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Did you see him standing at the White House right after he took off his mask? He's having MAJOR.... (Original Post) George II Oct 2020 OP
Yes! Mouth breathing and I think he suppressed a cough or two soothsayer Oct 2020 #1
Yeah, noticed that. He put his makeup back on Marius25 Oct 2020 #2
I was about to post the same thing. phylny Oct 2020 #3
A modest homecoming Turbineguy Oct 2020 #4
And he is saluting the frigging air! l Maraya1969 Oct 2020 #5
All that saluting must have made his bone spurs hurt like hell ironflange Oct 2020 #37
Good - keep the cameras on him... Moostache Oct 2020 #6
Uh yeah Enterstageleft Oct 2020 #30
Now that would really be quality Reality TV! Brother Mythos Oct 2020 #52
Dude... LuvLoogie Oct 2020 #63
Yes, I saw that, he became shot of breath after taking the stairs so he had to take his mask 😷 off LuvJoe Oct 2020 #7
Nahhhhh - he's just having an orgasm over all the attention. Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #8
+1 pandr32 Oct 2020 #13
That would be some true demon sperm. Celerity Oct 2020 #23
Thank heavens it's just in his diaper. Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #28
QAnonettes of proper breeding age would probably fight to the death over the spermed-up nappy Celerity Oct 2020 #32
Who could refuse such a queen. Swoon Tribetime Oct 2020 #34
Does it bite and scratch? Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #36
Better keep the hand sanitizer handy ironflange Oct 2020 #40
Oil-dissolving dish soap is far cheaper & very effective against coronaviruses, as it destroys the Celerity Oct 2020 #73
Lights on, nobody's home. nt OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2020 #50
I just turned it on. His face looks swollen, and I don't think he looked well. I don't want Joe still_one Oct 2020 #9
swollen face and neck can be sign, side effect of massive steroid doses. Captain Zero Oct 2020 #14
Steroids will do that. Prednisone is notorious for it and I expect BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #15
Is that the one that gives men man boobs? displacedtexan Oct 2020 #29
LOL no.... BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #31
I know, but usually it takes time for that to occur. If they are infusing a huge dose like 1 gram still_one Oct 2020 #48
I speculated last week that before they took him to Walter Reed BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #55
will he be stupid enough bdamomma Oct 2020 #49
That actually crossed my mind. BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #57
would he even bdamomma Oct 2020 #64
All I can say is that I hope he and his ilk stay away from me. BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #65
Pumpkin-head effect from the steroids obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #26
I turned it off, thanks for filling me in. BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #10
Yes WA-03 Democrat Oct 2020 #39
Yes WA-03 Democrat Oct 2020 #44
Yes BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #11
He destroyed our country, so why would he not destroy himself? DonaldsRump Oct 2020 #12
And he's propped up with a shit ton of steroids C_U_L8R Oct 2020 #16
He's gonna croak FakeNoose Oct 2020 #17
I don't know whether he dies, but I seriously doubt that he will be healthy enough Blue_true Oct 2020 #42
Or at least before the election.. ananda Oct 2020 #74
I Agree... jayfish Oct 2020 #18
CNN host said this looks like something out of North Korea! Sad but true! n/t napi21 Oct 2020 #19
Well he did walk up two flights of stairs jcgoldie Oct 2020 #20
Not as winded as he was standing up there. George II Oct 2020 #21
any links? Kali Oct 2020 #22
I'm sure CNN will have it on their site sometime tonight, or replayed on television..... George II Oct 2020 #27
found one, yeah really gasping Kali Oct 2020 #38
That's better than the one with which I just responded to you. So, you see what I mean. George II Oct 2020 #41
Looks like he's about to croak Tribetime Oct 2020 #46
As someone who has lived with COPD for 20 years misanthrope Oct 2020 #53
what a sick literally bdamomma Oct 2020 #56
That is a being trying to look better than it feels Maeve Oct 2020 #66
I have breathing problems too. Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #71
Here's a short video of him after he was huffing and puffing. He's clearly trying to suppress it.... George II Oct 2020 #33
I would bet he wanted back in the WH to cover up how sick he really is. icymist Oct 2020 #59
He looked like he was getting ready to barf but trying to hold it in until he got inside. llmart Oct 2020 #70
Reaping what he's sown.. Chief COVID SPREADER Cha Oct 2020 #24
Someone says this daily. nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #25
Kind of looked unsteady on his feet, too. AngryOldDem Oct 2020 #35
He's definitely wobbly. nt. Mariana Oct 2020 #68
Good BainsBane Oct 2020 #43
Meh I dunno... SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #45
OMG, looked ready to drop Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #47
Struggling to get oxygen, grimacing because he's in pain. Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #51
His hubris will kill him XanaDUer2 Oct 2020 #54
That has been on my mind. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2020 #67
Works for me . . . hatrack Oct 2020 #72
Without question. He's fighting to get air ... Laelth Oct 2020 #58
What's with the salute? It was creepy as hell. crickets Oct 2020 #60
He should be charged with attempting to murder! Lock him up. Oct 2020 #61
Another video: Marius25 Oct 2020 #62
Holy shit! He looks terrible there! nt Quixote1818 Oct 2020 #69

