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I know a lot of people who read DU also watch Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 OP
I would consider campaigning for Willard to qualify as a 'Dirty Job' Siwsan Sep 2012 #1
Don't begrudge the man for taking another one of his "Dirty Jobs". corkhead Sep 2012 #2
So What? n/t bbinacan Sep 2012 #3
He's a republican proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #4
Didn't use to be - Plus he's in SAG. GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #6
Reagan was SAG president... n/t EC Sep 2012 #22
and he was a registered democrat at the time, if memory serves. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #120
They want unions for the 1%. Its the working class, and public employees they want to take Erose999 Sep 2012 #55
I didn't get that and he was very clear that he was not endorsing anyone. Skidmore Sep 2012 #66
Actually, his website seems rather non-partisan. progressoid Sep 2012 #73
Are you advocating a boycott of some kind? Bucky Sep 2012 #5
Duh! GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #7
Ever been to a Gary Oldman movie? Or a Tom Selleck movie? Bucky Sep 2012 #23
No, actually, I haven't. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #91
You can do what you want, but Hayabusa Sep 2012 #84
what a betrayal! quinnox Sep 2012 #8
I disagree DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #10
Ice Road Truckers. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #21
The first seasons of "Ice Road Truckers" centered around Canadians..... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2012 #25
Hugh Rowland, who the Tli Cho guys called "The Gardener From Down South" behind his back. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #38
Exactly A HERETIC I AM Sep 2012 #43
I can not stand his car commercials, he is sooooo fakey poo Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #11
So you're saying that aesthetically you demand ashling Sep 2012 #37
Oh my god PatSeg Sep 2012 #44
But, it's so rich! ashling Sep 2012 #50
I had forgotten how truly bad PatSeg Sep 2012 #75
How does he know all the girls at the office use it? progressoid Sep 2012 #64
My thought exactly ashling Sep 2012 #79
I find his delivery cloying and yes I do have standards for such things Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #72
Ah Prell - the shampoo that had the consistency of glue! proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #76
Remember these? ashling Sep 2012 #77
OMG yes proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #88
I wouldn't watch those shows anyway. nt valerief Sep 2012 #12
He's off my tv sammytko Sep 2012 #13
I've known fluffers with less dirty jobs. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #14
Hanging around with Team Romney qualifies as a dirty job. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #15
Thats it?? Where are the Kardashians? Oh, must be hangin' w/Akin. MichiganVote Sep 2012 #16
Or, how about dangerous jobs like logging and mining? Cleita Sep 2012 #17
boo! shanti Sep 2012 #18
That's OK with me. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2012 #19
Easy Big Fella... Blue Idaho Sep 2012 #24
Why was he on the stage then? lonestarnot Sep 2012 #27
My understanding Flatpicker Sep 2012 #31
Very good of you to point that out. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2012 #32
Na, not falling for that crap. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #40
If by "crap" you mean reality... eqfan592 Sep 2012 #62
The reality of what you were told. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #104
Problem is that this is reality nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #85
If he wanted to talk to pugs, he didn't have to do it on a stage with the dog abuser. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #106
He's tried both parties nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #108
I know that is what was said and he apparently needs attention. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #109
No, you need attention nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #110
IYO. And who is black and who is white? I'd like that answer? lonestarnot Sep 2012 #112
Thinking nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #113
How very tolerant of you. Flatpicker Sep 2012 #86
I do not tolerate pigliCONs very well. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #107
He extended the same letter and offer to Obama... vi5 Sep 2012 #63
Rowe says he addressed a similar letter to President Obama in 2009, but received no response. progressoid Sep 2012 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Adsos Letter Sep 2012 #34
Thank you. As one of my old History profs used to say... Adsos Letter Sep 2012 #35
Smelled that fucker a loooooooooooooooong time ago. Why would DUers waste their time lonestarnot Sep 2012 #26
Please provide a quote from him where he endorses romney. Edweird Sep 2012 #30
Don't need a quote. He's on the same stinkin' stage. Nough for me. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #41
I see. So you believe that two people sharing a stage indicates mutual endorsement. Edweird Sep 2012 #115
So Obama endorses the House Republicans? jeff47 Sep 2012 #121
Why would people waste time watching HappyMe Sep 2012 #42
