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Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:26 PM

The 'wet laptop' story absolutely is a scandal, but it has nothing to do with Joe Biden

An official in a foreign country stumbles on a briefcase left behind by his opposing number from another delegation. Sneaking a peak at the information inside, the official discovers that it contains not only the usual stacks of diplomatic reports, but secret information providing insight into an upcoming military operation. Immediately, the official rushes this information to his superiors who … have just fallen into one of the most timeworn traps of intelligence tradecraft. The “accidently” left-behind wallet, briefcase, or letter is an absolute classic of Soviet-era dezinformatsiya schemes.

In the argot of spies, a “cobbler” assembles a dezinformatsiya packet, accompanied by more truthful “litter” and “chicken feed” that makes it appear as if a deceptive document is real. If possible, the information is left where it’s handily accessible to the target of the dezinformatsiya campaign, but a special purpose “floater” may be used to pass the information along—often without that person understanding their role in the scheme.

Now, substitute “hard drive” for “briefcase” and “email” for “document.” Because that’s exactly what happened on Wednesday as the New York Post ran a story about a soggy computer left behind by a mysterious stranger at a Delaware repair shop. That computer was supposed to kick off a scandal about Hunter Biden. But what it really proves is that Rudy Giuliani and Rupert Murdoch are neck-deep in a scheme to spread disinformation to the American public.

That the story of this left behind computer ran in the New York Post on Wednesday isn’t the sign of a successful disinformation campaign—it’s a clear signal of its abject failure.

According to the story, the computer was dropped off at a repair shop in April 2019—as in over a year and a half ago. The computer was left apparently without signing any form or even providing a name. In fact, the shop owner declared that because he is legally blind, he could not identify the person who brought in the supposedly water-damaged computer. However, that shop owner eventually concluded that it was Hunter Biden’s computer because … there was a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation on the computer.

This shop owner has been identified as 44-year-old John Paul “Mac” Isaac. Isaac is a vocal Trump supporter whose social media profile is full of not just statements about voting for Trump, but also comments about Joe Biden. That includes mention of a “Biden bubble” that keeps Biden from being affected by bad news. His social media also shows that Isaac likes to wear kilts, but that seems beside the point.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/15/1986703/-Dezinformatsiya-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Rupert-Murdoch-are-trying-to-con-America-and-failing?detail=emaildkre

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Reply The 'wet laptop' story absolutely is a scandal, but it has nothing to do with Joe Biden (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 16 OP
elleng Oct 16 #1
AleksS Oct 16 #2
Wounded Bear Oct 16 #3
mitch96 Oct 16 #8
ResistantAmerican17 Oct 16 #4
Budi Oct 16 #5
Budi Oct 16 #6
bluestarone Oct 16 #7
mitch96 Oct 16 #9
mnmoderatedem Oct 16 #10
Shermann Oct 16 #11

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:31 PM

1. 'The "accidently" left-behind wallet, briefcase, or letter is an absolute classic

of Soviet-era dezinformatsiya schemes.'

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:33 PM

2. Doesn't some of that hearken back to the British disinfo campaign in WWII

Where they dressed a dead body up in officer's clothing, stuffed fake military docs detailing a fake location for an offensive in the corpse's pockets, and dumped the body in the waters off Spain to be found and have the fake information sent to the Axis military command?

Here it is: Operation Mincemeat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat

"Operation Mincemeat was a successful British deception operation of the Second World War to disguise the 1943 Allied invasion of Sicily. Two members of British intelligence obtained the body of Glyndwr Michael, a tramp who died from eating rat poison, dressed him as an officer of the Royal Marines and placed personal items on him identifying him as the fictitious Captain (Acting Major) William Martin. Correspondence between two British generals which suggested that the Allies planned to invade Greece and Sardinia, with Sicily as merely the target of a feint, was also placed on the body.

Part of the wider Operation Barclay, Mincemeat was based on the 1939 Trout memo, written by Rear Admiral John Godfrey, the Director of the Naval Intelligence Division and his personal assistant, Lieutenant Commander Ian Fleming. With the approval of the British Prime Minister, Winston Churchill and the military commander in the Mediterranean, General Dwight D. Eisenhower, the plan began by transporting the body to the southern coast of Spain by submarine and releasing it close to shore, where it was picked up the following morning by a Spanish fisherman. The nominally neutral Spanish government shared copies of the documents with the Abwehr, the German military intelligence organisation, before returning the originals to the British. Forensic examination showed they had been read and Ultra decrypts of German messages showed that the Germans fell for the ruse. Reinforcements were shifted to Greece and Sardinia before and during the invasion of Sicily; Sicily received none."


*Note the involvement of Lt Com. Ian Fleming, of Bond fame!

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Response to AleksS (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:35 PM

3. I posted about this yesterday...GMTA!

Spycraft uses the same old tricks until they stop working. Problem is that autocrats tend to be paranoid folks who will bite on shit like this.

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Response to AleksS (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:31 PM

8. It was a great British movie "The man that never was".... nt

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:40 PM

4. Isn't at least reassuring to know better than to ask

“Are they really that stupid.??” Because they are. And then some.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:54 PM

5. Can't wait for the NY Post to run the story on Rudy & Bannon

How their forged Biden story sent them to prison.

Waiting.....

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:04 PM

7. DUMP this story and get to the real story

Ivanka's E-MAILS and China

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:42 PM

9. " the story of this left behind computer ran in the New York Post"

So let me get this straight...
Hunter Biden, elbow deep in a conspiracy to make a ton of money by giving some Ukrainians access to his dad, drops off a water logged laptop at some random laptop shop. He then never returns to get it. The shop owner then decides to call the FBI to report this laptop and before they can take it, makes a copy of the heard drive. Upon realizing what he REALLY has , very incriminating emails between the son of the vice prez and some gas and power guys gives the hard drive to Rudy..Rudy then knowing he hold the evidence of a crime, hands the emails over to the newspaper and not the FBi. Then the newspaper reports these emails with out even doing a modicum of research to see if the meeting alleged on the incriminating emails ever happened, which according to the VP publicly available schedule, did not..
Did I get it all? Someone helped me figure this out cause it was too confusing for this little brain.
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:48 PM

10. only thing I would add

is that it's things like this that compel Rudy's daughter to endorse Biden

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:54 PM

11. The Pubs' late season hail mary pass got batted down

Good on you social media. If someone wants to manufacture news stories out of thin air and broadcast them around the world, they can go buy a news company.

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