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Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:33 AM

Savannah Guthrie: A classic example of a woman who was underestimated until

she was allowed to perform. Welcome to the club, Savannah. You blew Trump away. You saved NBC's ass and you showed up every reporter, mainly men, who has failed to ask the hard questions, failed to follow up, and played the corporate game of going along to get along. You were the epitome of poise, preparation and persistence.

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Reply Savannah Guthrie: A classic example of a woman who was underestimated until (Original post)
Raven Oct 16 OP
hlthe2b Oct 16 #1
Raven Oct 16 #3
sunnybrook Oct 16 #6
Upthevibe Oct 16 #23
Mr.Bill Oct 16 #63
orleans Oct 16 #73
sunnybrook Oct 16 #2
Raven Oct 16 #5
sunnybrook Oct 16 #4
LymphocyteLover Oct 16 #7
Upthevibe Oct 16 #24
IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 16 #48
flibbitygiblets Oct 16 #76
LymphocyteLover Oct 16 #66
mitch96 Oct 16 #8
DinahMoeHum Oct 16 #11
eppur_se_muova Oct 16 #21
mitch96 Oct 16 #47
VA_Jill Oct 16 #58
Different Drummer Oct 16 #65
yardwork Oct 16 #14
mitch96 Oct 16 #17
Upthevibe Oct 16 #27
IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 16 #49
Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 16 #9
Bubs55 Oct 16 #19
ooky Oct 16 #33
BlancheSplanchnik Oct 16 #77
LittleGirl Oct 16 #10
Dukkha Oct 16 #12
DinahMoeHum Oct 16 #13
Upthevibe Oct 16 #35
TeamPooka Oct 16 #54
Gregory Peccary Oct 16 #55
malaise Oct 16 #15
Upthevibe Oct 16 #37
malaise Oct 16 #38
PubliusEnigma Oct 16 #16
SKKY Oct 16 #18
demmiblue Oct 16 #20
malaise Oct 16 #39
Upthevibe Oct 16 #51
SunSeeker Oct 16 #62
SunSeeker Oct 16 #61
Upthevibe Oct 16 #40
NJCher Oct 16 #41
Upthevibe Oct 16 #22
mahannah Oct 16 #25
cwydro Oct 16 #32
Upthevibe Oct 16 #42
VA_Jill Oct 16 #59
llashram Oct 16 #26
Upthevibe Oct 16 #43
Javaman Oct 16 #28
1plus1equals1 Oct 16 #29
Upthevibe Oct 16 #44
cwydro Oct 16 #30
PennyK Oct 16 #31
onetexan Oct 16 #34
Oneironaut Oct 16 #36
durablend Oct 16 #60
LeftInTX Oct 16 #45
Texin Oct 16 #46
Upthevibe Oct 16 #52
liberalla Oct 16 #50
Upthevibe Oct 16 #53
Goodheart Oct 16 #56
CrispyQ Oct 16 #57
bluboid Oct 16 #64
Prof.Higgins Oct 16 #67
spooky3 Oct 16 #68
Skittles Oct 16 #69
proud patriot Oct 16 #70
smirkymonkey Oct 16 #71
kairos12 Oct 16 #72
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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:39 AM

1. Maybe, but after Chris Wallace fell apart, I think there was reason to wonder if ANY MSM moderator

COULD/WOULD be effective in dealing with Trump. In fairness to Wallace, he did an admirable job in his earlier interview and that was the aspect of the town hall that Guthrie handled so very well. She didn't have to try to deal with both a combative, lying Trump who was ALSO trying to cut off an opponent's opportunity to speak at all.

Frankly, though I totally agree with you that women are frequently underestimated, I think in Guthrie's case it was more from the standpoint of her work on "TODAY," which only occasionally features hard-hitting interviews and thus more often highlights the usual "fluff" that doesn't exactly let her or her colleagues showcase their true abilities.

