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Sat Sep 26, 2020, 08:53 AM

This electoral college crap has to go. I'm so tired of having

to pander to low intelligence Fox news listening sheep people deciding the direction of the country. With the EC and gerrymandering we lose the advantage of the majority every time. More voted for Hillary by millions. There's more Democratic voters than republican constantly in state elections yet we lose. There is no way trump wouldn't be run out on a rail save for the Electoral college. People need their votes to count and now they really don't.

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Reply This electoral college crap has to go. I'm so tired of having (Original post)
kacekwl Sep 26 OP
I_UndergroundPanther Sep 26 #1
TreasonousBastard Sep 26 #2
dware Sep 26 #3
Yeehah Sep 26 #5
dware Sep 26 #6
Yeehah Sep 26 #4
keithbvadu2 Sep 26 #7

Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:03 AM

1. EC is usually

Made up of rather wealthy
People more likely to favor republicans,because they have money.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:10 AM

2. Yes, sort of. The Framers, even though giving the vote to only free, white men, and often only...

property owners, still worried that they wouldn't be bright enough to properly elect senators, either.

Senators are now directly elected, black people can vote, women can vote, poor people can vote, but we still can''t directly vote for President. But abolishing the EC requires a constitutional amendment, and both sides don't trust the consequences enough to try.

It would probably be a lot easier to work at the state level and try to get all states to get electors to be appointed proportionally with the votes. It's the "winner take all" that causes most of the problems.







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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:16 AM

3. All you need to do is convince the Congress to convene a Constitutional Convention,

get 2/3rds of the Congress to pass an amendment, then get 3/4ths of the states to ratify it.

Another thing to ponder, if a Constitutional Convention is convened, that opens up everything to potential change, which the R's would love to do.

Be careful what you wish for.

Just for the record, I agree with everything you said in your post.

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Response to dware (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:25 AM

5. Sort of like what happened with the other 27 amendments

It might not be politically possible at this time, but it should be done as soon as possible.

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Response to Yeehah (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:28 AM

6. I agree,

it's more than likely not possible at this juncture in time, but it will come as the younger generation takes the reins of government.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:23 AM

4. While we're at it....

let's get rid of the irrational apportionment of two senators for pieces of real estate. There is no good reason Rhode Island should have equal power in the Senate with California.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:36 AM

7. EC good/bad?

In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted that the electoral college system was a 'disaster for a democracy.'

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-described-the-electoral-college-as-a-disaster/

After losing the popular vote, President-elect Donald Trump has decided that the Electoral College is a pretty smart way to elect a president after all.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/17/donald-trump-electoral-college-hillary-clinton-popular-vote/

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