I don't see anything in his speech that in any way endorses Romney. Edweird Sep 2012 #28
He's not Hank Jr. crazy, so I don't care. I don't watch those shows either. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #29
I think Flatpicker Sep 2012 #33
My son loves Dirty Jobs... cynatnite Sep 2012 #36
I used to love Deadliest catch Marrah_G Sep 2012 #39
Okey Dokey 2 shows to NOT watch mangermerdeRWfreaks Sep 2012 #45
I take it you are not paying any attention - he DID NOT ENDORSE MITT FrodosPet Sep 2012 #46
He is RW Scum and I do not support RW Scum mangermerdeRWfreaks Sep 2012 #47
Thank you for calling some of my family and friends scum FrodosPet Sep 2012 #48
That one may be HappyMe Sep 2012 #49
Lactose intolerant in old age, so pizza is not on the menu mangermerdeRWfreaks Sep 2012 #53
Your Welcome! mangermerdeRWfreaks Sep 2012 #51
Most of my family is repuke. And yes, they are scum. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #92
I hate racists, are the misinformed? n-t Logical Sep 2012 #94
How, exactly, did you conclude that Mike Rowe is "RW scum"? Edweird Sep 2012 #116
Reading. You may want to try it sometime. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2012 #124
He's trying to raise awareness for his cause Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #52
I agree Corgigal Sep 2012 #65
There is an intense amount of Derp in this thread. WilliamPitt Sep 2012 #54
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #68
Mob mentality minus facts = Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #74
Yup. HappyMe Sep 2012 #78
Agree 100%.... OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #87
When you're shoveling shit might as well be ultimate shit. Lint Head Sep 2012 #56
Mildly disappointing, but whatever. Democrats will have their celebs, Republicans will have theirs. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2012 #57
Daily Kos post Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #58
I don't have cable, and I don't miss it, because there are too many Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #59
Rowe's actually trying to raise awareness for his organization Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #60
Thank you for helping feed the stereotype FrodosPet Sep 2012 #80
I have no objection to people working at any legal job Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #97
You miss the point of the show. Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #105
+ 1e10^6 lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #125
Next time your plumbing explodes HappyMe Sep 2012 #81
Right, but I won't expect TV cameras to document it Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #98
Thank you for ASSUMING class bias on my part Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #99
We aren't assuming anything. We're reading your post. jeff47 Sep 2012 #122
Because I prefer not to watch stupid, boring shows? Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #128
Here's the thing you're utterly missing while looking down your nose jeff47 Sep 2012 #134
And? Xithras Sep 2012 #61
The folks that we watch on TV bigwillq Sep 2012 #67
Well he and his family use too many paper towels for things that should be cleaned otherwise LaurenG Sep 2012 #69
We're done with him, in my family. He made a fortune for himself TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #70
Are you paying attention to the facts in this thread? FrodosPet Sep 2012 #82
If Mittens were President, then I could see it as a "raising awareness" TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #93
Rowe was speaking liberal principles to a Republican crowd Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #95
But he adressed the exact same letter to the POTUS nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #114
way to go Mike Rowe! jorno67 Sep 2012 #83
"Unintentionally disconnected ourselves from our workforce." joshcryer Sep 2012 #89
Thank you for noticing! jorno67 Sep 2012 #90
We were quite disappointed to see that. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #96
This makes me like Mike Rowe more Son of Gob Sep 2012 #100
What makes you think that? Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #101
I didn't realize this some kind of experiment Son of Gob Sep 2012 #102
Not an experiment at all. Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #103
You got some brainiacs to hate Mike Rowe. Son of Gob Sep 2012 #111
Trolling is a art. Edweird Sep 2012 #117
This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith Sep 2012 #119
Meh. The alert is further proof that very few here on DU know what 'troll' means. Edweird Sep 2012 #126
I suspect you're right Son of Gob Sep 2012 #130
I just think it's a waste of time to get on the stage newspeak Sep 2012 #118
The knee-jerk hate shows us something unflattering lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #123
Are we sure Stinky did this as an experiment? Bucky Sep 2012 #129
I have it on good authority that Stinky's "social experiment" was an unanticipated result of his OP. Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #131
You forgot to add "Yeah! That's the ticket!" whistler162 Sep 2012 #133
This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #132
Mitt's attempts flyguyjake Sep 2012 #127

