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OnlinePoker

(5,950 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:36 AM Oct 2020

Unique Biden/Harris sign destroyed by fire - the hate is palpable

24 hours after it was installed, this happened:



From this Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/j8bq2d/friend_built_this_bidenharris_billboard_on_her/

And here is a news article about it:

A novel endorsement of the Biden/Harris presidential ticket went up in flames Friday night in Dalton, halting traffic on Route 9 and prompting an investigation into whether the fire was deliberately set.

A little after 6:30 p.m., a stack of 19 oversized and wrapped hay bales bearing the Democratic Party candidates’ names caught fire, sending smoke across the busy state road near Holiday Brook Farm.

Dicken Crane, the farm’s owner, said Dalton police and fire officials were at the farm Friday night, investigating.

https://www.berkshireeagle.com/cause-of-blaze-that-destroyed-biden-harris-hay-bales-probed-in-dalton/article_5fc1b558-0a93-11eb-8484-83ac21f4a096.html

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Unique Biden/Harris sign destroyed by fire - the hate is palpable (Original Post) OnlinePoker Oct 2020 OP
That is about $2000 worth of arson. alphafemale Oct 2020 #1
The end game is burning people. My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #2
If you're referring to the Nazis, they gassed people. cwydro Oct 2020 #22
Not Firm Ground To Stand On, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2020 #26
"Where They Have Burned Books, They Will End Up Burning People" Heinrich Heine My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #30
Have you visited any camps? Seen the ovens? cwydro Oct 2020 #35
This Is Past The Point Of Any Gain, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2020 #37
You know nothing of me, dear. cwydro Oct 2020 #39
Thank You For the Moment's Laughter.... The Magistrate Oct 2020 #40
Bingo. paleotn Oct 2020 #28
Spontaneous combustion is a possibility too. NurseJackie Oct 2020 #3
I agree MichaelSoE Oct 2020 #9
Oil was found, hay inside was cool to the touch lostnfound Oct 2020 #10
I am betting a gasoline or petro solvent was used as an accelerant. magicarpet Oct 2020 #11
The article said there was the smell of motor oil PatSeg Oct 2020 #15
The article said PatSeg Oct 2020 #14
Most farmers know this, which is why I would stagger bales in the loft with 4-6" gaps between them. TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #33
Exactally what I want to do to their signs and I won't lower my self to their level...... mitch96 Oct 2020 #4
That happened in MY state! sazemisery Oct 2020 #5
Oh, is it? That's a bummer if it's arson. soothsayer Oct 2020 #7
Well they did look like marshmallows. I hope it's the spontaneous combustion scenario soothsayer Oct 2020 #6
Definitely a lot of time and work went into that sign PatSeg Oct 2020 #16
Time, work...and Money! OnlinePoker Oct 2020 #17
Yes, which makes this far more than just PatSeg Oct 2020 #31
Ugh. That's mean soothsayer Oct 2020 #20
Very mean PatSeg Oct 2020 #32
They are losing and proving it. C_U_L8R Oct 2020 #8
Yep. I suspect so. calimary Oct 2020 #18
The Valhalla Days for 2016 - 2020 Fascism are waning,.. magicarpet Oct 2020 #12
Of course it was deliberate! Catherine Vincent Oct 2020 #13
Dicken Crane, the farm's owner, was going to use that hay to feed his animals this winter. Botany Oct 2020 #19
Most jurisdictions damage over $1,000 makes the tort a felony localroger Oct 2020 #23
And that person or persons put the public and fire dept. personal @ risk with that stunt. Botany Oct 2020 #25
A tort is a civil claim Yeehah Oct 2020 #29
Yep, thanks /nt localroger Oct 2020 #36
As an aside MissB Oct 2020 #21
The Republican way of campaigning DFW Oct 2020 #24
Even though Massachusetts is a BLUE state, they still have RWNJs FakeNoose Oct 2020 #27
I hope they rebuild nt Baltimike Oct 2020 #34
I find it ironic that they were willing to burn the American flag. OnlinePoker Oct 2020 #38
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. If you're referring to the Nazis, they gassed people.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:10 AM
Oct 2020

Small point, but there it is.

The ovens were used to cremate.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
26. Not Firm Ground To Stand On, Ma'am
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:25 AM
Oct 2020

Much too early in the morning to refresh recollection, but the ovens often were used for infants and prisoners who from resistance groups, or just chosen for ire or fun by the guards. This is without getting into numerous instances of the Jews in a town being herded into buildings which were then set afire. Most of the killing was of that point-blank retail sort, rather than the wholesale industrial processes eventually put in place.

My Pet Orangutan

(11,455 posts)
30. "Where They Have Burned Books, They Will End Up Burning People" Heinrich Heine
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:40 AM
Oct 2020

Engraved on the Bibliotek memorial in the Bebelplatz square, Unter den Linden, Berlin.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
37. This Is Past The Point Of Any Gain, Ma'am
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:47 AM
Oct 2020

I have much to do today, and prefer to keep a clear mind. I am quite familiar with the history we are discussing. Your tourist jaunts endow you with no especial knowledge of the course of the extermination project, nor much fine-grained detail of practices throughout occupied territory in both the east and the west. Despite descent into more than my accustomed waspishness, I assure you I feel no animosity towards you.

Be well, and stay safe.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
39. You know nothing of me, dear.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:59 AM
Oct 2020

The Germans were not the only ones to burn people inside dwellings...surely you’re aware?

Heard of the allies with Dresden, ourselves in My Lai? Boudicca in London (among other towns)? Hmm?