At any rate, she did a very good job (I saw most of it via clips after the fact). I wish she'd been the one moderating the first debate and also the VP debate.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:44 AM

3. I don't know how she would have fared in the first debate. I don't think anyone would

have been able to control Trump without the ability to control his mic. I like Chris Wallace but I doubt he would have been as hard hitting as Guthrie was.

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Response to Raven (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:47 AM

6. You're probably right

She also may have had more of an opportunity than other journalists. He normally answers questions at the White House and simply ignores questions or walks away. This was important for him so he couldn't just walk away. From the transcript I read looks like she did an excellent job.

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Response to Raven (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:25 AM

23. Raven....

Again, I completely agree with you....

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Response to Raven (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:01 PM

63. If I moderated a live debate involving Trump

I would start a stopwatch every time he spoke out of turn. At the end of the debate I would give all that time to his opponent to speak about whatever he wants to. And I would tell him before the debate that I was going to do that.

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Response to Raven (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:37 PM

73. next time they should use this



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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:42 AM

2. Her name is Savannah Guthrie

This caught my eye because I have neices named Samantha and Savanna. Their names are so similar that we mix them up all the time ☺️

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Response to sunnybrook (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:44 AM

5. OOPS. Sorry, I'll correct.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:44 AM

4. And I agree with your sentiment

It's especially common to underestimate women! People do this of our VP candidate at their own peril!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:30 AM

7. Yes, thanks god. But I do hope she has good security. I'm sure she is getting a

lot of threats today.

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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:27 AM

24. LymphocyteLover....

I wonder how we could do some kind of show of support? Any ideas?

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:10 AM

48. Send her some Omaha Steaks...


... ie, ... not Trump steaks. And throw in some salmon filets, too!

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Response to IthinkThereforeIAM (Reply #48)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:34 PM

76. As Gloria from Modern Family called them, "Obama steaks"

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:12 PM

66. That's a nice idea-- I guess the easiest thing is to just thank her on her social media pages

she did do a terrific job under tough circumstances

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:30 AM

8. It must be the lawyer training she used so well. Never ask a question

you don't know the answer to?"... Put 'em in a corner and watch 'em squirm....
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:37 AM

11. Yep. Georgetown Law class of 2002

Member of the bar associations of Arizona and DC.

Journalism, too: BA, U of Arizona 1993



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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:10 AM

21. WOW, didn't know that. As pointed out above, she's mostly known as a 'Today' host ...

... and it's an easy temptation to take her less seriously because of that. I honestly didn't know anything else about her before now.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:08 AM

47. CBS Paula Reid is also a Villanova lawyer and has a masters in BioEthics.

CBS Jan Crawford is also a lawyer from Uni Chicago. Lots of smart correspondents out there.
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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:45 PM

58. Also

Magna Cum Laude from Georgetown Law School. From which Donny Dumpo's privileged offspring will be lucky to escape with her hide. #ByeTiffany

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:12 PM

65. FWIW, before she was on The Today Show...

she had a show on MSNBC. Her co-host on that show was...wait for it...wait for it...Chuck Todd!

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:48 AM

14. Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.

Lawyers don't want to be surprised in court or during a televised town hall. Guthrie asked questions she knew the answers to - she put Trump on the spot.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:57 AM

17. My mistake and fixed, tnx.. nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:31 AM

27. mitch96.....

You're right on...I didn't know anything about her. After that town hall last night, I googled her to get a sense of her background. She has a B.A. in Journalism and a J.D. from Georgtown.

I've always heard that expression about lawyers never asking a question they don't have the answer to. I tend to get dramatic so in keeping with my character, SHE WAS PERFECTION.....

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:13 AM

49. Yep, my first thought...


... eom.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:31 AM

9. I agree she was great

Fox News is having a Guthrie meltdown today

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:59 AM

19. I don't watch Fox now, right before the election.

I'm too nervous to, but I could imagine they were saying how mean she was!

