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Thread: This Hunter Biden laptop story is fucked. (Discussion about the laptop)




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This Hunter Biden laptop story is fucked.

Docs show the laptop was dropped on Apr 12, 2019. They also show an external drive and its serial number.

Western Digital’s web site says that drive’s **3-year** warranty expires Apr 18, 2022…meaning it was manufactured Apr *18*, 2019.
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If the data was on the MBP’s NVMe SSD, it was either readable or not. The TRIM command is constantly shuffling blocks around to level the wear on the memory cells, and any legit data recovery firm will tell you: recovery of damaged/deleted files from an NVME drive is impossible.

The external drive was claimed to be used to recover the data, but there is no “recovery” of a solid state disk drive, such as the one in Hunter’s alleged Mac. If the data is corrupted or deleted, it’s lost forever, unless the Mac’s owner runs a *specific* command from a shell.

That command would disable the TRIM command. It’s not at all common practice, and the kind of person who’d use a strip mall repair shop certainly wouldn’t know about it.

The drive could have been used as a *destination* for a backup of a *working* SSD. So let’s explore that.

If the internal solid state drive was working, but the computer was not, it would take specialized equipment and skill to remove it. It’s not a “drive,” it’s a bunch of memory chips soldered directly onto a circuit board inside. It would mean desoldering the chips, and…

…we’re already past what a neighborhood repair shop can do. Certainly not for $75.

Which leaves one last option: the computer was bootable, the internal drive was working, and The Mac Shop just cloned it onto a My Passport Pro they bought…weeks after they got the computer.
It’s clear by the date that the drive wasn’t Hunter’s. So we’ll proceed from there.

They could’ve used Target Disk Mode for this, if the problem with the MacBook was its display, but it was otherwise bootable.

Which brings us to price.

Again, the drive wasn’t Hunter’s. So the shop had to buy it. The 2TB My Passport for Mac is $80 today. It was likely more when it came out. Yet Hunter only paid $75 for the repair?

No repair shop owner is that dumb.

Let’s sum up:

Ext. drive wasn’t Hunter’s, it was bought after the MacBook was dropped off. The internal drive wasn’t corrupted, because you can’t recover from a corrupted NVMe SSD. Which means it was copied to a drive that costs more than the cost of the service, and no repair shop does that.
Slight correction: Hunter was charged $85, not $75. My bad.

Why not continue a bit on this thread?
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Let’s set aside the external drive that the Mac shop bought for the express purpose of copying data that can’t be recovered from a corrupted drive and isn’t the server that the quote specified.

Let’s focus on a “water damaged” MacBook Pro, as alleged in the NY Post piece.

How would you know (as a consumer) if it’s water damaged? Does the keyboard not work? The screen? Due to the internals of a MacBook Pro, if they don’t work because of water damage, it’s likely that the drive can’t be accessed either; i.e. it won’t boot.

Which puts us back to “no recovery” because of the kind of solid state storage in the MacBook Pro. The only conclusion left: the computer was working fine, data was copied (by *someone*) to an external drive bought at retail, and once there, the data is easily changed/forged.

Hell, the emails were “printed” to PDF in October 2019, according to metadata in the PDF files linked by the NY Post story. Six months after the computer was allegedly dropped off by someone who may or may not be Hunter Biden.

Basically, there isn’t one part of their story that holds even a small amount of water.

You know what does “fit” the narrative, though?

Some sketchy dude overcharged his customer (whom he didn’t recognize at first) for “recovery” (making a backup of a working drive)

He realized what a treasure trove he had, and gave up the goods to Rudy’s lawyer for a cash payment. From there, they used their numerous (a and documented) connections to foreign nationals to mix some choice forgeries into the other legitimate data on the (backup) drive.

This thread is going nuts, so I’m muting it. It’s only one small example of the inconsistencies of only one small part of a big, crazy story. It’s not a smoking gun when there’s smoke coming from all over the NY Post story.

It just shines a light on one tiny, little piece.

What I learned may not be relevant. It may suffer from a false premise that invalidates a huge chunk of it.

In a story with many disconnected premises, I wouldn’t be surprised, and neither should you.

By the way, have you voted yet? Do you have a plan to vote?

Be good to you.

I’ll stipulate to one more thing: it’s possible that the laptop was old enough to have a removable NVMe drive, which would make it possible to transplant it into another (older) MacBook Pro. I don’t think the drive was corrupted at all, in any case.

Okay, now I’m muting it. Night, all.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:16 AM

1. K&R!

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

4. So this is by my estimation what Trump wants us to believe-Hunter buys laptop in California.

 

Goes back in time 6 days. Fucks up laptop.

Unsatisfied with repair shops in California hops on plane to Delaware to find

probably the most Film noir sketchy repair shop he can find.

Repair shop loses $$ on deal to fix laptop.

Repair shop owner just happens to know who Rudy Giuliani's personal attorney is.

Copies files sends to said attorney. Somehow drive given to FBI?

After several consecutive months of laughing, FBI dumps off laptop to House.

They proceed to laugh as well.

Frustrated Giuliani peddles story to NYPOST

Close?

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:29 AM

5. I'm hearing the said laptop has been misplaced by the shop owner

What a shocker. This story has more holes than trumps golf course.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:18 AM

2. Thank you!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:21 AM

3. We know the story is BS but Dustin Miller doesn't know what he is talking about.

You don't have to desolder chips to retrieve data from SSD drives.

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Response to 5X (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:47 AM

7. As far as I know, NVME drives are removable; I just installed some in a desktop.

Maybe they are different in laptops, but the removable ones are so tiny already, it's hard to see why they'd bother.

However, there is plenty of other evidence that the whole thing is fake; I see no reason to believe any part, from start to finish, is anything but 100% forgery.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

10. I have installed and replaced and recovered files from NVME drives

multiple times. Macs and PCs and drives that would not work in the machine, but was able to recover data.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:35 AM

6. one question...don't warranties start the date a product is REGISTERED?

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:53 AM

8. No, warranties start at date of purchase.

As noted in the excerpt from Western Digital.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 AM

9. They can't even conjure up a scandal that has a fucking story

This is so so terrible of a supposed scandal. So many holes that this thing could be Swiss cheese

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