GoneOffShore

(17,309 posts)
6. Didn't use to be - Plus he's in SAG.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:34 PM
Sep 2012

But then so was Reagan and so is Eastwood.

They forget who protects them.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
120. and he was a registered democrat at the time, if memory serves.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:46 PM
Sep 2012

yup: Originally a member of the Democratic Party, his positions began shifting rightward in the late 1950s, and he switched to the Republican Party in 1962.

eagan was first elected to the Board of Directors of the Screen Actors Guild in 1941, serving as an alternate. Following World War II, he resumed service and became 3rd vice-president in 1946.[42] The adoption of conflict-of-interest bylaws in 1947 led the SAG president and six board members to resign; Reagan was nominated in a special election for the position of president and subsequently elected.[42] He was subsequently chosen by the membership to serve seven additional one-year terms, from 1947 to 1952 and in 1959.
Note: He resigned his presidency in 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

I've sometimes wondered if reagan wasn't a mole in sag. he certainly showed up at a most interesting time, & shortly afterward began his rise in politics culminating in the california governorship in 1967.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
55. They want unions for the 1%. Its the working class, and public employees they want to take
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:01 PM
Sep 2012

unions away from.

Witness their silence over the union issues involved with the NFL, airline pilots, and other high paying professions.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
66. I didn't get that and he was very clear that he was not endorsing anyone.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

Perhaps he had a message about working Americans he needed to deliver. It would be noteworthy if he were to show up at a Dem event too.

progressoid

(49,827 posts)
73. Actually, his website seems rather non-partisan.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:43 PM
Sep 2012

He even has a "politics" tab. Mostly deals with news concerning the working class. But doesn't appear to take a side.

http://www.mikeroweworks.com/mikes-office/politics/

Bucky

(53,806 posts)
23. Ever been to a Gary Oldman movie? Or a Tom Selleck movie?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:39 PM
Sep 2012

Or one with James Caan, John Voigt, Craig T Nelson, Kurt Russel, or Adam Sandler? Did you ever watch Frasier?

You watch Republican actors all the time. Why start something you have no intention of following through on?

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
84. You can do what you want, but
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:53 PM
Sep 2012

I have quickly learned that if I were to boycott a person or product or business that was Republican, I would be unable to shop just about anywhere. I've learned to live with that, and thus, I save the boycotts for when they do something completely idiotic.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
8. what a betrayal!
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:37 PM
Sep 2012



but seriously, I never mix entertainment with what stars political views might be, it doesn't matter. For example, I still like Clint Eastwood and am as much of a fan of his than before he spoke at the repub convention.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
9. I disagree
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:38 PM
Sep 2012

Rowe will take any forum in order to get out the message.

He has never endorsed romney (although the campaign made that false claim on Monday and walked it back this morning), never mention him, never even uttered his name.

He has offered to appear with Obama, as well. The romney folks just grabbed him first.

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Response to bluestate10 (Reply #20)

A HERETIC I AM

(24,323 posts)
25. The first seasons of "Ice Road Truckers" centered around Canadians.....
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:44 PM
Sep 2012

and thought they don't have a say in American Politics, I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE YOU that the douchenozzle, crap excuse for a truck driver Hugh "The Polar Bear" Rowland is without a doubt, a far right wing dicksniffle.

As professional driver with well over 20 years behind the wheel of heavy trucks, I can assure you that Mr. Rowland is NOT the kind of man I want to share the road with and I also guarantee he would be a Romney voter, through and through.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
38. Hugh Rowland, who the Tli Cho guys called "The Gardener From Down South" behind his back.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:45 AM
Sep 2012

That POS worked the roads when it was too cold to run his excavating/landscaping business in winter-time; he is only a 'trucker' because he needs trucks to move his equipment around from one job site to another.

One reason why he didn't actually know how to fill out a log book, or know exactly how the hours of service pertained to him.

