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Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:49 AM

Pushing through the SCOTUS nomination pre-election may be a fatal mistake for Trump

Think about it, there are a lot of pro-life happy clappy types who are not wedded completely to the cult, but having a conservative court is their most important priority. You know the ones in the pro life crowd that can excuse pretty much everything as long as a candidate promises to steal reproductive justice from right under women’s noses? With cray cray women hating woman in for a cert for the seat vacated by the notorious RBG, they have got what they want. A 6-3 court which will kick Roe V Wade into touch the first chance they get. Given this fact, what motivation do they have to turn out for Trump? I am sure that a lot of these women hates the way he talks about and treats women. I am sure a lot of men have struggled with the inability to financially support their families in this time of economic crisis – you know these types where the man is the head of the household… I am equally as sure that some have lost loved ones to the pandemic. I am sure that some have been evicted from their homes. So, that being the case, now he has given them what they want, where is the motivation to vote for a man who has fucked up literally everything he has touched in this most difficult of years? I mean Trump does not really care if there is a conservative court, other than his plans to steal the election. That is why he is pushing this through, even though it won’t work. But it will decrease the motivation of some of those who voted for him in spite of him, not because of him and McConnell knows this, right? Taken to its logical conclusion, McConnell is happy to sacrifice a 2nd term for Trump to get a conservative court as he sees his red wall start to crumble.

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Reply Pushing through the SCOTUS nomination pre-election may be a fatal mistake for Trump (Original post)
Soph0571 Sep 28 OP
Rule of Claw Sep 28 #1
Soph0571 Sep 28 #3
enough Sep 28 #8
Rule of Claw Sep 28 #12
enough Sep 28 #23
Upthevibe Sep 28 #13
Backseat Driver Sep 28 #18
Rule of Claw Sep 28 #21
Statistical Sep 28 #22
Rule of Claw Sep 28 #24
dware Sep 28 #19
Upthevibe Sep 28 #26
Walleye Sep 28 #2
Soph0571 Sep 28 #5
Statistical Sep 28 #14
The Magistrate Sep 28 #4
Soph0571 Sep 28 #6
Walleye Sep 28 #10
moose65 Sep 28 #16
Walleye Sep 28 #20
CaliforniaPeggy Sep 28 #7
rso Sep 28 #9
Statistical Sep 28 #11
Patterson Sep 28 #15
Backseat Driver Sep 28 #17
BlueMTexpat Sep 28 #25
Cosmo Blues Sep 29 #27

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:51 AM

1. You still think her nomination will even get out of committee?

 

With the rumblings out of D.C. I am hearing, I don't think anyone in this time frame would be approved.

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:53 AM

3. Come hell or high water

They will push this through

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:59 AM

8. What are these rumblings? NT

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:01 PM

23. Let's hope some of the details see the light soon. NT

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:07 AM

13. Rule of Claw....

Could you be specific regarding "rumblings out of D.C." you've heard? Do you have a link of any credible articles discussing this nomination in the context of yesterday's events?

I'm not meaning to be rude. It's just that recently I've been struggling with the possibility of ending a long-term friendship with a friend who's become a QAnon quack. When I ask her questions about this ABSURD conspiracy theory, she can never cite a source other than it's on the internet, she saw a youtube video, she read somewhere, and on and on.

I'd love it if this does benefit the SCOTUS situation. Having said that, would you cite articles, discussions you've seen, etc. Thank you.

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:28 AM

18. In regard to #2P, shunning is a powerful motivator. Just sayin'

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Response to Backseat Driver (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 AM

21. Just Published an OP

 

Addressing a source of rumblings.

One source.

There are many sources.

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:44 AM

22. He never does.

He also knows Trump WILL resign. Not might resign but already a done deal absolutely will happen. He also knows the Amy won't be confirmed.

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Response to Statistical (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:12 PM

24. I never said what I know for a fact.

 

I gave opinions.

Would you like to know what I know for a fact?

Here is an appetizer.

Deutsche Bank National Trust held the loan for Marco Rubio's home in 2010.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bank-forecloses-on-fla-senate-candidates-home/

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:31 AM

19. The R's control the Senate, all they need are 50 votes with Pence

being the tie breaker,

The R's are going to confirm her, despite all the hulabaloo in the country.

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Response to Rule of Claw (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:52 PM

26. Rule of Claw...Thanks!

I'll check out these tweets....

