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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is you wish state? The one that will make you most happy if we win.
Mine is Ohio. No Republican has won the WH without winning Ohio. I'd also love Arizona.
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Ohio | |
3 (14%) |
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PA | |
1 (5%) |
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Texas | |
10 (48%) |
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Iowa | |
0 (0%) |
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Michigan | |
0 (0%) |
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GA | |
0 (0%) |
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Florida | |
7 (33%) |
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North Carolina | |
0 (0%) |
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Arizona | |
0 (0%) |
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other | |
0 (0%) |
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W_HAMILTON
(7,862 posts)Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)But, if it did happen, I would stop saying we should give Taker State Texas back to Mexico for the good of the rest of the United States!
DFW
(54,349 posts)DFW
(54,349 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...because, if we win there, we only need two of the PA/MI/WI bloc (plus, I suspect that, if we win in Florida, where Republicans always seem to find a way to pull it out, it means we'll probably win all of the above as well, plus possibly several others).
Demovictory9
(32,449 posts)Hamlette
(15,411 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)There is far too much complacency here regarding losing Florida and Biden winning anyway. Nate Silver posted a couple of weeks ago that Trump becomes 55% favorite to be re-elected if he wins Florida.
Now, it might be somewhat lower than that right now, since Biden's overall position has improved somewhat. But still in the 50% range or slightly above. That's because if something has caused Florida to slant to Trump then the same dynamic is applying elsewhere also. These are hardly independent variables. Sam Wang seems to be particularly clueless about that.
If Biden doesn't win Florida he's also not going to carry North Carolina or Georgia or Iowa or Ohio or Texas. Only Arizona among the flippable states might come before Florida. Again, it's due to the basic aspect of only 36% conservatives in Florida compared to 39%+ in all of those other states. Deny at your own expense. Subjectivity is easy prey for fundamental math.
If Florida goes our way then the Republicans can piss on the fire and call the dog. We could relax because its over early. Then you can spend the rest of the night sipping your beverage of choice and just waiting to see what the final margin of victory will be.
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)Everyone wrote it off this year.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Though the last few elections have been close. I also look forward to McSally losing.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)And that puts us into a brand new world.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And that would send them a clear message how badly they've failed.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Amishman
(5,555 posts)Win here and win overall
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)And deliver a soul crushing defeat to the republicans.
backroadblast
(76 posts)once they do, it will never be red again.
.........but I went with Florida.
Celerity
(43,317 posts)If we won TX every election, odds are staggeringly high we will not have another Rethug POTUS for decades, if ever.
The only remotely close states we would need to win are MN, NH, and NV.
VA and CO are pretty much perma Blue now, barring a disasterclass Dem nominee.
AND, if we win MI, we could lose any 2 of MN, NH, and NV, and still win.
And there are TEN other states that I gave the Rethugs, all of them winnable, plus the 2 split districts (which I gave both to Trump to show how HUGE TX is)
Bottom line, without TX going forward, the Rethugs ARE FUCKED, POTUS-wise.
Finally, if we won only FL, TX, and VA (plus the DEEP Blue states), we could LOSE ALL the rest and win every time.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)That would be a big win.
I think if 1 of the southern states flip we might see a few of them flip. For instance, I could see SC, GA, and TX all going if 1 goes. If we get that combined with some key (and maybe some surprise) Senate pick ups, I think Biden could argue that he has a mandate to really push some things through.
Cirque du So-What
(25,928 posts)Itd be a lot cooler if it did