Rowland is as much a 'trucker' as the guys running around with a backhoe on a step-deck going to dig a hole for a septic tank, or do rough grading before a lawn got installed.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,323 posts)
43. Exactly
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

I saw this one episode where he was running in Alaska. He had a flatbed and if I remember correctly, it was loaded with 3 of those large compressors on trailers, the kind where the unit looks like a metal box on two wheels. He secured the load but didn't do it right and one of the units slid forward during transit and damaged the one in front of it-actually damaging both.

He claimed that it wasn't his responsibility.

As a car hauler, I was astounded! I was yelling at the TV "Yes it is your responsibility, you fucking idiot, YOU'RE DRIVING THE TRUCK!!!"


He's an asshole. Plain and simple

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. I can not stand his car commercials, he is sooooo fakey poo
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

figures he's a republican but a Mitt plugging Republican is a special brand of stupid. I mean, he does car ads and Mitt said let Detroit go bankrupt, so Rowe is pretty fucking smug as he takes his millions from Detroit if you ask me. That kind of qualifies as assholery.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
37. So you're saying that aesthetically you demand
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:12 AM
Sep 2012

reality from your commercials? ... like this:

Nothing fakey poo here!







PatSeg

(46,815 posts)
44. Oh my god
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:24 AM
Sep 2012

That was awful! Almost as bad as Prell Shampoo that actually made one's hair "feel like straw".

PatSeg

(46,815 posts)
75. I had forgotten how truly bad
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

commercials were back then.

Not just "rich", but "Extra-Rich"! Oh I want some Prell right now!!!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
72. I find his delivery cloying and yes I do have standards for such things
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:42 PM
Sep 2012

I used to be involved with that sort of thing professionally. So yeah I do look at commercials with a critical eye. I enjoy his work on the other shows, in the commercials he seems stilted and unnatural.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. Or, how about dangerous jobs like logging and mining?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

It never failed to amaze me that people who did those jobs and often for little reward would still vote Republican.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,323 posts)
19. That's OK with me.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:26 PM
Sep 2012

I like Mike Rowe. I think "Dirty Jobs" is a good show and he is one hell of a narrator.

It's OK with me if he wants to do that sort of thing.

I am always reminded of one of the best (in my opinion) lines from the movie "An American President" starring Michael Douglas and Annette Bening, when they are at Camp David and she says to him, "These are people who say they love America but clearly can't stand Americans."

I don't want to be one of those people.

Blue Idaho

(4,993 posts)
24. Easy Big Fella...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:44 PM
Sep 2012

Mike Rowe has a Non-Profit called MikeRoweWORKS. He has spoken before Congress. His message is an apolitical celebration of hard working blue collar men and women. He promotes a variety of training programs and the honor of all work. If you look at the link you provided it clearly states he NEVER mentioned Romney's name at this event, nor did he endorse him. As mentioned earlier, the Romney campaign had to retract it's statement that Mike Rowe supports Willard the Dullard.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
31. My understanding
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:25 PM
Sep 2012

is that Mike has been looking to create a national dialog about supporting American labor and is willing to work both sides of the aisle as long as they listen.

Mitt was willing to read his letter (one that he has sent to both candidates) and brought him in to talk about his issues.

He has expressly stated that he is not endorsing Mitt with these actions, but wants the public to hear his message.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
85. Problem is that this is reality
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:55 PM
Sep 2012

not crap.

Believe it or not, this is one fella that gets it, and needs to get the message out there.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
108. He's tried both parties
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:11 PM
Sep 2012

Nor did he endorse Romney.

I know, I don't see things in black and white, sorry.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
63. He extended the same letter and offer to Obama...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:17 PM
Sep 2012

Obama did not respond to the letter (from what I understand).

Rowe did not endorse Romney. He sent the same letter with the same purpose of calling attention to the importance of blue collar workers in America and the need to create and foster these jobs. He said he would appear with whoever responded (even if both did).

He may or may not be a Republican but this is not evidence either way. He has not endorsed either candidate.

progressoid

(49,827 posts)
71. Rowe says he addressed a similar letter to President Obama in 2009, but received no response.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:35 PM
Sep 2012
Dirty Jobs host Mike Rowe accepted Mitt Romney's invitation to speak at his "micro-manufacturing roundtable" in Bedford Heights, Ohio, today, after the former penned an open letter to the latter calling for a "national conversation" on the need for more enthusiasm toward "underappreciated careers."