I could go on, but I feel certain that with your vast knowledge of all things, you know how many cultures indulged in this sort of thing.

I’m quite “familiar” with the history too. But I accept your retreat with good humor.

Have a lovely day now, y’hear?

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
40. Thank You For the Moment's Laughter....
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:06 PM
Oct 2020

You seem to be edging over into tu quoque apologetics here. Not a good look....

lostnfound

(16,960 posts)
10. Oil was found, hay inside was cool to the touch
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:04 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.berkshireeagle.com/cause-of-blaze-that-destroyed-biden-harris-hay-bales-probed-in-dalton/article_5fc1b558-0a93-11eb-8484-83ac21f4a096.html

Crane said that just minutes before, at 6:32 p.m., a farm employee noticed that a substance that resembled motor oil had been spread across a portion of the bales.
...
Once the fire was extinguished, Crane inspected the debris and found that hay still inside the bales was cool to the touch. “It was not spontaneous combustion,” he said, a reference to fires that start naturally, including in silage.


It’s October, not May.

magicarpet

(18,197 posts)
11. I am betting a gasoline or petro solvent was used as an accelerant.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:05 AM
Oct 2020

Arson investigators will find the residues.

(If it is not considered too politically expedient to properly and professionally investigate the cause.)

PatSeg

(50,176 posts)
15. The article said there was the smell of motor oil
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:24 AM
Oct 2020

Thus far, all evidence indicates arson.

PatSeg

(50,176 posts)
14. The article said
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:21 AM
Oct 2020

they checked the hay inside and it was cool to the touch, eliminating the possibility of spontaneous combustion. Also there was a smell of motor oil.

TheBlackAdder

(29,505 posts)
33. Most farmers know this, which is why I would stagger bales in the loft with 4-6" gaps between them.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:45 AM
Oct 2020

.

We'd get an order of several hundred bales, mostly timothy and a some alfalfa if it was nearing wintertime.

While it would cram the upper loft of the one barn, we'd also use one of the enclosed stalls to store them.

The larger rolled hay wold not go into or near the buildings.

Those who wrap the bales know to let them field dry.

.

mitch96

(15,199 posts)
4. Exactally what I want to do to their signs and I won't lower my self to their level......
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:46 AM
Oct 2020

I think smeared in pig shit is more classy..
m

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
6. Well they did look like marshmallows. I hope it's the spontaneous combustion scenario
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:49 AM
Oct 2020

Very creative sign though. Lot of effort there!

PatSeg

(50,176 posts)
16. Definitely a lot of time and work went into that sign
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:26 AM
Oct 2020

Very sad.

Article indicates it didn't appear possible that it was spontaneous combustion: Once the fire was extinguished, Crane inspected the debris and found that hay still inside the bales was cool to the touch. “It was not spontaneous combustion,” he said, a reference to fires that start naturally, including in silage."

OnlinePoker

(5,950 posts)
17. Time, work...and Money!
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:28 AM
Oct 2020

Hay can get pretty expensive and it's not like it wouldn't get used after the election was over.

PatSeg

(50,176 posts)
31. Yes, which makes this far more than just
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:43 AM
Oct 2020

a prank. It can be considered a serious crime, not to mention a fire that size is dangerous.

PatSeg

(50,176 posts)
32. Very mean
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:44 AM
Oct 2020

Some people have far too much time on their hands and too much hate in their hearts.

calimary

(86,251 posts)
18. Yep. I suspect so.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:29 AM
Oct 2020

They’re gonna go down kicking and screaming.

Our side better stay awake.

magicarpet

(18,197 posts)
12. The Valhalla Days for 2016 - 2020 Fascism are waning,..
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:18 AM
Oct 2020

... as the Nazis run for cover under the nearest slimy rock.

They well realize their days are numbered.
Acts of last gasp desperation will be common practice for these Neanderthals.

Buckle up,.. & a fix your crash helmets.

Botany

(74,130 posts)
19. Dicken Crane, the farm's owner, was going to use that hay to feed his animals this winter.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:31 AM
Oct 2020

According to the article he had bought that hay to supplement the hay he produces on his
farm for $75.00 per bale. This act will not stop what is going to happen in the election it
will just make for more Biden voters.

localroger

(3,758 posts)
23. Most jurisdictions damage over $1,000 makes the tort a felony
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:15 AM
Oct 2020

Jail time, motherfuckers.

Botany

(74,130 posts)
25. And that person or persons put the public and fire dept. personal @ risk with that stunt.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:23 AM
Oct 2020

More charges there and he/she (I really doubt it is a she) can also be billed for the fire run too.

I guarantee that person or persons are fed hate talk from Rush, Hannity, News Max, and so on
24/7.

MissB

(16,317 posts)
21. As an aside
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:46 AM
Oct 2020

We used to have our young boys (now young adults) convinced that these bundles of hay were actually very large marshmallows, grown in the field.

Anyway, a pox on the person responsible for burning these field marshmallows.

FakeNoose

(37,338 posts)
27. Even though Massachusetts is a BLUE state, they still have RWNJs
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:29 AM
Oct 2020

For all we know there might even be some Proud Boys or Oath Keepers around there. The rightwing weirdos are everywhere, and we should always be vigilant. This is wanton destruction, and it needs to be labelled as "rightwing violence."

It's fortunate that the owners weren't injured, and apparently there's no permanent damage to their property, thanks to the quick action by the local fire department.


OnlinePoker

(5,950 posts)
38. I find it ironic that they were willing to burn the American flag.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:54 AM
Oct 2020

Isn't that something they always accuse "Antifa" and the dreaded "socialists" of doing?

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