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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:27 PM

Debate thread #2

Q-tip taking up more than his share of time, interrupting and not answering questions

Harris being her amazing and beautiful, eloquent self

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flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 OP
nolabear Oct 2020 #1
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #2
spooky3 Oct 2020 #22
uponit7771 Oct 2020 #3
BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #4
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #7
BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #17
BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #8
BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #33
iluvtennis Oct 2020 #102
still_one Oct 2020 #5
nolabear Oct 2020 #6
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #9
chowder66 Oct 2020 #15
consider_this Oct 2020 #10
consider_this Oct 2020 #11
RainCaster Oct 2020 #12
uponit7771 Oct 2020 #13
bdamomma Oct 2020 #14
smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #107
Sunsky Oct 2020 #16
tishaLA Oct 2020 #18
consider_this Oct 2020 #19
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #20
still_one Oct 2020 #21
spooky3 Oct 2020 #29
still_one Oct 2020 #41
phylny Oct 2020 #23
Stargleamer Oct 2020 #24
JohnnyLib2 Oct 2020 #25
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #26
bdamomma Oct 2020 #37
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #55
maui902 Oct 2020 #75
H2O Man Oct 2020 #27
phylny Oct 2020 #28
H2O Man Oct 2020 #32
Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #69
Mossfern Oct 2020 #30
Mersky Oct 2020 #31
Mossfern Oct 2020 #34
still_one Oct 2020 #35
NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #76
maui902 Oct 2020 #99
still_one Oct 2020 #100
SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #36
bdamomma Oct 2020 #47
Mossfern Oct 2020 #38
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #39
Ilsa Oct 2020 #40
DSandra Oct 2020 #42
consider_this Oct 2020 #43
JohnnyLib2 Oct 2020 #46
BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #44
still_one Oct 2020 #45
consider_this Oct 2020 #48
nolabear Oct 2020 #49
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #74
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #81
Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #97
Mossfern Oct 2020 #50
uponit7771 Oct 2020 #51
bdamomma Oct 2020 #95
consider_this Oct 2020 #52
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #53
helpisontheway Oct 2020 #54
still_one Oct 2020 #58
GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #103
still_one Oct 2020 #104
Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #101
bdamomma Oct 2020 #56
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #57
Renew Deal Oct 2020 #59
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #60
consider_this Oct 2020 #61
Lars39 Oct 2020 #62
ancianita Oct 2020 #63
Marthe48 Oct 2020 #64
NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #65
Mossfern Oct 2020 #66
murdock744 Oct 2020 #67
PA Democrat Oct 2020 #68
Renew Deal Oct 2020 #70
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #71
consider_this Oct 2020 #72
Renew Deal Oct 2020 #73
padah513 Oct 2020 #78
BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #88
Mossfern Oct 2020 #77
ancianita Oct 2020 #78
consider_this Oct 2020 #80
phylny Oct 2020 #84
consider_this Oct 2020 #87
phylny Oct 2020 #90
VivaResitance Oct 2020 #82
Renew Deal Oct 2020 #83
still_one Oct 2020 #85
Mossfern Oct 2020 #86
superpatriotman Oct 2020 #89
consider_this Oct 2020 #91
Mersky Oct 2020 #92
flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #93
IcyPeas Oct 2020 #94
peggysue2 Oct 2020 #96
LuvLoogie Oct 2020 #98
NJCher Oct 2020 #106
wnylib Oct 2020 #108
NJCher Oct 2020 #109
wnylib Oct 2020 #110
Silent3 Oct 2020 #105

Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:28 PM

1. Yeah, he's not helping at all. And he looks creepy not helping.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:29 PM

2. Pence lying that Trump has paid tens of millions in taxes

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

22. did you hear him include things like payroll taxes? Hey, Pence, those are NOT INCOME TAXES

and if the NYTimes is wrong about those, then produce the returns to prove it.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:29 PM

3. K&R, Pence just keeps droning on and on

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:29 PM

4. I always said he was nothing but a wooden mannequin

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:30 PM

7. not wood. wood was alive

he's more of a plastic mannequin

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

17. ....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:30 PM

8. We call him the wax dummy in our house...

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:36 PM

33. ...



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:58 PM

102. Love it. nt

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:29 PM

5. Damnit, Pence keeps speaking after his time is up, and most of his answers he is saying nothing

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:29 PM

6. Kicking the thread. Kamala is killing!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:30 PM

9. Science!!! yes

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

15. That was awesome the way she looked over at him and stressed Science!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:31 PM

10. YES - she speaks up for Science!

Imagine.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:32 PM

11. LIAR Pence! EOM

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:32 PM

12. Pence needs to know that every time he lies...

Another baby is aborted.
Maybe he would slow down the bullshit stream.

This guy has more shit than my septic tank

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:32 PM

13. Obama handed them 4.6 UE rate !!! omfg

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:32 PM

14. Pence

bowing for king on his knees.

Kamala is strong, and answering the questions.

Pence is FULL OF SHIT.


