Was Trump saying he wouldn't accept the election results a turning point?

[Dr. Jack]

Obviously last week a few stories came out about Trump trying to go through state legislatures to change the electoral vote (even though that is extremely unlikely to ever work) and then a few hours later he said he wouldn't commit to a peaceful transfer of power when he loses. Not only threatening to stay in office, or at least try to, but also saying that there will be violence unless he wins.

After that we have seen Bidens polling numbers jumping by quite a bit over his already impressive lead. We had someone leak all of Trump's tax returns to the NYT, and even the Republicans in the House and Senate seemed very uneasy about those comments. There is a lot going on, sure. The Supreme Court is really driving Dems. They have raised over $300 million since RGB died and coronavirus/the economy are also simmering in the background. However, I do wonder if Trump's threats about not accepting the election will end up being a major reason why he completely fell apart in the final weeks. The biggest reason reason I wonder if Trump's comments about trying to cling to power even if and when he loses will end up being a major turning point are his taxes being leaked. The leak puts everything into prospective. All of his behavior and corruption as president, why he is fucked if he loses reelection and the shit he is trying to pull to stay in office, and just the damage his taxes are causing him.

I think people will look back and say that last week with the final nail in the coffin for Trump's reelection.

[soothsayer]

1. That, and RBG

[leftyladyfrommo]

6. I think so, too.

and now the tax returns. And Pascale getting hospitalized and under investigation for skimming off 40 million.

[C_U_L8R]

2. Nobody likes a cheat.

And as much as magats cheer him on, they realize somewhere in their small primitive brain things that, if they must cheat to win, they're wholly inadequate and illegitimate.

[Statistical]

3. The polls have been remarkably consistent this year.

Keep in mind even with a MOE of 2% one would expect the relative performance to "jump around" by 4 pts. As an example Biden +5 to Biden +9 could simply be statistical noise and in reality Biden was at +7 the entire time. Meaning if the election was held on the days both those polls came out Biden would end up winning by +7.

Trump has been such a non-stop dumpster fire train wreck for four years straight I don't think there is one single thing. The problem for Trump is that is he is underperforming so Biden really just need to maintain the status quo and run out the clock. It is Trump who needed (and still needs) to make some big move and he has lurched from one failure to another ensuring he can't.

[Midnight Writer]

4. I don't think there was a turning point so much as a tipping point.

I think people are exhausted from having to deal with more new bullshit every day.

[lettucebe]

5. No, he also said this in 2016. He has nothing new, and nothing seems to budge is followers

though I'm happy to hear of a trickle of his supporters seeing the light. It doesn't take many. He never tried to win a single new voter and has lost many, so his chances to prevail are astonishingly low. So low as to say if he appears to win, somebody cheated.