Rowe says he addressed a similar letter to President Obama in 2009, but received no response.




Romney described Rowe as non-partisan and not on the stage to endorse him, but said the cable host wanted the opportunity to talk about jobs in general.

...

Romney and Rowe sat onstage alongside a half dozen Ohio business owners and leaders in Bedford Heights talking jobs and manufacturing.

"He's non partisan, he's not here to endorse me, he's not here to add support to one campaign or another," Romney said of his guest. "He's here to talk about his ideas about how to help America create more jobs."

Rowe described the importance of "the men and women who do the kinds of jobs that make civilized life possible for the rest of us," and said he attended the event at the invitation of Romney.

In the face of unemployment, Rowe said, "we can't just talk about opportunity and we can't just talk about training."

"The conversation needs to start in the kitchen, around the table with moms and dads and kids, and when these kids start to think about what's possible, mothers and fathers can't immediately push options off of the table because they've bought into the idea that some jobs are better than other jobs," he said. "This gets right to a really, really, really, really big point that the things we used to consider to be inspirational - jobs that we used to consider aspirational, education that we used to consider aspirational - we now look at as alternative. I don't even know what alternative education means, alternative to what?"

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/09/26/dirty-jobs-mitt-romney/


There is an irony that he's speaking at this rRmoney event. He starts @ 6:30

Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #24)

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
26. Smelled that fucker a loooooooooooooooong time ago. Why would DUers waste their time
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:45 PM
Sep 2012

watching such suckie bullshit?

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
30. Please provide a quote from him where he endorses romney.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:24 PM
Sep 2012

Something that refutes this: "Contrary to some claims by the Romney campaign Rowe has not endorsed Mitt Romney for President." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rowe

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
115. I see. So you believe that two people sharing a stage indicates mutual endorsement.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:43 AM
Sep 2012

I see a glaring flaw in your 'logic', one which will be fun to mock with google images.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
121. So Obama endorses the House Republicans?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

Obama was on the same stinkin' stage when he attended their retreat.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
42. Why would people waste time watching
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sep 2012

sucky bullshit like American Idol, Bachelorette, or Survivor?

I like Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch, and will continue to watch them. I didn't see Mike Rowe endorsing Romney anywhere.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
28. I don't see anything in his speech that in any way endorses Romney.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:20 PM
Sep 2012

Also there's this: "Contrary to some claims by the Romney campaign Rowe has not endorsed Mitt Romney for President."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rowe

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
33. I think
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:37 PM
Sep 2012

Mixing Dirty Jobs in with other reality programming does it a disservice.

I find DJ to not be exploitative and actually can be helpful in learning about things that I would never have a chance to think about doing. I didn't know that you maintained bridges in that way.

I used to be interested in stuff like that as a kid and the engineering and maintenance of our support services still impresses me.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
36. My son loves Dirty Jobs...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sep 2012

He loves annything that has to do with building things...especially big things. I do think Rowe has been a positive influence when it comes to this stuff. I think that's why I just don't care that much about him doing this.

 
45. Okey Dokey 2 shows to NOT watch
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:27 AM
Sep 2012

I did watch both from time to time now I will not, why one may ask, because watching the shows will directly and indirectly impact his pay check and his money goes to Mitt and other RW fucwads.
I refuse to help RW scum in anyway, shape or form.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
46. I take it you are not paying any attention - he DID NOT ENDORSE MITT
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:41 AM
Sep 2012

I still don't know who he is going to vote for, but I think Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch are two shows that honor the contributions and personalities of genuine, hard working blue collar people.

For all that Mike Rowe has done for real people, I'll give him a pass on this. The man respects the working class, and if he saw this as an opportunity to help us, then good for him.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
48. Thank you for calling some of my family and friends scum
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:45 AM
Sep 2012

You are truly an honorable, enlightened, tolerant person.



I can't bring myself to hate people just because they are misinformed. That is one heck of a talent you have there.

