court. Game Over.

[budkin]

3. Listen to the media say...

I guess the polls really were skewed!

[Waltons_Mtn]

4. I agree. The only way they will will is if the cheat.

I believe that this is why we are having the "polls are skewed" conversation. That are trying to put doubt into peoples minds so that when then steal a State or two, they will say, "look the polls were biased and our counting machines get it right see." And enough people will say, "OK maybe the polls were biased." Then they can continue looting this country.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. What Did You Expect That Clown To Say?

"We're getting our asses handed to us."

[montanacowboy]

8. I don't expect him to say anything at all

unless he is cock sure something is up

remember how sure Bush the lesser was that he had won Florida even after they had called it for Gore? He KNEW the fix was in.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. "Does the rubber nose and 24" shoes make my ass look big"

[Cha]

36. Yeah, everything that comes out of his mouth is a

LIE. He's sociopathic..a pathological LIAR.

Not saying they don't plan on trying to steal it though..of course they do. It worked for bush didn't it? But, we do have the Obama Team now..so we're gonna see.

[HopeHoops]

6. Sadly, "leave" might be the best option. The other option involves massive casualties.

There's no way he can legitimately win, and even the USSC has to know that. They can't pull a shrub move with this one and still have a shred of credibility left.

[gateley]

7. I'm thinking the Obama team is ready for this.

[JNelson6563]

10. Here's what we do to PREVENT it.

We (local Dem party) schedule poll watchers. People at every location and most of them are lawyers who donate their services for the day. Any problems arise we have legal help on hand to help solve problem on the spot or call in official help and sound the alarm.

Of course this takes work and organization but we think it's worth the effort. I wish everyone did this, then we wouldn't have these problems.

Julie

[Scuba]

13. Julie, you must have better eyesight than I, 'cause I can't see what goes on inside ....

... those damned machines.

I believe the correct answer is "paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling".

[JNelson6563]

34. We have paper ballots in my part of the world.

[Scuba]

35. All clear to me now, thanks!!!

[JNelson6563]

40. I should also add

I would guess many places do. There are a lot of smaller communities out there that can't afford the "upgrade".

Ballots aside there are other issues like voter intimidation, voters being refused the right to vote. With so many new voter ID laws in place there are likely to be on the rise and what we do in my county would be a good way to address these.

Julie

[BumRushDaShow]

12. He really said no such thing here in PA

"We really would shock people if early in the evening of Nov. 6 it looked like Pennsylvania was going to come our way and actually did come our way. That can happen," Romney told about 200 donors who paid as much as $50,000 to attend the fund-raiser."

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20120928_Romney_attends_fund-raiser_in_Philadelphia.html

He knows it's wisful thinking.

[brooklynite]

14. I'm prepared to ignore people YELLING conspiracy theories...

...except to point out that politicians NEVER acknowledge that they're losing.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

15. Minority voter suppression schemes...

...will be helpful to them, but not enough to turn it Mitt's way -- key swing states, Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania to name three, will have to be veritable e-vote flipping extravaganzas (ala Chimpy in '04) on election night if Mittens is to be installed as our next POTUS.

[AndyTiedye]

20. Who Can Forget 2004?

key swing states, Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania to name three, will have to be veritable e-vote flipping extravaganzas (ala Chimpy in '04) on election night if Mittens is to be installed as our next POTUS.

It is pretty obvious that they intend to do exactly that this year in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, at least.
Teabaggers control the state houses and legislature in all of those states. They will be counting the votes.

[zappaman]

16. I'll do what Al Gore did when it happened to him!

Nothing.

[Ikonoklast]

17. The Romney camp is just whistling past the graveyard on this one.

The candidate HAS to lie, or his supporters will just figure, "Eff him, he already said he's toast, I'll just stay home on Tuesday."

I would give a pretty penny to see the Romney internal polling numbers, they have to be catastrophic since the stench of doom coming off of them is almost palpable.


In all reality, for all intents and purposes, they have two weeks now.

Fourteen days.

That's it.

After the second debate, they will be in full panic mode.

Mark it.

[Cha]

37. Right...they'd stop sending MONEY. nt

[kctim]

18. Hopefully prove it this time

If can't be proven, then will be just the normal making of excuses, creating conspiracy theories and threats to move to another country.

[KansDem]

19. I suppose we could send a "sternly-worded letter"

Isn't that usually the Dem response in matters like this?

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Can you show me quotes from McCain where he was saying he will LOSE in Sep last

cycle? No, you can't because poiticians always say they are going to win. Just saying. Of course Mitt says he'll win. Crimeny.

[Kindly Refrain]

23. March on D.C.?

[WilliamPitt]

24. NOT SURE, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY WRITE ABOUT IT IN ALL CAPS

Because that always works.

[cali]

25. of course he's saying that. it's standard campaign pablum.

The campaign was not stolen in 2004.


