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RealClearPolitics "No Tossups" Electoral Map: Biden 358, Trump 180 (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
If that be the case, this is a blowout. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2020 #1
Let it Be!! Sogo Oct 2020 #2
I think MFM008 Oct 2020 #3
I have been surprised neither Laura nor the twins have endorsed Biden obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #6
Georgia may still be in play Brother Buzz Oct 2020 #4
If Trump takes FL or OH, it should be on Election Night obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #5
I am feeling good about Florida this time. n/t whopis01 Oct 2020 #9
Biden - 86% Trump 13% likelihood on 538 kurtcagle Oct 2020 #7
On Oct 17th, 2016 Nate Silver's model had Trump at 12% and Clinton at 88% whopis01 Oct 2020 #8
And then the Comey announcement came out kurtcagle Oct 2020 #12
I agree completely - I like our chances a lot better now. whopis01 Oct 2020 #15
Biden takes Texas vercetti2021 Oct 2020 #10
Looking at the video of the lines in GA today, they Marius25 Oct 2020 #11
K&R for this thread because... llmart Oct 2020 #13
If those people who left the lines in Georgia go Rice4VP Oct 2020 #14

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
3. I think
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:40 PM
Oct 2020

It will be very close in GA and TX.
There's still three weeks left in this campaign wonder if George W Bush comes out and makes an endorsement? I still say anything can happen it's bad but this time it's going to happen to maggot.

obamanut2012

(26,067 posts)
6. I have been surprised neither Laura nor the twins have endorsed Biden
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 02:04 PM
Oct 2020

Especially since "the girls" are Dems, and I've always expected Laura is, too.

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
4. Georgia may still be in play
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:49 PM
Oct 2020

Unless the fix is in, my Magic 8-Ball says GOTV will tip the state to Biden. Grassroots, Baby!

obamanut2012

(26,067 posts)
5. If Trump takes FL or OH, it should be on Election Night
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Oct 2020

And, if either ro both are called for him? It is indeed mic drop for Joe and Kamala.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
7. Biden - 86% Trump 13% likelihood on 538
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 02:30 PM
Oct 2020

Trump has lost 1% a day since Oct 1.

EC: 346 Biden / 192 Trump

Nate Silver's model is more conservative than RCP, but it's still horrendous for Trump.

whopis01

(3,509 posts)
8. On Oct 17th, 2016 Nate Silver's model had Trump at 12% and Clinton at 88%
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 04:50 PM
Oct 2020

The trend on it is great, but I won't feel comfortable with even a 10% chance of a Trump win.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
12. And then the Comey announcement came out
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 05:07 PM
Oct 2020

What's different in 2020

1. 2016 - high volatility in the race, 2020 - very low volatility.
2. 2016 - Trump was mostly unknown politically, 2020 Trump is very well known politically, and far more hated
3. 2016 - Unified GOP, 2020 - GOP highly fragmented, with several now democrats
4. 2016 - Highly divided Democrats - Sanders , 2020 - Party more unified than I've ever seen it
5. 2016 - Most of the actual election took place in the last two weeks. 2020, farm more VBM, AB, early voting.
6. 2016 - Hillary had the flu, 2020 - Trump HAS Covid.

This is just a partial list. Yes, GOTV and all that, but I like our chances far more in 2020 than I did in 2016.

whopis01

(3,509 posts)
15. I agree completely - I like our chances a lot better now.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 06:48 PM
Oct 2020

I don't think this is a repeat of 2020.

But there are two reasons to not get comfortable and not let up (like you said - GOTV):
1) All the down ticket races that are going to benefit from a Biden blowout.
2) Because of 2016 I am still scared to death of something going wrong.

I really don't believe #2 will happen - but the consequences are so bad it remains scary.

It's the risk analysis approach:
(Percent chance of something happening) X (Cost if it does happen)
Even if the percent is very low, if the cost is high enough, it is still something to worry about.

So - yes, I agree with you completely. What you said is logical and correct. I am just having a hard time with my own fear and nervousness about the whole thing.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
11. Looking at the video of the lines in GA today, they
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 04:55 PM
Oct 2020

were insanely long. Now it's Georgia, so Kemp will probably destroy 500,000 Democratic ballots, but turnout seems like GA is in play if Kemp doesn't cheat.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
13. K&R for this thread because...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 05:12 PM
Oct 2020

I needed to read something like this today. I was starting to get depressed with the thread about how John James may win the Senate seat in MI. I was fairly certain that James didn't have a chance.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
14. If those people who left the lines in Georgia go
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 05:13 PM
Oct 2020

back on another day to vote, Biden can win.

Why bother to go if you’re not going to stay? It’s a holiday

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