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:41 AM

33. The ultimate recognition and compliment of doing a great job of owning them.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

77. Lol! Good!

Hope they croak!


Damn fux spewz...

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:34 AM

10. Exactly! nt

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:41 AM

12. No doubt he was livid

That a woman has the audacity to grill me like that! Expect a tweet declaring Savannah a "nasty woman" and "dog" soon followed by yet another "I'm treated so unfairly" pity party.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:41 AM

13. Tee hee! The Trump team must've figured she was "easy meat". . .

. . .seeing that she's a co-host of the Today show since 2012, and evidently chose to see only the "entertainment" side of her. Should've dug deeper to see her journalism and law background.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:43 AM

35. DinahMoeHum....

That's probably exactly what dt's people were thinking. They were only looking at her as an entertainer. Surprise, surprise....She has that perfect combination - B.A. in Jounalism and J.D. from Georgetown.....

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:27 AM

54. plus it was a last minute booking so probably they felt she couldn't have been too prepared

faked out

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

55. Yes DinahMoe, I think you are correct

she brought some "Tinseltown Rebellion" from her entertainment side!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:55 AM

15. +1,000

She put them all to shame

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Response to malaise (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:48 AM

37. malaise....

I ABSOLUTELY agree..... ..She put the (I don't mean to go negative but I can't help myself in this moment) Chuck Todd's of the world to where ever worse than shame is!!!!! (I just can't stand him...I mean I get a visceral reaction when I see him and feel sick). Once again, she was great!!!!

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #37)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:51 AM

38. Chris Wallace and all the Fox tools as well

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:56 AM

16. I bet Trump wants that "free hour on TV" back. Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:59 AM

18. Who was that idiot in the red mask behind Trump nodding with approval...

...at everything. freaking. thing. he. said? A plant by the RNC?

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Response to SKKY (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:03 AM

20. Here is an article about her:

Woman who nodded, gave thumbs up behind Trump in Miami ran pro-Trump campaign in 2018

A woman who gained internet fame for nodding and giving President Donald Trump the thumbs up sign during his Miami town hall on Thursday night could have used the free airtime two years ago — because she was running for Congress as a pro-Trump candidate.

Mayra Joli, an immigration attorney and pro-Trump activist who once declared herself Miami’s “master of selfies” during her 2018 campaign, was seated behind the president during his hour-long town hall. After the event, she greeted the president, according to a video posted to her Facebook page.

“We have your back! You see, you see you are the best,” Joli said to Trump shortly after the event finished.

“Where are you from?” Trump replied.

“I’m from the Dominican Republic, but I’m American, I’m an American,” Joli said.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article246492520.html

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Response to SKKY (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

39. A paid actress?

but the idiot who talked about his lovely smile was worse.

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Response to malaise (Reply #39)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:19 AM

51. malaise.....

OMG! I forgot about her.....

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #51)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:42 PM

62. Did you see this article on her?

Despite the comments that may have implied she is a fan, Dale told the Miami New Times after the event that she doesn’t actually like the president and plans to pull the for Joe Biden when early voting begins on Monday in Florida. “I wish he would smile more and talk less,” she told the newspaper after the event, adding that Trump “steps in it every time he opens his mouth.” And lest anyone not truly believe her, she said, “I think the man has a nice smile. However, I’m not a fan.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/paulette-dean-nbc-town-hall-voter-who-complimented-trump-on-his-smile-says-shes-voting-for-biden


She may be thirsty, but she's not stupid!

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Response to malaise (Reply #39)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:40 PM

61. But the smile lover will vote for Biden!

Despite the comments that may have implied she is a fan, Dale told the Miami New Times after the event that she doesn’t actually like the president and plans to pull the for Joe Biden when early voting begins on Monday in Florida. “I wish he would smile more and talk less,” she told the newspaper after the event, adding that Trump “steps in it every time he opens his mouth.” And lest anyone not truly believe her, she said, “I think the man has a nice smile. However, I’m not a fan.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/paulette-dean-nbc-town-hall-voter-who-complimented-trump-on-his-smile-says-shes-voting-for-biden

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Response to SKKY (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

40. SKKY....

I know! The friend I was watching with and I were commenting on her the whole time...WTF.....A motherf****ing circus....