 
51. Your Welcome!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:55 AM
Sep 2012

Perhaps your inability to see them for what they really are by being wingers is part of YOUR problem of seeing things clearly in life.

Good luck in dealing with them.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
92. Most of my family is repuke. And yes, they are scum.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:18 PM
Sep 2012

Because they support policies that actively hurt and kill people. So blow off.

Sugarcoated

(7,707 posts)
52. He's trying to raise awareness for his cause
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sep 2012

Like Bono meeting with shrub to get support for his humanitarian causes. I give Mike the benefit of the doubt. Unless someone can prove he's a Republibully, I'm reserving judgement.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
65. I agree
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:22 PM
Sep 2012

I think the man just cares about the hard working people who he has spent some time with. If Obama wants him to speak then I sure he would.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
87. Agree 100%....
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012

...and I watch both shows.

Rowe is promoting his own cause and he's willing to do whatever it takes, including standing on a stage with Mitt-less Romney.

Sad to say, but there is a tendency among some posters on any board to shoot first and ask questions later. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good fact-less rant?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,085 posts)
57. Mildly disappointing, but whatever. Democrats will have their celebs, Republicans will have theirs.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sep 2012

As long as he isn't virtiolic in his rhetoric, it's nothing more than a shrug. Won't change my viewing habits. Republican persuasion hasn't switched me off of Clint Eastwood movies or Patricia Heaton TV shows, and I don't think this is any different. I can usually seperate one's artistic efforts from their personal beliefs.

Except Donald Trump. He's just a douche. Was and will always be one.

I will say that it is funny that speaking for Mitt Romney is indeed the dirtiest job of all.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
59. I don't have cable, and I don't miss it, because there are too many
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:06 PM
Sep 2012

"reality" shows about boring, banal people doing boring, banal things. If they showed ordinary people ORGANIZING for better working conditions, that would be something exciting. But just doing their jobs? YAWN.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
80. Thank you for helping feed the stereotype
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

Please tell me you are being sarcastic! Your statement comes off as,

"I could care less about those icky boring people unless they are doing something that I am passionate about. Why don't they love and obey us and do what we want them to do?"

The Liberal/Progressive movement would be much stronger if those boring banal people doing boring banal things didn't look left and see elitism.

Thank goodness Mitt has that arrogant elitist air about him as well. If he were as relate-able as GWB (a fool, but a fool that people want to have a beer with), this might be a race.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
97. I have no objection to people working at any legal job
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:13 PM
Sep 2012

but most jobs are pretty boring and don't make great television entertainment--including mine. Wanna bring the TV cameras to my job and watch me type and look up words in a dictionary?

The current "reality" shows are nothing but a symptom of TV producers being lazy, uncreative, and cheap!

Sugarcoated

(7,707 posts)
105. You miss the point of the show.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:58 PM
Sep 2012

It shows the public what people do, behind the scenes, the God-awful things you and I probably wouldn't go near for any amount of money, and they do it with pride. Rowe has said he wanted to pay homage to his grandfather who was a pig farmer, give people a look at what these hard working laborers do, every day, with a smile. They deserve our respect. Being a Democrat that resonates with me.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
81. Next time your plumbing explodes
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:46 PM
Sep 2012

some 'banal boring' person will do their 'banal boring' job so you aren't ankle deep in shit.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
98. Right, but I won't expect TV cameras to document it
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:14 PM
Sep 2012

nor would I be interested in standing around to watch the plumber at work.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
99. Thank you for ASSUMING class bias on my part
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:21 PM
Sep 2012

I spent three years in the 1980s working mostly industrial temp jobs, and this assumption of class bias is really rich coming from people on a website where posters routinely make fun of "white trash."

The "reality" shows are simply a symptom of TV producers being 1) uncreative, 2) lazy, and above all, 3) cheap.

High-quality TV requires good writers, good actors, and good tech people. They all cost a lot more more than simply running a camera while some guy drives across Canada or hauls in a load of fish or cleans out a septic tank. If I thought these things were entertaining I'd go back to working as an industrial temp. (I never cleaned out a septic tank, but I did sort bedding and clothing caked with blood, piss, shit, mucous, and Lord knows what else while temping in a hospital laundry, so I do know something about dirty jobs.)