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
6. Good - keep the cameras on him...
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:11 PM
Oct 2020

I will watch him die on replay until the end of time and smile and laugh while doing it...I hope his head bounces off the ground a couple times for good effect after he blacks out and goes down...slo-mo replay of his melon splitting in two would be FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC viewing.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
52. Now that would really be quality Reality TV!
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:44 PM
Oct 2020

Like I've often heard said, "Give the people what they want."

Celerity

(43,134 posts)
32. QAnonettes of proper breeding age would probably fight to the death over the spermed-up nappy
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:27 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Carry a Trumplette spawn to term in their holy vessel.

She would

Book it

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
36. Does it bite and scratch?
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:29 PM
Oct 2020


You might have solved Chump's COVID subterfuge...
It's not COVID - It's Cat Scratch Fever!

Celerity

(43,134 posts)
73. Oil-dissolving dish soap is far cheaper & very effective against coronaviruses, as it destroys the
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:48 PM
Oct 2020

protein-based viral envelopes (E) protein and membranes (M) protein .

Coronavirus envelope protein

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-019-1182-0

The coronaviral genome encodes four major structural proteins: the spike (S) protein, nucleocapsid (N) protein, membrane (M) protein, and the envelope (E) protein, all of which are required to produce a structurally complete viral particle [29, 37, 38]. More recently, however, it has become clear that some CoVs do not require the full ensemble of structural proteins to form a complete, infectious virion, suggesting that some structural proteins might be dispensable or that these CoVs might encode additional proteins with overlapping compensatory functions [35, 37, 39,40,41,42]. Individually, each protein primarily plays a role in the structure of the virus particle, but they are also involved in other aspects of the replication cycle. The S protein mediates attachment of the virus to the host cell surface receptors and subsequent fusion between the viral and host cell membranes to facilitate viral entry into the host cell [42,43,44]. In some CoVs, the expression of S at the cell membrane can also mediate cell-cell fusion between infected and adjacent, uninfected cells. This formation of giant, multinucleated cells, or syncytia, has been proposed as a strategy to allow direct spreading of the virus between cells, subverting virus-neutralising antibodies [45,46,47].

Unlike the other major structural proteins, N is the only protein that functions primarily to bind to the CoV RNA genome, making up the nucleocapsid [48]. Although N is largely involved in processes relating to the viral genome, it is also involved in other aspects of the CoV replication cycle and the host cellular response to viral infection [49]. Interestingly, localisation of N to the endoplasmic reticulum (ER)-Golgi region has proposed a function for it in assembly and budding [50, 51]. However, transient expression of N was shown to substantially increase the production of virus-like particles (VLPs) in some CoVs, suggesting that it might not be required for envelope formation, but for complete virion formation instead [41, 42, 52, 53].

The M protein is the most abundant structural protein and defines the shape of the viral envelope [54]. It is also regarded as the central organiser of CoV assembly, interacting with all other major coronaviral structural proteins [29]. Homotypic interactions between the M proteins are the major driving force behind virion envelope formation but, alone, is not sufficient for virion formation [54,55,56]. Interaction of S with M is necessary for retention of S in the ER-Golgi intermediate compartment (ERGIC)/Golgi complex and its incorporation into new virions, but dispensable for the assembly process [37, 45, 57]. Binding of M to N stabilises the nucleocapsid (N protein-RNA complex), as well as the internal core of virions, and, ultimately, promotes completion of viral assembly [45, 58, 59]. Together, M and E make up the viral envelope and their interaction is sufficient for the production and release of VLPs [37, 60,61,62,63,64].

The E protein is the smallest of the major structural proteins, but also the most enigmatic. During the replication cycle, E is abundantly expressed inside the infected cell, but only a small portion is incorporated into the virion envelope [65]. The majority of the protein is localised at the site of intracellular trafficking, viz. the ER, Golgi, and ERGIC, where it participates in CoV assembly and budding [66]. Recombinant CoVs have lacking E exhibit significantly reduced viral titres, crippled viral maturation, or yield propagation incompetent progeny, demonstrating the importance of E in virus production and maturation [35, 39, 40, 67, 68].



still_one

(92,061 posts)
9. I just turned it on. His face looks swollen, and I don't think he looked well. I don't want Joe
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:11 PM
Oct 2020

debating him in person. It has to be remote or no debate

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
29. Is that the one that gives men man boobs?
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:21 PM
Oct 2020

I remember people saying that on an episode of Numb3rs about baseball players.