Green new deal, something trump and pence hate.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:20 PM

107. Hear, hear!

Thank you, bdamomma! He is working my last fucking nerve.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

16. Pence is no different than Trump

He's holding his own debate. He's ignoring the moderator's questions going on his own tirade and interrupting Kamala.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

18. To those concerned she's not being aggressive enough

She has a delicate balance because they'd love to push "Angry Black Lady" stories. She needs to use a velvet glove and a smile.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

19. He has learned well from his orange master.

Just say shit and morans will believe it.

sad sad sad.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

20. Kamala is wiping the floor with a giant wooden Q-Tip!

And looking amazing while she does it!!!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:33 PM

21. Kamala should have been specific. No one over 400K will be paying more taxes.

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Response to still_one (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

29. she just said that but after she says, "I'm speaking" she needs to keep talking

because he continues to talk and is stealing her time AND LYING.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

41. I jumped the gun on that

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:34 PM

23. I'm waiting for her to say, "You're lying, Mike!"

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:34 PM

24. Pence - "The slowest economic recovery on record"

this bs again, and again, and again. Pres. Obama inherited the biggest recession since the Depression, and that, plus Republican obstacles, is why recovery was slow.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:34 PM

25. Pence hasn't made any original point at all.



Everything he says has been said by Trump, Limbaugh or the other radio mouths. Robot!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:34 PM

26. Shut up Pence for chrissakes where's the moderator?

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:37 PM

37. I am waiting

for Kamala to say "shut up man"

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:42 PM

55. she is probably dying to



or call him a clown

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:47 PM

75. Senator Harris (and VP Biden)

needs to be prepared with a very strong statement to use when Pence (and if Trump debates again, Trump) interrupt or ignore the time limits. Basically, she and he need to be prepared to say something to the effect of "Both of us agreed to debate rules that are designed to ensure that the audience hears our answers to the questions posed. But just like President Trump, Vice President Pence continues to ignore the rules by interrupting me, repeatedly, by ignoring the time limits, and by refusing the answer the question asked. It's disrespectful to me, it's disrespectful to the moderator, and it's disrespectful to the audience."

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

27. Recommended.

This is great! Senator Harris is even better than I expected, and Pence is, well, Pence.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

28. She is good. I adore her.

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Response to phylny (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:36 PM

32. +1

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Response to phylny (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:45 PM

69. Me too.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

30. Wow

" I was speaking."

Pence is just being a more soft spoken Trump in this debate.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

31. "There was a time when our country believed in science."

Srsly cuts a look at him.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:36 PM

34. Good for you Kamala!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:36 PM

35. Fuck pence, and the moderator is letting him interrupt and violate the rules.

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Response to still_one (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:47 PM

76. Susan is awful

 

BFF with Seema Vermin.

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Response to still_one (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:54 PM

99. When the moderator has lost control

which she has, Senator Harris is absolutely entitled to go nuclear on responding to Pence's continual disrespect for the rules. The audience sees it, but if Harris (who is doing very well) can interject, at the right moment, with a statement calling Pence on the carpet for ignoring the rules and disrespecting the audience and the debate, I think it would be a seminal moment, because it recalls the "shitshow" that Trump put on in the first presidential debate and reflects the disrespect this administration has for the rules of governing--in short, the rules don't apply to us, they just apply to everyone else. Call him out, Senator Harris!

For the record, I think she's performing really well, and the TV audience can see it.

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Response to maui902 (Reply #99)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:56 PM

100. Exactly

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:37 PM

36. He interrupted me and I'd like to finish.

 

THAT is what she needed to say!

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:39 PM

47. she has told

a few him times I am talking.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:37 PM

38. Since when is fraking

a health care issue?

Pence is just throwing shit to see what sticks.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

39. Climate Change topic coming up!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

40. She missed a great opportunity to compare four years of

Obama's job growth vs trump's.

I love how she puts him in his place.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

42. The Republican Party is the conartist party, every Democrat needs to remember that

When you debate and go up against a Republican, you are going up against a skilled slimy cunning bullshitter. Prepare accordingly.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

43. WTF!!! Pence pround of their record on water and climate??????????

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Response to consider_this (Reply #43)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:39 PM

46. Fact checkers gonna love that one.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:39 PM

44. Pence is the perfect swamp rat

After a lifetime in politics he remains a faceless emotionless lying bureaucrat with little to show except for an ability to lie fluently and wince and squint when anyone tries to put his feet to the fire.

He destroyed a state and now hes killing over a quarter of a million Americans.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:39 PM

45. Kamala let the fucker have it

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:40 PM

48. Let's hope lies and fear are not going to work at the polls this time around.

That is all he's got.

Shut up, Pence.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:40 PM

49. I cannot figure why people want fossil fuel.

Do they just not care? Are they snowed? Do they not extrapolate that new energy means new jobs?

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Response to nolabear (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:47 PM

74. I don't think they realize that there could be a win-win (more jobs, save the planet)

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #74)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

81. "Joe Biden is responsible for saving the auto industry, and YOU voted against it!"