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
128. Because I prefer not to watch stupid, boring shows?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 04:04 PM
Sep 2012

OK. Then I'm proud to be an elitist.

I have plenty of respect for the PEOPLE who do the boring, low paid jobs. I've actually done those kinds of jobs. Have you, or are you an affluent person "slumming" by watching other people doing those jobs?

I have NO respect for the show biz producers who would rather follow people with a camera than hire good writers, good actors, good designers, etc.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
134. Here's the thing you're utterly missing while looking down your nose
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:58 AM
Sep 2012
Because I prefer not to watch stupid, boring shows?

They are stupid and boring to you.

You are not everyone. Nor are you so wonderful that we all ascribe to be you.

I have NO respect for the show biz producers who would rather follow people with a camera than hire good writers, good actors, good designers, etc.

There are no good writers, actors, etc on TV. In my opinion. But I also know it's just my opinion and do not pretend I should speak for everyone.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
61. And?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:10 PM
Sep 2012

The problem:
"Ohmigod he has a DIFFERENT POLITICAL POSITION THAN I DO! HE IS EVIL! I MUST HATE HIM! EVERYONE WITH HIS POSITION IS A NAZI!"

The solution:
"Eh, he has a different political position than I do. He's wrong, but whatever...it's a free country."

Which do you want to be?

Political polarization is a far greater danger to this country than any policies proposed by the opposition. To boycott an ACTOR simply because he likes someone we oppose is a bit silly.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
67. The folks that we watch on TV
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

may not always agree with us politically. I don't see the big deal. Don't like it, don't watch. That's your right. Just like it's this dudes right to make a stop for the candidate he chooses.

I don't watch these shows, but if I did, I wouldn't think it was a big deal that he made a stop for Romney.

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
69. Well he and his family use too many paper towels for things that should be cleaned otherwise
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:27 PM
Sep 2012

besides he "poops" baby chicks so I don't like him anyway. hmph...

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
70. We're done with him, in my family. He made a fortune for himself
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:28 PM
Sep 2012

off of the 47%, and now he stands up for "management". Fuck him.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
82. Are you paying attention to the facts in this thread?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:52 PM
Sep 2012

He didn't use this platform to yell, "Go Mitt!" He used it to remind one of the groups that most needs reminding (the other being certain posters here) about the value of those "boring banal people doing boring banal things".

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
93. If Mittens were President, then I could see it as a "raising awareness"
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:39 PM
Sep 2012

meeting. Appearing with him at a campaign event a month before the election is SUPPORT for the campaign. So, yeah...fuck him.

Sugarcoated

(7,707 posts)
95. Rowe was speaking liberal principles to a Republican crowd
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:00 PM
Sep 2012

so yes, that's raising awareness. He's well liked by conservatives. He's trying to be bipartisan. But he's trying to raise awareness for the blue collar workers, that's a good thing.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
114. But he adressed the exact same letter to the POTUS
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:28 AM
Sep 2012

care to tell me why? I know, very republican of him, isn't it?

Black and white thinking is not a good thing.

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
83. way to go Mike Rowe!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:53 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:09 PM - Edit history (1)

He accepts and invite from Romney and then speaks to the crowd about the working class - I definite (D) issue and never endorses the guy who ships jobs over seas! Hell, he never even says his name! I think that took balls! He most likely even took a speaking fee that took $ out of the Romney campaign.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
89. "Unintentionally disconnected ourselves from our workforce."
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:02 PM
Sep 2012

"The people who keep the lights on."

"Dirty Jobs is a tribute to (the working class)."

"Back in 2008, as you well know, the headlines started to catch up to the themes in Dirty Jobs."

"Think about what they do and the degree on which we rely on them."

"I don't know about you but I'm addicted to paved roads, cheap electricity."

"I think it (the bad employment numbers) from what I've seen it has something to do with the conversation we have on a daily basis."

"I'm here as a guest to the extent that I can contribute to the conversation." <-

You're so right jorno67. This is an epic, amazing, gutsy little speech.

