It's been at least 10 days and the SOB isn't dead

[captain queeg]

At this point he’s probably not going to croak in the next couple months. Of course he’s had the best possible medical care unlike thousands of regular citizens. I guess I’ll have to settle for him destroying his own chances for re-election. And hopefully there’s permanent physical damage. Can’t wait for this nightmare to be over.

[TEB]

1. We just can't catch a break

[agingdem]

5. vermin and roaches don't die...

they reproduce...case in point Trump's reptilian spawn...but, I think we caught a break...the debate.... Trump's real-time globally televised descent into madness...yes, it was a shit show but the curtain was finally pulled back...an old man with orange makeup and a yellow combover disconnected from reality, spewing nonsensical garbage, screwing himself and taking the rancid GOP down with him...and then covid came a calling...

[Lonestarblue]

11. I think you're right. That debate cost him and Republicans.

I read somewhere recently that not only did Trump’s poll numbers decline after the debate, so did the number for some Republicans running for reelection.

You would think by now that most people would know what Trump is, but I suspect a lot of people who might have been on the edge of supporting him again saw that debate and decided that he is deranged.

[agingdem]

14. I agree

but his slobbering brainless sycophants will vote for him regardless...he hates who they hate and they vote their hate...

[soothsayer]

2. Oh I'm waiting for a big relapse. It's coming!

[cwydro]

3. No offense, but people have been saying that here for years now.

Hoping for a great vote turnout.

[intheflow]

27. Perhaps you misread the post you replied to?

Or posted in the wrong place? No one's been saying "for years now" that they hope Trump relapses.

[onenote]

38. The point, of course, is that Trump's imminent demise from this or that has been predicted by some

here since before election day 2016. Wishful thinking based on speculation.

[Cousin Dupree]

34. Me too. I read somewhere that if he got the course of steroids that other patients get, he

was done a day or two ago. Here’s hoping for a relapse and a lesson learned, because he sure didn’t learn anything so far. There’s more I’d like to say, but it will make me sound like a terrible human being, but you can probably get my drift.

[wnylib]

35. I don't think a relapse will happen.

The orange menace got top level early treatment that warded off a more severe outcome. Treatment that is not available to the majority of people.

If he had contracted the virus sooner, before we learned what medicines can help to reduce the death rate and before Regeneron, he certainly would have died from it.

He probably does have heart and lung damage because he tried to hide that he had it and resisted getting treatment at first. I'd bet that he is at higher risk now for a heart attack, or for other lung diseases. But I don't think he will die from covid.

We will have to get him out through voting and refusing to let him steal the election. A landslide would make election theft less likely. It would create massive backlash to his attempts at stealing the election.

[LeftInTX]

66. Agree, it would have happened this past week

He is steadily improving. At the most, he may have to "take it easy"...or limit his speech time, like he did yesterday.

[Polybius]

68. "he certainly would have died from it"

Never say certainly, you'd be surprised by some of the people who recovered. My friend's grandmother got it in March/April, at 101 and frail with many underlying conditions. She fully recovered.

On the flip side, I had some friend's friends that were healthy and in their 30's and 40's who died. Covid is a strange virus.

[wnylib]

74. True, it is strange. I based my comment on

how sick he was when he went to Walter Reed. His O2 levels had dropped twice. He had a high fever. He needed supplemental O2. Back in the early months of the pandemic, before doctors were using Remdesivir and before there was a cocktail of artificial antibodies to reduce the viral load, and before the use of steroids to ward off a cytokine storm, his chances of survival would have been near zero, given how bad his symptoms were when he got treatment. We can't know for sure since he has apparently come through the worst, thanks to what doctors have learned from the ones who died earlier on. But I believe he would not have made it if he had contracted the virus in March or April.

[ananda]

37. Me too!

He should be off the steroids by Monday.

Then we'll see.

[Illumination]

40. Don't forget about the C-19 "long haulers". They suffer symptoms weeks & months later! This is

NO FLU. This also effects every organ in your body! It alters the brain & some patients have had lung transplants, etc. ...

[Blue_playwright]

4. Alive is good.

Alive and living through a crushing defeat is good.
Alive and forced to deal with multiple investigations and indictments is good.
Alive and forced to spend what money is left (because he’s burned Duetche Bank and lost his usefulness to Putin) is good.
Alive and on TV daily, but now broken and forced to sit behind the defendant’s table, with no adoring crowds or adulation.
Alive and sitting in jail is good.

[OneBro]

6. Amen! Tell 'em again!

Even agnostics and atheists are praying that Trump lives long enough to die on Rikers Island.

[Sherman A1]

7. Agreed

I hope the defeat is soul crushing (not that he or any republican have a soul), Biden wins 63 states, 83 territories, 1813 Electoral votes and 3 planets (including Pluto who got a bum rap and was demoted).

[James48]

28. This!!!!

Totally agree

[Sherman A1]

31. Thanks

Pluto appreciates your support.