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:52 AM

2. I agree. They have nothing to run on really but filling the Supreme Court seat.

Now that there’s no vacancy what are they campaigning on? certainly not their record

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:54 AM

5. Yep

The evangelicals have got what they want and they know he is not really one of them, they ignored the worst of him cause SCOTUS, ironically the one promise that he made and he will keep is the one that could well screw him over.

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

14. Thomas will need to retire of possibly pass away in the next eight years.

If Thomas is replaced with a liberal that brings the court back 5-4 and both Gorsuch and Roberts have at times voted with the liberal wing meaning some cases (not all cases but some cases) would then go 4-5 the other way.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:54 AM

4. I Tend To Agree, Ma'am

Overturning Roe v. Wade could well put the Republicans in the unfortunate position of the dog who actually caught the bus. Not only will doing this be widely unpopular, the next steps on the christo-fascist agenda agenda, such as restriction of birth control and divorce, are not only far more unpopular, but necessarily would come front and center. Not even trying to stir up panic over transexuals would suffice for cover.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:55 AM

6. They will be out of power for a generation

Oh my!

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:03 AM

10. Yes the dog caught the bus. Republicans do everything for victory in elections

Then they’re not the least bit interested in governing

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Response to Walleye (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:16 AM

16. That is them, in a nutshell

They LOVE to campaign and they're pretty good at it, but they absolutely SUCK at actually running the government, and it's by design. The campaigns are always AGAINST something, or trying to "take back" something. Conservative politics is the politics of paranoia. Then, when they get elected, they try to "punish" people in certain groups. They don't really give a shit about running the government in a competent way.

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Response to moose65 (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 AM

20. They seem so much happier when they're in the persecuted minority

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:59 AM

7. I certainly hope it's a fatal mistake, my dear Soph!

Well put!



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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:03 AM

9. SCOTUS

This is why democratic leaders are wisely avoiding comment on any talk of eliminating the filibuster and adding justices to SCOTUS, as any such comment would encourage evangelicals to still enthusiastically vote for Donnie and his sycophants.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:05 AM

11. Evengelicals always want more.

Roberts could become more moderate. Thomas could die in the next eight years. You know what is better than 6-3 court? A 7-2 court or even better a 7-2 court plus replacing Thomas with a 35 year old theocrat who will keep the court dark red for the next 40-50 years.

RvW simply leaves it to the states. The next step would be to federally ban abortion to prevent those evil liberal states from allowing abortion.

It isn't just abortion. Striking down minimum wage laws and collective bargaining (many evangelicals believes in the completely non-biblical prosperity gospel). Strike marriage equality. Strike down protections for minorities and gays. Remove separation of church and state. Strike down protections on other religions. Create a defacto "super religion" unequal under the law.

They will never stop. They will never one day say "yup this is good enough".

That being said I think Dumpy is losing regardless. I believe he was going to lose even before RBG passing and before his business tax failings.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

15. She will easily go through. That's how they do things now.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:26 AM

17. Pass the popcorn, please...

Of course, a lot of Americans recognize this as a momentous event that would change how we live. The healthiest, mentally, will realize that the species will likely continue in spite of it, in an unaccustomed to fashion. Brains in humans being what they are, some are deeply concerned about events they'd not like to be around for - the demise of democracy, a pandemic that claims all humanity, a slow tortuous climate change event...People of hypocritical faith, welcome events that send themselves into the next journey, as long as they're a part of it.

The truth, as we know it now, says we're heading for a mass extinction event that perhaps we can perhaps slow...climate, nuclear war, death of the sun...

As a species or Americans, we've adjusted to many "scary" events in which millions of lives were lost; it's the wise human that would prefer to work at slowing the speed at which those events might occur. Our time is limited; everyone dies - even "ol Mitch." He is so without vision...dangerous, yes, but he misunderstands events and policies that we try to quell. Therefore, the long-term democratic survival instinct rails against anyone's short-sighted "minute in time" of everlasting power and villainy that attempts to hasten that apocalyptic event of mass extinction for the living that experience it.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:26 PM

25. May it also be a fatal mistake

for Moscow Mitch, all Senate GOPers, AND for the nominee herself!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:22 PM

27. K street?

If correct they own a lot more than two Republicans in the Senate. But they stand to gain so much more from this nominee, it sounds unlikely

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