I hate this kind of hysteria.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

29. No one cares about stolen campaigns

The election in 2000 was stolen...Jeb and his Sec't of State Katherine Harris heavily purged the voter rolls, closed polling places without notice and without giving any information about where voters needed to go... everyone focuses on the Palm Beach County, Hanging Chad fiasco.... I remember seeing an interview of George on an airplane shortly before the election. He was asked about FL which was trending blue...He said 'I'm not worried about FL, Jeb has FL under control." I realized just what he was talking about when I went to bed thinking Gore had won and woke up to find the Shrub was going to be the new president.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. FIX OUR CAPS LOCK BUTTON

[Sekhmets Daughter]

30. I have to disable my caps lock button whenever I gt a new keyboard

It drives me wild when I have caps in the middle of a word or half a sentence is in all caps....

[leftstreet]

27. WhY wOUld ThEY sTEaL iT ?

Why would they want to be in charge in the midst of crushing austerity blows?

They'll wait and run Jeb Bush in four years

[Sekhmets Daughter]

31. Remember the Citizen United ruling?

That ruling would never have happened without Alito and Roberts...The next 4 years could see as many as 4 new appointments to the court...and probably at least 2....

Republicans have been playing a very strategic long game...and the SCOTUS is a very lsrge part of it.

[leftstreet]

38. The Alito and Roberts those Dem senators confirmed?

please....

[silvershadow]

28. I will jump to your defense and say:

It's not too early to think long and hard about it. I suppose we will find out about the soul of our party and our nation. (I will reserve my reasons for now, but I worry. Too much worry gets you accused of being a professional hand-wringer and concern troll around these parts...parts I have traveled since inception of DU) K&R for the fact that they do this stuff right out in the open.

[Fire Walk With Me]

32. Occupy like never before.

[sellitman]

33. That's why it has to be a landslide like last time.

I think Obama won by even more than what the numbers show.

[treestar]

39. WE WILL CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKIN' THEN!!!!!!!

[socialist_n_TN]

41. That's an interesting question and one I've thought about too.......

It would have to be BLATANTLY obvious for some on here to not blame it on a "conspiracy theory". It depends on whether that meme wins the day or not.

I've always found it interesting that the official Democratic response to outright election fraud is GOTV. It's like they're OK with electoral fraud, they just think they can overcome it with numbers. What happens when even numbers don't work anymore? After all, when you let someone get away with something, it's no big deal to go on to the next step. IOW, they'll continue to do it EVEN MORE BLATANTLY until they're stopped. Do you still just ignore it and blame Nader?

[AndyTiedye]

42. It WAS Blatantly Obvious in 2000 and 2004

We tried to do something about it, but in every case the courts were on their side.

Trying to overcome election fraud with numbers is the only option left.

[socialist_n_TN]

43. I mean blatantly obvious like John McCain........

coming out and condemning it. Or admitting it.

I'm a communist. Overcoming election fraud with numbers means something different to me. What do you do when even the numbers won't overcome election fraud?

[Atticus]

44. I am sure there will be a lot of "thoughtful" responses to this. Some will simply avoid the problem

posed by the OP---"We must PREVENT the theft of this election!"---and some will propose legal action to correct the injustice.
If these are all we're willing to do, don't bother. Just don't bother.

If we aren't willing to clog the streets with hundreds of thousands of indignant mad-as-hell American citizens---if we are not willing to butt heads with the baggers and the riot police---if we are not ready to shut it all down and DEMAND meaningful recounts and prosecution of ALL who participated in the theft, from Rove on down---then don't bother posting about your indignation and your outrage. Don't bother calling yourself a liberal or a progressive or a Democrat because, by your cowardice and your apathy, you will have agreed that none of that shit really means anything.

[AndyTiedye]

45. How Can We Fight When the Candidates Concede?

[cbrer]

46. NO that's not the only way.

I'm afraid of a false flag attack.

That will scare enough voters to actually put the stench into office. Our nations economic masters are not above such tactics.

[juajen]

47. I've been thinking the same thing myself,

I do see differences, however small. Obama and his team seem to be highly organized, so I do not believe this will be a surprise. He is handling everything that's thrown his way. He has excellent help from the Clintons, his wife and staff; so, I am hoping that he has a plan. The Chicago machine is alive and kicking, and I have to say, for the first time, I am very glad we have some meanies who can think like Karl Rove, Norquist, etc. Though slowly, I have come to appreciate his chess moves and downright brilliance when it comes to these stubborn and vicious monkeys. I also find it amazing that lately even my very conservative best friend and sister, have succumbed to his charm. Don't know if it will change their votes, but they now admire our President's statesmanship, and Michelle's charm and brilliance. Honestly, these two, nor their family ever make a mistake.

So, I am worried also, but I honestly think they will pull it off. I am hoping and praying that they will be well protected, as well as the Bidens and the Clintons. I don't think I have every seen a time when we were more cohesive as a party and so respected all over the world and full of stars and beautiful people. I am very proud of all of them, and, many that I have not enumerated. Our stars are shining brightly, while their's are flickering.