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Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:56 PM

What are the legal options if you feel intimidated by RW poll watchers?

I'm in a very rural area. I wouldn't be surprised if I ran into a Trumper Bubba with an open carry gun at my town hall on Nov 3.

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Reply What are the legal options if you feel intimidated by RW poll watchers? (Original post)
NickB79 Oct 17 OP
Beachnutt Oct 17 #1
LizBeth Oct 17 #2
BKDem Oct 17 #3
BigmanPigman Oct 17 #4
blueinredohio Oct 17 #11
BigmanPigman Oct 17 #12
blueinredohio Oct 17 #15
BigmanPigman Oct 17 #17
MagickMuffin Oct 17 #13
blueinredohio Oct 17 #14
MagickMuffin Oct 17 #18
Sherman A1 Oct 17 #5
mn9driver Oct 17 #6
Jirel Oct 17 #7
wryter2000 Oct 17 #10
Ohioboy Oct 17 #8
wryter2000 Oct 17 #9
mcar Oct 17 #16
Botany Oct 18 #19
MineralMan Oct 18 #20
Niagara Oct 18 #21

Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:59 PM

1. Be sure you get good video of them with a face view.

just in case.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:00 PM

2. I have been asking, too. I should be able to call cops, tell them I want to vote and I do not feel

safe with guns. I want them there to make sure I am safe to vote. I have the legal right and they are stopping me.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:01 PM

3. I believe you would be entitled to tell him to fuck off.

If he threatens you in any way, Id call 911. You will have witnesses.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:02 PM

4. I am glad I don't live there!

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When I hear of states announcing that a "no guns a the polls rule applies this year" I look at my TV and my mouth drops open in astonishment. That seems like a different planet to me. I can't even wear a pin to my polls. A gun?!? That is insane!!!!! I have no idea how to handle a situation like that except to mail it in early or wear body armor to the polls.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 08:20 PM

11. I live in a very red area but when I voted early the other day

a poll worker told a guy before he came in that he couldn't wear his hat(don't know if it was a maga hat or not but I'm guessing yes). The guy said that's bull. The poll worker said its been that way since the 1800s and still is. The guy took his hat off.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 08:24 PM

12. That's an interesting rule.

I wonder if this is a fashion/respect thing? They don't allow guns, do they?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:56 PM

15. I guess it was because the hat was political. He had taken it off by the time he came in.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 10:14 PM

17. That makes sense.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 08:24 PM

13. Poll Watchers ARE NOT to speak to any voters.


If they see something they are to notify the presiding election judge.

At least in Texas this is the LAW. They are there to observe only. No interference, no intimidation, no watching over voters shoulders.

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:54 PM

14. It wasn't a poll watcher it was a poll worker

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 10:16 PM

18. Okay, I see that now, in Texas we generally are referred to as clerks


Thanks for the clarification.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:08 PM

6. There are hotlines set up.

... If you think youre encountering or witnessing voter intimidation, call the Election Protection Hotline at 866-OUR-VOTE (866-687-8683) to get voting help from a trained election protection volunteer....

https://campaignlegal.org/update/what-do-if-you-encounter-voter-intimidation

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:12 PM

7. Go vote early, however your state does that.

There are no bubbas so dedicated that they will organize daily poll interference. Bubbas are great at blowing their mouths off and maybe showing up with their nazi flag of choice and phallic overcompensation device for a few hours... once...

Likelihood of Bubba actually at the polls on 11/3 - small.

Likelihood of Bubba there during the early voting season - negligible.

Vote early, then volunteer on 11/3 to take others to the polls, and if necessary use the Georgetown recommendations (https://www.law.georgetown.edu/icap/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2020/10/Voter-Intimidation-Fact-Sheet.pdf) to help OTHERS who still need to vote on 11/3.

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Response to Jirel (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:25 PM

10. There were some at early voting in VA

I'd go really early in the morning, though.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:16 PM

8. What do gun carrying poll watchers think they will be able to do?

Do they think they'll be able to spot some kind of voter fraud and stop it with their gun?

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:24 PM

9. The dem party probably has a voter helpline

I'm working one in NC. Call the dem party and ask for the number. Poll workers should help, though.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:59 PM

16. Poll watcher are inside and can't carry weapons

Nor can they even speak to anyone except the precinct clerk.

Outside, there can be poll observers. They cannot get within 150 feet of a polling place. I guess the open carry laws are different in each state so you'd have to check that.

Look up the Voter Protection Hotline in your state - contact your state or local Democratic party to get information about their local voter protection efforts. Even in my very red county, we will have a team of lawyers on hand to deal with issues.

Call 911. It is illegal to intimidate voters at a polling place.

Take video.

Do not approach them yourself - especially if they are armed.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:07 AM

19. I have done election protection work for years:

1 this just bluster .... they really can't do shit.

2. On the very small chance you have a gun toting Bubba
call the cops. It is illegal to hinder anybody from voting and nobody is allowed to speak to a voter inside of 100' of the front door.

3. Get a picture and a license plate # too.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:53 AM

20. Just look past them and go in and vote.

Ignore them completely. They're not going to attack or threaten any individual who is going to vote. If they do, call 911 and report that immediately.

Few of those morons are actually going to show up at polling places. Very few. Just ignore them and go in and vote. Don't engage with them in any way. Just walk past them.

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Response to NickB79 (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:24 PM

21. From ACLU

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