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
90. Thank you for noticing!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sep 2012

It's sad how many people are jumping to the wrong conclusion based on what the event was. I haven't seen a gutsy thing like this since Colbert owned the Bush Administration at the Correspondence Dinner.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
100. This makes me like Mike Rowe more
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:18 PM
Sep 2012

Too bad Stinky and others in this thread were too lazy to actually read the article linked in the OP.

Stinky The Clown

(67,697 posts)
101. What makes you think that?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:10 PM
Sep 2012

The OP was posted with irony.

I can see the replies.

You're just as guilty of jumping to conclusions as anyone.

And don't call me lazy.

Nice try though.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
102. I didn't realize this some kind of experiment
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
Sep 2012

to see who fell for your misleading OP and who actually followed the link. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were just being lazy. I apologize.

Stinky The Clown

(67,697 posts)
103. Not an experiment at all.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:55 PM
Sep 2012

Open your mind a bit and reread the OP from a different perspective.

Or not. You seem hellbent on a mission to confront me. I'm not buying. Have a swell evening. Buhbye.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
111. You got some brainiacs to hate Mike Rowe.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:19 PM
Sep 2012

I take it you knew that would happen.

Feel free to explain your perspective on this, I'd really like to understand where you're coming from.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
117. Trolling is a art.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not calling you a 'troll'. The OP is a 'troll' in the real sense of the word. Here in DU 'troll' has been misappropriated and re-defined to describe a rw disruptor. Stinky really helped some people show their ass and knee-jerk bigoted ignorance as well as inherent nastiness.

ohiosmith

(24,262 posts)
119. This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:42 PM
Sep 2012

At Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:29 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Trolling is a art.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1435961

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

What, are opinions not allowed? So everyone that disagreed with this stunt is now a troll? What crap.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:46 AM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

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Edweird

(8,570 posts)
126. Meh. The alert is further proof that very few here on DU know what 'troll' means.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

This thread is a troll. A successful troll. Granted, it's not one of the "Kate bar the door" throwdowns initiated by some of the more ham fisted posters (Le Zuchinni, Tex and long gone mindcontrol) but it is better in that it is subtle. That's the mark of a true craftsman. I'm impressed. It also helps 'out' the low information bigots and mob mentality group thinkers. The DU definition of troll appears to be 'disruptor'. Stinky isn't a disruptor. He is a wordsmith using his talent to achieve a goal - part of which I believe is his own personal entertainment

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
118. I just think it's a waste of time to get on the stage
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:41 AM
Sep 2012

with a man who is against labor and unions who protect labor. I laugh every time I hear "right to work states." Talk about newspeak. It's the right to treat you like shite, the right to pay you slave wages, the right to give you an unsafe work environment and the right to deny a person work because of prejudice.

to the clueless, being on stage with mittens looks like an endorsement, no matter how hard he attempts to deny it. I suspect he is trying to get politicians to really look at hard working americans. However, if he is attempting to create empathy for laborers in the repug party, it's not going to happen-can't show empathy as a sociopath.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
123. The knee-jerk hate shows us something unflattering
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:34 PM
Sep 2012

Because the guy's been a champion of the working class, posters are distrustful of his politics and feel vindicated when he's "found out".

H/T to Stinky for designing an effective social experiment.

Bucky

(53,806 posts)
129. Are we sure Stinky did this as an experiment?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 04:29 PM
Sep 2012

I'd be relieved if he did. Stinky's feisty, but he doesn't frequently play McCarthyite or mob incitor...

I was among those saying it was no big deal--all sorts of celebs are Republican. But I wrongly assumed that because Rowe showed up with Romney at a rally, he was endorsing him. So I guess I kinda got caught in the experiment's net.

Stinky The Clown

(67,697 posts)
131. I have it on good authority that Stinky's "social experiment" was an unanticipated result of his OP.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:16 PM
Sep 2012

When I wrote that OP (fully thinking it was pretty much a throwaway) my first title was something along the lines of "Rmoney get's punked" or "Look who's punking Mutt."

Then I thought I'd play it a little straighter. The more fact-based OP title and a link to the story without comment. I thought everyone would get it.

Clearly not, since the "throwaway" post is still attracting comments.

Sometimes this place amazes me.



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