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*FLORIDA: Biden 51%, Trump 40% PENNSYLVANIA: Biden 54%, Trump 41% IOWA: Biden 50%, Trump 45%* (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2020 OP
Great .... Eliot Rosewater Oct 2020 #1
The state polls seem to be all over the place today Claustrum Oct 2020 #2
Florida by 9 points?!?!?! Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #3
11 points. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #8
So big it screwed up my math skills... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #12
National polls seem to indicate a huge shift among older Americans towards Biden. Statistical Oct 2020 #16
Nice 2.8% MOE, but 9% undecided/3rd party in FL? Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #4
Is Trump pushing some supporters to 3rd party candidates Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #20
!!!!! Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #5
Quinnipiac has seem more ... optimistic? imho Roland99 Oct 2020 #6
Encouraging numbers Zambero Oct 2020 #7
Also, maybe put Quinnipiac in the title Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #9
Iowa most surprising to me frazzled Oct 2020 #10
Obama won Iowa twice greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #18
Yeah, I don't know about the FL poll. lark Oct 2020 #11
Maybe killing off a bunch of seniors by ignoring a pandemic ain't good strategy... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #13
Florida is a shocker to me. If we win Florida it's going to be because of MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #15
My 78 year old aunt in Florida switched to Biden because of Social Security and the debate Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #26
That's such great news!! MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #29
Ya think? lark Oct 2020 #24
Yeah I think the shoes on the other foot this year... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #27
Not true, of late. MontanaFarmer Oct 2020 #19
There hasn't been a legitimate poll that has shown Trump ahead in Florida in a long time BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #22
Not saying I am banking on these numbers, but..... Happy Hoosier Oct 2020 #14
Nate and Dave are concern trolling Jamesyu Oct 2020 #17
I think Nate's Q4 revenue projection was heavily reliant on a horse race BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #23
Florida is looking to go blue again. Scurrilous Oct 2020 #21
Florida MoonlitKnight Oct 2020 #25
Vote like it's tied people. Vote, vote, vote! EleanorR Oct 2020 #28

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. The state polls seem to be all over the place today
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:09 PM
Oct 2020

These state polls are "landslide" territory while the earlier OH, WI, NV are in "not super bad for Trump" territory.

But nonetheless, Trump is losing right now.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
16. National polls seem to indicate a huge shift among older Americans towards Biden.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:33 PM
Oct 2020

Florida has a lot of older voters.

Johnny2X2X

(18,975 posts)
5. !!!!!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:10 PM
Oct 2020

Yes, now some of the state polls that are coming in are reflecting the Trump collapse of the debates and with getting Covid-19.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
6. Quinnipiac has seem more ... optimistic? imho
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:10 PM
Oct 2020

haven't looked at them compared to the average trendline, though

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
7. Encouraging numbers
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:11 PM
Oct 2020

Especially séeing Florida moving away from the "statistical tie" that earlier polls have shown. Iowa until recently "leaning Trump", is also heading in the right direction.

lark

(23,067 posts)
11. Yeah, I don't know about the FL poll.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:14 PM
Oct 2020

All others have drumpf in the lead or tied and I am still seeing asshole trumpers with signs and red gear. Plus FL has a hackable voting system and repugs always steal the election, Russia got in so deep it could have changed votes in 2016 and probably did and will do so again, to an even greater degree. I don't think we should count on either FL or WI that both have the same type of insecure - on purpose - voting software.

MaryMagdaline

(6,851 posts)
15. Florida is a shocker to me. If we win Florida it's going to be because of
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:28 PM
Oct 2020

Social Security and Covid. Seniors are the only people who “cought” Trump saying he would eliminate payroll taxes. Frightening words.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
26. My 78 year old aunt in Florida switched to Biden because of Social Security and the debate
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:04 PM
Oct 2020

She called me at 11 PM yesterday to let me know. She already voted absentee for Biden. I was semi speechless because I assumed she would go for Trump again. She watches the local Fox affiliate all day long.

But a month ago I told her about Social Security ending in mid 2023 if Trump is re-elected. I don't think she believed it until watching the debate. Trump's behavior during the debate really turned her off. She said that was the clinching factor.

My aunt voted Obama twice, but was so mesmerized by Trump in 2016 she not only voted for him but changed registration to Republican for the first time in her life. Her new friends were widows who brainwashed her into pro-GOP, including sending all the bogus crap about Hillary to her on Facebook.

lark

(23,067 posts)
24. Ya think?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:41 PM
Oct 2020

4 repugs I know who voted for drumpf last time will not do so this time. Only 1 f them is voting Biden, the rest are writing in a repug not running, but hey minus 4 drumpf votes is a good start.

Wounded Bear

(58,606 posts)
27. Yeah I think the shoes on the other foot this year...
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:08 PM
Oct 2020

3rd party votes will likely hurt Trump more than Biden.

They're saying we don't have "enthusiasm." I trust dogged determination a lot more than vapid enthusiasm.

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
19. Not true, of late.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:57 PM
Oct 2020
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/florida/

Joe has been building a lead there the past couple weeks. Still suspect Q is a bit optimistic but I think we're leading Fl as of now.

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
22. There hasn't been a legitimate poll that has shown Trump ahead in Florida in a long time
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:20 PM
Oct 2020

There have been multiples showing Biden with a 2-5 pt lead.

 

Jamesyu

(259 posts)
17. Nate and Dave are concern trolling
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:34 PM
Oct 2020

Saying Q is an outlier though they could be but it’s hilarious seeing them lose it on twitter over this.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
21. Florida is looking to go blue again.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:16 PM
Oct 2020
Nearly 1 million ballots cast in Florida before Election Day

'Florida voters have already cast nearly one million ballots in the 2020 general election, according to the United States Elections Project.'

'Wednesday’s data shows nearly 5.5 million vote-by-mail ballots were requested in Florida with around 2.5 million were registered democrat and 1.7 million were registered republican. Democrats take the lead as nearly 500,000 ballots have already been returned compared to approximately 270,000 republicans mailing in their vote.'

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/10/07/nearly-1-million-ballots-cast-in-florida-before-election-day/

Go Heat!

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
25. Florida
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:50 PM
Oct 2020

Not likely to be that far ahead for Joe. It’s just the way it goes in Florida.

BUT, it does show what I have been hearing, especially from Republicans. About 1 in 4 of the limited but not tiny number I have talked to are saying they will leave the president line blank. So that could account for some of the 9%. But I don’t trust they will actually do it.

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