[agingdem]

8. I want that sonofbitch alive and where I can see him

out of the White House and into the "arms" of US Marshals
all property, banks accounts, stocks/bonds frozen, seized and confiscated...
stalked and spit on when he dares to show his ugly face in public
denied entrance and service in restaurants, clubs, theaters, etc
homeless and wearing an ankle bracelet
prison specifically for the criminally insane, in isolation, no access to internet and tv...

and when the piece of garbage dies an excruciating death, I want his $40 cardboard casket set down in the middle of 5th Avenue...rotting

[former9thward]

41. You are setting yourself up for a huge disappointment.

On all those hopes. They are not reality.

[agingdem]

59. I know...

I wanted : Nixon tried and convicted...didn't happen
Reagan and VP George Bush to resign because of Iran/Contra...didn't happen
John McCain to resign bc of the Keating Five Scandal..didn't happen

Gore v Bush
Trump...

I think justice is easy...doing right is hard...

[JCMach1]

10. Let him suffer reality and life

[Illumination]

44. I agree that he should suffer. On the other hand, how much more suffering

will the American people & the world have to endure in the meantime?

[Boomer]

46. This.

Aside from any moral issues, I want Trump alive to face the consequences of his actions.

[yardwork]

67. That's my belief.

[DFW]

9. With each patient, it's different

Herman Cain was diagnosed on June 29, and he didn't die until August, even after having gone through bouts of colon cancer and liver cancer.

Trump could easily attend a rally on a Monday, and be at the undertaker's by the next Friday--or he could make a complete recovery. Each person has a different story.

[FBaggins]

19. Cain was in the hospital the whole time

He didn’t go home and then relapse weeks later

[DFW]

30. Trump probably should have been, too

He had the fortune to say yes or no to a bunch of expensive experimental crap which kept him able to walk out of Walter Reed.

[FBaggins]

36. Just as likely that he shouldn't have been there at all

A rush to get back to campaigning when someone else could probably recuperate at home over a couple weeks

[TwilightZone]

42. We really have no way of knowing that.

A lot of people made a lot of assumptions that Trump was on his death bed, with little or no evidence.

There was a lot of wishful thinking going on.

[LeftInTX]

65. Like flu or pneumonia, the odds are in his favor for complete recovery

He may have minor relapses, where he has to "take it easy", but I'm not seeing downward spiral.

He has "pushed himself" through this without any setbacks and we would have seen it by now.
At the most, he might have to scale back his activities

[gab13by13]

12. The monoclonal antibody treatment

has been used for years with good results in prolonging the lives of cancer patients. What we don't know are the side effects that can occur not just from the cocktail but from the interactions with the combination of drugs that Trump took.

The future of antibody cocktails is promising. The CEO of the company that made Trump's cocktail is a friend of Trumps. Right now those monoclonal antibody cocktails cost is 6 digits. So when Trump says he is going to make it available for free I just laughed.

[Buckeyeblue]

13. Not physically he's not. But his presidential brand might be.

He is giving 18 minute speeches from the white house balcony. He is sending manic tweets demanding that his AG indict his opponent and predecessors. He continues to claim that Covid is just going to disappear--as numbers start to spike again.

He honestly is turning into the anti-smoking commercial where the camera focuses on the person smoking through their tracheotomy tube. Essentially that is Trump now. All the things that somehow worked out for him before are coming back to kill him now. And it's a slow painful death. For all of us.

[Afromania]

15. When you have the absolute best(costly) care a person can get. I guess they can keep you alive.

[katmondoo]

17. The problem with Trump is he keeps going like the energizer Bunny. He hasn't given his body a rest.

I expect him to just suddenly collapse.

[llmart]

33. +1000

Dick Cheney, for example. That evil fucker should have been dead long ago also, but he'd steal an available heart from a younger person before he'd give up the ghost.

[modrepub]

16. Crapped In His Own Bed

Sane people see someone who flaunts the rules, gets special treatment and is generally nonchalant about the whole ordeal. He's endangered not only his staff but people he needs to ram that unqualified SC justice through the Senate.

In short, he's worth more alive than dead. He's a non-stop sh-t show. Put him on C-SPAN call in 24-hrs a day and let his diarrhea sound-bite generating mouth flap in the breeze.

[mountain grammy]

18. Took Herman Cain a month

Good care. Recovering. Then bam. I still have hope.

[onenote]

39. Recovering according to who? Never believed the reports on Cain's condition.

[mountain grammy]

55. Good for you. I prefer to hold on to hope.

[Polybius]

71. I don't think Cain was ever recovering

He never left the hospital, and was on a ventilator for weeks. He had a bad case of Covid.

[Vogon_Glory]

20. I'm marveling at his constitution myself

I thought it likely that he’d have a crippling stroke back in March. Then I thought he’d flat-line in mid July. After that I was certain that he wouldn’t last through September (And this was BEFORE he contracted COVID!), and here he is still in the White House.

If I thought like an Evangelical, I’d wonder if God was going to punish our country by keeping him in office until January 20th.

[krakfiend]

21. I'm glad he's not dead

Personally, I want him to survive healthy. That way he can face trial and spend the rest of his days in jail. I hope he and his co-horts (Barr, Giuliani, and others) live a long, long life behind bars.