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Response to SKKY (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

41. did you know

there's some sort of study that shows having a person on the screen with the speaker who is nodding approval has a persuasive effect on the audience?

She was probably a paid nodder, LOL.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:22 AM

22. Raven............YES!!!!

Wow! Thank you for your post. You articulated my thoughts and feelings exactly......

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:28 AM

25. If NBC has any clue, it will give her more airtime.

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Response to mahannah (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:40 AM

32. She's an anchor of the Today show.

She's on at least two hours every day.

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Response to mahannah (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:54 AM

42. mahannah.....

I agree.....I want to send her a card or something....

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Response to mahannah (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:46 PM

59. They need to

fire Chuck Toad and give her his job. He's useless anyway.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:30 AM

26. With all the women and POC

I have seen in d.trumps Nuremberg rallies this campaign, it is refreshing and hopeful to see/hear a real moderator who had enough courage, yes courage, to call this racist, sexist, Russian mob compromised POC posing as POTUS out. Ms Guthrie did in one night, over one hour, more to expose this genocidal criminal fascist for what he is than ALL who have 'interviewed, moderated this clown in all of this campaign.

Thank You Ms Guthrie.

You are a true patriot.

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Response to llashram (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:58 AM

43. Ilashram....

EXACTLY! Home run!!!!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:34 AM

28. maybe or...

was it a classic example of people underestimating todays press to hold the orange asshole accountable?

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:36 AM

29. In my experience, she is a shinning example of the benefit of having strong women around!

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Response to 1plus1equals1 (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:00 AM

44. 1plus1equals1.....

EXCELLENT POINT!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:36 AM

30. Damn right.

Spot on.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:38 AM

31. YES. i thought this was the only acceptable outcome

That this event on NBC could be a tough session for him. I told my husband that was possible what we'd see, and sure enough, Ms. Guthrie came through. I recorded Joe and watched just enough of NBC to see that indeed, he got grilled (and she had no problem interrupting him).

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:43 AM

34. I'm not a fan of hers when she replaced Ann Curry. But i'm glad she dared to ask the hard questions

to the Con. This kind of treatment should have happened back in 2015 when he first declared his candidacy. They were tough on Hillary but have always treated him w white gloves until now.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:44 AM

36. Has Drumpf whined about how "totally unfair(tm)" and biased she was?

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:51 PM

60. His MAGAtrash followers have

How DARE a woman interrupt the greatest man whose ever lived on planet earth!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:00 AM

45. She used to be on Court TV

Both her and Kimberly Guilfoyle were on Court TV around the same time. I used to watch alot of Court TV due to health issues that kept my at home back then. I used to get them mixed up..LOL

Anyway, her background on Court TV is probably why she didn't play softball. I bet Trump did not remember or was not aware of this.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:02 AM

46. Yes. She's one of the reasons the rethugs are trying so hard to reduce the status of ALL WOMEN.

They're craven, selfish idiots who want a permanent social and gender caste system in place to guarantee and cement their power. And I'm talking predominately about the men of that so-called party. I realize, of course, that there are women who believe like them as well. However, it is overwhelmingly the men who want to marginalize women and have power over them.

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Response to Texin (Reply #46)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:22 AM

52. Texin...

You're right...it's frightening.....

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:17 AM

50. I'm SO GLAD she didn't have to share the stage with chuck todd!

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Response to liberalla (Reply #50)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:24 AM

53. liberalla....

Me too.....He's a DISGRACE...

