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Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

If he comes back soon, like a miracle, my spidey sense says it's all been a hoax.

Would love to have someone credible, Fauci or Redfield, verify the positive result. Remember, we are dealing with a reality show master here. He has successfully drown out all stories of taxes, unfavorable polls, Ivanka etc. Overcoming Covid will be spun as a positive for him. Would like to be proven wrong.

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Reply If he comes back soon, like a miracle, my spidey sense says it's all been a hoax. (Original post)
nature-lover Oct 2020 OP
Walleye Oct 2020 #1
nature-lover Oct 2020 #6
Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #8
bamagal62 Oct 2020 #2
CountAllVotes Oct 2020 #3
Wicked Blue Oct 2020 #4
Hoyt Oct 2020 #10
Qutzupalotl Oct 2020 #25
Hoyt Oct 2020 #26
beachbumbob Oct 2020 #5
Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #12
beachbumbob Oct 2020 #24
bullimiami Oct 2020 #7
regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #17
nature-lover Oct 2020 #22
dalton99a Oct 2020 #9
nature-lover Oct 2020 #13
Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #18
dalton99a Oct 2020 #19
Brother Buzz Oct 2020 #11
Statistical Oct 2020 #14
Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #16
Statistical Oct 2020 #20
Silent3 Oct 2020 #27
jimlup Oct 2020 #15
CrispyQ Oct 2020 #23
CrispyQ Oct 2020 #21

Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:21 PM

1. I don't see how he gets a sympathy vote if he acts like he's not sick

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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:24 PM

6. He will have faced the demon and prevailed. They'll buy it.

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Response to nature-lover (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:25 PM

8. His cult will..the rest of us. NOT

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

2. Exactly. If he is really on dexamethasone,

Then heís on oxygen and it means heís more seriously ill. If he comes back tomorrow all cured, we will know itís been a big scam.

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

3. dump's been cured by Remdesiver and hydroxychloquine, etc. etc. etc.

And all the other drugs he is conveniently *invested* in!

Fraud perhaps?

Don the Con cannot be trusted!

He lies! He lie's! He lies!




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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:23 PM

4. Maybe it was all to plug Remesdivir

Doesn't he have some financial interest in that and another medication he is taking?

And he refused to leave for the hospital until after the stock market close on Friday.

'Yay, it's a miracle drug! I'm cured! I'm gonna be rich again when sales go through the roof!'

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Response to Wicked Blue (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:28 PM

10. If that were the case, why say he took several other drug treatments in addition to Remdesivir ?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:13 PM

25. Trump had stakes in the makers of the cocktail he's taking.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3610111001?__twitter_impression=true

(I donít think Trumpís illness fake. Rather, I think Trump is really sick and requested a treatment using drugs heís invested in, with an eye towards making a profit if he recovers. Doctors would overrule if it were counter-indicated, but since itís experimental, and Trump is president, maybe he got what he wanted.)

On edit: had.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #25)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:17 PM

26. Sounds like he might have sold his holdings in 2017, that's how he made capital gains.

Plus article sates: "Trumpís subsequent disclosure forms, including his 2020 form signed July 31, did not list Regeneron or Gilead."

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:23 PM

5. not a fucking hoax, the personal humiliation and mockery will never go away and ZERO sympathy

 

outside of Russia and Putin

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM

12. I think it's the other way around

I think they're trying to create the optics that even COVID couldn't hold Trump down from working hard for the American people. He knew he had to beat COVID for the American people. To make it look like that's the amount of strength Trump has.

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Response to Windy City Charlie (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:59 PM

24. nothing to suggest this going to happen outside of paranoria

 

the Wizard of Oz has been revealed, the emperors new clothes are gone

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:24 PM

7. if it was all a hoax he can still catch it. even if he has it noone knows how immune he would become

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:37 PM

17. Plus, it would mean everyone else in the Rose Garden was also faking...

...which would immediately raise two points:

1) Why so many?
2) It would still make the optics terrible for 45, because it would remind everyone that the ďeverythingís safeĒ behavior he promoted can lead to an outbreak of the illness.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

22. I don't think the Rose Garden folks were faking, merely convenient for him to get it too.

Playing the devil's advocate here.

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:26 PM

9. It's a last-ditch effort to rally the cult


The episode we're watching is titled "The president is not a COVID villain, but a victim"

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM

13. Yes, and it is what makes him relatable to his base. They are all victims of something too.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:38 PM

18. It allows

It allows his base to look at him as a superhero who beat the deadly virus and that he kept working hard for them through it all.

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Response to Windy City Charlie (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:41 PM

19. +1. "The president VOLUNTEERED to take an experimental drug, and BEAT the nasty China virus!"


It was very brave and selfless of him

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

11. Gilead is at a five year low and is ripe for a quick bounce when the bell rings tomorrow

I'm just saying.

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM

14. Hoax doesn't even make sense. It is QAnon level nonsense.

By all possible metrics this "hoax" has done catastrophic damage to Trump's campaign. It has elevated COVID to the single issue likely for the rest of the campaign and all but doomed any possible chance of him winning re-election.

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Response to Statistical (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:36 PM

16. Unless

Unless they want to create the optic that he's going to come out of this stronger than ever, because of his will to do what the American people elected him to do. I think they're trying to make him look like a superhero

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Response to Windy City Charlie (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:42 PM

20. Even that doesn't work.

COVID is a loser for Trump. If Trump had any chance of winning they needed to keep COVID off the front pages as much as possible. The more the news is about non-COVID issues the better it is for Trump. This has sucked all the oxygen out of the room. Even news outlet, ever paper, every everything has been nonstop COVID. It also highlights Biden was correct and Trump was weak and stupid. His own supporters are saying he is responsible for getting sick. This has increased the percentage of Republicans who think COVID is a serious threat.

Now I think the debate killed Trump regardless but the debate combined with this just put his campaign in a coffin. He is done. Now it is just a question of how big of a win. Will Biden's coattails allows us to retake the Senate as well and maybe flip some state legislatures.

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Response to Windy City Charlie (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:18 PM

27. Trump supporters operate on the psychological level of shit-flinging chimpanzees

Sick = weak = bad

Never sick = healthy = good (screech loudly, pound chest)

Oh, sure, his supporters, hating to admit they were ever wrong about anything, would attempt to rally behind a comeback story, but serious damage will have been done.

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:35 PM

15. I don't think it is a hoax - I think it was a standard drump administration f-up

and we only sort of know the truth.

For a hoax this is very badly concieved and very badly played so no, it isn't a hoax.

It is a HUGE SCANDLE and may be criminal. What I want to know is WHEN DID THEY
KNOW TRUMP WAS POSITIVE and then what did they do about it?

These questions have not be adequately answered because the answers point towards criminal neglegence.

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Response to jimlup (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:46 PM

23. Will it take some high ranking repubs to die before the country seriously asks these questions?

It would be just if the Con's negligence took out the upper echelon of republican leadership.

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Response to nature-lover (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:42 PM

21. The only hoax is that he's doing well and improving.

IMO, that is. I think the best medical care in the world is partly why he appears to be doing ok. I said OK, not great. He has too many factors against him to recover fully, much less recover fully in time to debate or campaign. Again, IMO. He's old, overweight, has a heart condition and who knows what else, and he has a sour disposition.

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