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #81)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:54 PM

97. Hammered him she did...fuck pence.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:40 PM

50. Not true Mike

Green energy and Paris climate accord works - idiot.
Lying about fraking.
Wildfire need forest management - FEDERAL forests.
No more hurricaines than 100 years ago.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:40 PM

51. Oh God, this guy just drones on and on ... and on and on

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #51)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:52 PM

95. moderator

is not cutting him off.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:40 PM

52. blatant climate change denier and hog of debate time. jerk.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:41 PM

53. trump and pence future:

v

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:41 PM

54. Kamala is fantastic! Yeah the asshole is interrupting but I think she

has been delivering her points. Most people know that the Trump/Pence administration lies.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #54)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:43 PM

58. Problem is when he starts speaking over his time limit, Harris needs to jump in

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Response to still_one (Reply #58)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:04 PM

103. She knows it's best to let an ass be an ass ...

when she has an audience.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #103)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:05 PM

104. Unfortunately I don't think that will resonate

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #54)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:56 PM

101. She is getting her points out.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:43 PM

56. Trump

does not believe in science.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:43 PM

57. "Do you know this administration took the words "science" and "climate change" off the website?

Let's talk about who is prepared to lead our country on what is an existential threat to our planet. Joe has a plan, and the current administration wants to go backward.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

59. Environment is getting a lot of attention.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

60. he's repeating himself

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

61. GREAT rebut to his climate lacking BS by Kamala!

Facts, science and great she pointed out how the took science and climate off website - true, and outrageous and evidence of who they are.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

62. Pence is floundering on environment

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

63. THREE times so far he's gone over his stop time. FIVE times interrupted, once at length,

cutting into Harris' answer time. Within 35 minutes.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

64. looks like pence has red eyes

I wonder if he is sick or tired.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

65. I can't watch anymore

 

I'm ready to throw something at this liar Pence.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

66. Pence is not admitting that

climate change is an existential threat.
Word salad.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:45 PM

67. Kamala is kicking ass!

 

NOT banning fracking!! Completely embarrassing Pence on the facts!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:45 PM

68. Pence doesn't like talking about climate change.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:46 PM

70. Harris: US has lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs because of the trade war.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:46 PM

71. Harris: "Trump lost the trade war with China, lost more jobs than any other administration"

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:46 PM

72. She has CONVICTION and truth

he is a bs spinner.

I think it is obvious to anyone.

We cheer for her, but I gotta think maybe even some trumpers might see this difference?!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:47 PM

73. Page always allows Pence to "respond" but not Harris.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #73)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

78. Page

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #73)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:50 PM

88. I wonder how many viewers have changed the channel?

2 hours is more Mike Pence than anyone can possibly stand watching.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:47 PM

77. "Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for Communist China"

More than 15 seconds Mike.
We need mic cuts in these debates.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

78. Pence would fail more fact checks than pass them. Only HE is "entitled to his own facts."

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

80. Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice Pre

time to say
SHUT UP, Vice President!

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Response to consider_this (Reply #80)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

84. He looks like an idiot by his trampling over the rules.

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Response to phylny (Reply #84)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:49 PM

87. Trumpers love that!

Bully = Power.

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Response to consider_this (Reply #87)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:50 PM

90. Trumpers love it, but the majority of our country aren't Trumpers and

can see the liar and bully for who he is.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

82. Kamala

Is about to reach across the table and smack him.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

83. Halfway through

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:49 PM

85. Kamala when pence spews bullshit, interrupt him!!!!!!!!!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:49 PM

86. Pence not answering question again

Why even bother asking them?

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:50 PM

89. The Senator will make a fine President

Nt

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:50 PM

91. Cut Mike's mic already!

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:51 PM

92. "Let's set the record straight. Joe Biden saved the auto industry, and

you voted against it. Thank you, that is all.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:51 PM

94. oooh yeah undoing everything Obama accomplished

LOVE HER

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:53 PM

96. The only strategy that Trump, Pence and their enablers have is constant

interruption and alternate facts, aka lies. Btw, did you know that Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for Communist China? Pence just declared that because Kamala had the audacity to state that Trump lost the trade deal/war with China. And Kamala is more liberal than Bernie Sanders, too. Bet Bernie's surprised.

OMG.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:54 PM

98. Kamala should have been more prepared on the environment.

She should have been ready with numbers and consequences.

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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #98)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:18 PM

106. fly on Pence's hair!!



freaking fly will not go away.

Red eyes and a fly. What's that sound like?

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Response to NJCher (Reply #106)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 11:37 PM

108. That fly gave me something to wonder about.

Can a fly spread coronavirus like flies and mosquitoes can spread other diseases?

If Pence is positive for covid and hiding it, is that fly a carrier?

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Response to wnylib (Reply #108)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

109. I kinda' doubt it

but that [email protected]#$ker Pence better be able to produce some negative Corona tests.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #109)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 12:00 AM

110. OK. Was just wondering 'cause it was

the mosquitoes on rats that spread Bubonic Plague.

But, then, flies are not mosquitoes. Flies just hang around garbage and rotted life forms.

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