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:12 PM

56. Give her Meet the Press, I say.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:11 PM

57. And may she get Chuckie Toad's job.

Or at least a promotion as everyone moves up when he's booted.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:11 PM

64. OMG, the part of the Savannah Guthrie questioning I saw was absolutely BRILLIANT!

he was blocked from bloviating at every turn. Savannah deserves every spotlight she gets from now on.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:15 PM

67. No, Jonathan Swan was way more effective against Trump lies. Guthrie wasn't any better than

Chris Wallace on a FoxNews program one-to-one interview against Trump last month. Even Guthrie's unnecessarily deferential comment that you're not someone's crazy uncle wasn't accurate, as Mary Trump has been telling the world many weeks now.

History will judge NBC and Guthrie as iniquitous enablers who are complicit for all the additional Covid-19 sicknesses and deaths resulting from the looney lies uttered during this town hall which NBC gifted Teump directly in opposition to Biden's town hall on ABC. Trump mocked NBC for their gift in an earlier rally rant.

Nothing Guthrie did will console the loved ones of these victims for NBC's day of infamy. !00 NBC' staff pleaded in a memo with their management to at least change the time. If Guthrie and all other news personnel had demanded this time change, the greedy NBC bosses would've had no choice but to make their gift to Trump a bit less destructive to the health of multiple thousands of Americans. How will you feel if your loved ones can't get normal emergency or ICU care because your hospital is overflowing with Trump supporters with Covid-19 infections?

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:43 PM

68. I couldn't bear to watch, so thanks DUers, for the summaries

and glad to hear she did so well.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:48 PM

69. over 200 recs, Raven!

you still got it!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:07 PM

70. K and R

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:21 PM

71. +1000

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:23 PM

72. She smoked him like a Nolan Ryan fastball.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:39 PM

74. Recommended.

Well said. Very well said. Thank you for this.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:32 PM

75. Now I understand how my FoxNews addict brother justifies the nefarious activities of that

propaganda network. He invariably points to one or two reasonable hosts, guests etc as "proof" that FoxNews is fair and balanced. However, what Trump and FoxNews do that my brother actually loves most is seeing Democrats "exposed" by being given the nastiest treatment possible.

Guthrie enabled NBC to perpetrate an attack on American democracy by rewarding Trump for his refusal to accept the decision of our independent Electoral Commission to hold a safe virtual town hall debate. For the past 30 years, Commission's been chaired by a Republican, yet Trump is the first candidate who's ever childishly dodged a debate. NBC and Guthrie ignored the pleading of 100 colleagues for the time to be changed, which would at least have allowed many more voters to view Biden's town hall and contrast the two candidates.

Yes, Guthrie gave Trump a tough time, but he still had a successful night in terms of spewing the usual lies, including promotion of conspiracy propaganda with his giving a nod and wink to Qanon. That folks on this thread have tunnel vision about Guthrie's being tough on Trump rather than her and NBC's egregiously dangerous reward to Trump has opened my eyes. Don't bother to rubbish this post because I won't read it. Moreover, this is my DU 162nd reply and, saddened to say, the last instance I'll be writing on DU.

Best of luck to you all. Stay safe.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:58 PM

78. She grilled his ass like a pitmaster

n/t

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:45 AM

79. Savannah Guthrie has long been a very strong and sharp interviewer.

I didn't think NBC News should have done this, but it's obvious not many people knew about Guthrie's skills as an interviewer, or Trump thought his old relationship with NBC was going mean a Fox-type home game. Guthrie has more Mike Wallace in her than Chris Wallace does. I think she went to "Today" from hard news because she's a new mom, and the network didn't seem to have a good fit for her in that arena.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 05:47 AM

80. Now we know what all Trump's interviews should look like

Trump backed himself into a corner by not doing the planned debate and gave up control over the questioning because he was desperate to get on TV. Good job Savannah Guthrie!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 08:10 AM

81. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! +1,000,000 n/t

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