BumRushDaShow

(128,525 posts)
31. LOL no....
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:25 PM
Oct 2020

Those on " 'roids " are on some kind of synthetic testosterone.

Prednisone has been and still is used for conditions like rheumatoid arthritis and to reduce inflammation in other parts of the body including the lungs. But it can have some real nasty effects on some people.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
48. I know, but usually it takes time for that to occur. If they are infusing a huge dose like 1 gram
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:41 PM
Oct 2020

per day, in a few few days it can really mess him up


BumRushDaShow

(128,525 posts)
55. I speculated last week that before they took him to Walter Reed
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:46 PM
Oct 2020

that they probably gave him a standard dose of methylprednisolone (maybe as an IV) and probably an albuterol nebulizer treatment, along with the O2, to allow him to do that walk to the helicopter.

So I think he has been on steroids a bit longer, now with this new, more powerful one.

BumRushDaShow

(128,525 posts)
57. That actually crossed my mind.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oct 2020

IIRC, adderall is actually a stimulant, which seems counter-intuitive for someone with ADHD, but it apparently works.

bdamomma

(63,801 posts)
64. would he even
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:53 PM
Oct 2020

be more manic, I really want to see him at a rally in front of his "disgusting" people who will die for this SOB.

BumRushDaShow

(128,525 posts)
65. All I can say is that I hope he and his ilk stay away from me.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:55 PM
Oct 2020


Someone posted in another thread that he has now "weaponized" the virus.

BumRushDaShow

(128,525 posts)
11. Yes
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:12 PM
Oct 2020

It was bad enough to walk up the steps and what it would feel like if you aren't generally feeling well.

It's all a show and the now-whining media is acting SHOCKED. SHOCKED they are.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
12. He destroyed our country, so why would he not destroy himself?
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:13 PM
Oct 2020

He's going to have massive investigations (and very likely prison time) against him and his family and henchpeople when he loses, so this is existential for him: he will do ANYTHING to win.

C_U_L8R

(44,992 posts)
16. And he's propped up with a shit ton of steroids
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:14 PM
Oct 2020

He's heading for a major crash. And the virus could take advantage of it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. I don't know whether he dies, but I seriously doubt that he will be healthy enough
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:34 PM
Oct 2020

to do the debate.

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
20. Well he did walk up two flights of stairs
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:17 PM
Oct 2020

Which would probably leave the fat fuck winded on a good day.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. I'm sure CNN will have it on their site sometime tonight, or replayed on television.....
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:19 PM
Oct 2020

They've been talking about it for about 10 minutes and keep showing it over and over again.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
53. As someone who has lived with COPD for 20 years
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:44 PM
Oct 2020

He appears to me to be showing difficulty with respiration. He also looks like he's showing a little steroid bloat already.

Delmette2.0

(4,158 posts)
71. I have breathing problems too.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:18 PM
Oct 2020

I noticed that he straightened his back and shoulders. That helps expand his lungs.

We don't know if anyone has ever recommended that but he seems to believe it, now.

Also he looks like he is inhaling through his nose and exhaling through his mouth. That is another good technic for someone with breathing problems. I was told to breath like you are Smelling the Roses and Blowing out the Candles.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Here's a short video of him after he was huffing and puffing. He's clearly trying to suppress it....
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:27 PM
Oct 2020

....he's got his lips visibly clenched so he doesn't do it, but you can see he's having problems.


icymist

(15,888 posts)
59. I would bet he wanted back in the WH to cover up how sick he really is.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:49 PM
Oct 2020

I still can't believe he put all those people at risk for his neurosis and vanity.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
70. He looked like he was getting ready to barf but trying to hold it in until he got inside.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:59 PM
Oct 2020

I can relate. After watching that video, I'm getting ready to barf also.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
35. Kind of looked unsteady on his feet, too.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:29 PM
Oct 2020

Not even his orange pancake can hide just how shitty he looks.

But, keep on keepin’ on, Don! God bless!

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
43. Good
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:35 PM
Oct 2020

I didn't wish him harm until he came out and said not to be afraid of COVID. He will cause many, many more people to die because of his bullshit.

Dem2theMax

(9,641 posts)
51. Struggling to get oxygen, grimacing because he's in pain.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:42 PM
Oct 2020

Very wobbly. I bet he walks in the door and falls on the floor.

We just witnessed Republican theater!

crickets

(25,952 posts)
60. What's with the salute? It was creepy as hell.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:50 PM
Oct 2020

That's also when I had to turn off the TV because I was starting to scream mean things at it. Ugh.

Lock him up.

(6,921 posts)
61. He should be charged with attempting to murder!
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 07:50 PM
Oct 2020
Clearly putting at risk all the WH staffers walking closely near and around there (and their families).

That out-of-control psychopath should be arrested and charged with attempting to murder 'anyone nearby' and their family!
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