[IrishEyes]

22. I want him to live to see his crushing defeat.

I want him to watch a better man than him in every way get swore in as president. I want him to watch every republican politician turn completely from him. They will all pretend that they never supported him. I want to watch him desperately try to get attention and not succeed even to the point that Fox News won't take his calls.

[malaise]

23. As we say here

patient man ride donkey! All things in good time Can't wait until they drag him back to the hospital

[CottonBear]

24. LMAO!

[Hugin]

54. He only lasted 18 minutes into a planned 30 minute rally yesterday.

Things are cooking.

[malaise]

56. I love a nice slow boil

[XanaDUer2]

25. I know

What a drag

[mwb970]

26. Damn.

[smirkymonkey]

29. I'm really beginning to believe he is the anti-Christ.

How can someone in his shape and age survive this deadly virus?

[Oppaloopa]

45. It's all in the genes. We all know he has nothing in his physical jeans.

[former9thward]

50. Most people his age do survive.

And most people in that age group are not in good shape. 5.6% of people 65 and older die if infected. Which means 94.4 % recover. And that is just using numbers from confirmed cases. Both the CDC and WHO estimate the infection rate in the population may be about 10 times the number we know about. That would mean the death rate among older people would be 0.56%. Not a deadly virus at all.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/coronavirus-covid-deaths-us-age-race-14863

[LisaL]

70. The death rate is not a 100 % for people in his age group.

So odds were against him dying to begin with. And he got a lot more attention from doctors than a regular guy would.
He got treated, at the first sign of trouble, he was airlifted to the hospital, he got experimental treatment not available to regular people.

[LeftInTX]

72. Trump is actually in OK shape

He doesn't exercise, but he never was frail.

One of the biggest risk for elderly people are mobility issues, Trump doesn't have that. He also probably does not have congestive heart failure or he would have had a worse cases of Covid. None of his previous meds indicate he has congestive heart failure.

Most people who are the same age as Trump, who are also in his shape physically will survive pneumonia. Being "up and about" decreases risks significantly.

[smirkymonkey]

73. Most people his age are also not raging drug addicts.

That has to put him at a disadvantage.

[NoMoreRepugs]

32. More than dead I want him humiliated in front of his

Deplorable voters - our neighbors, family and acquaintances who voted for him. Even if just a smidgin of that shame is felt by some of them for being STUPID enough to support a charlatan I will have a bit more hope for our future.

[lillypaddle]

43. Karma is asleep on the job

How are all these good people dying from covid, and then you have assholes like trump and Christy thriving. SMMFH

[marble falls]

47. I don't think he had Covid. I think he had pnueminia.

[Illumination]

52. Then again, he could have just been suffering from no lovins' from Melania, because she

really doesn't care!...

[former9thward]

53. Which means the doctors at Walter Reed are lying?

[marble falls]

57. The Doctors have not been forthcoming about much.

[onenote]

60. Why would they lie about his having COVID

Being diagnosed with COVID hasn't exactly helped him in the polls. It's just made him look like an idiot.

[marble falls]

61. What were the nondisclosure forms about?

[onenote]

62. We don't know. The ND forms were from his emergency trip in Nov. 2019

Are you saying that non disclosure forms were required for his recent Walter Reed hospitalization? Link?

And the reason for the 2019 is that he didn't want people to know why he went.

But since having COVID was worse for him politically than just having pneumonia, why would he try to hide having pneumonia?

[Illumination]

48. Whenever he does kick the bucket, there's one thing for sure...The medical community will be

enthusiastically studying his brain!...

[XanaDUer2]

49. And someone's kind beloved grandmother

Had died hundreds of times over.

[58Sunliner]

51. Maybe he has type O blood.

That reduces your risk of serious complications/death by 50% apparently. Maybe he wasn't covid sick at all, just a flu or mild pneumonia. But he would claim he was so he could beat covid. His doctor is a liar, so that is half the battle.

[Demsrule86]

58. It took at least six weeks for Herman Cain.

[onenote]

63. There have been 8 million cases of COVID in the US. Why is Cain's case a model for Trump?

Folks are assuming that because Herman Cain contracted COVID and died, it tells us something about what will happen with Trump. But that's just wishful thinking, unsupported by any solid factual information that makes Cain's case relevant to Trump.

[Demsrule86]

75. What I am saying is Trump is not 'cured' IMHO.

[lettucebe]

64. So, at the first moment of diagnosis, get thee to hospital, get drug cocktail and it works?

All you need is that first week in hospital? Wow, how easy for the average human. Nice to see it may have actually helped, but how does this help every man? I only wanted him to feel the effects and even that seems to be escaping. What is it with this freak? Even viruses run from him.

Almost seems as if this miracle treatment will also backfire since it will only be available to the very rich and powerful. Starting to detect a pattern here ...

[LisaL]

69. Yep, Trump got teams of doctors taking care of him, and experimental very expensive treatment.

A regular person in many cases is not going to get any of that.
And with covid cases exploding, a regular person would have to be near death to be admitted. And they aren't prescribing any meds for those not admitted.