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Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:42 AM

Trump wants to lose the election I believe.

He and his family has been taking boat loads of money from the campaign the government and stashing it away for the day he loses. He knows he will be able to slither away with no prosecution or consequence for his crimes. His loyal subjects may take the fall for him and that's fine with him. He's tired of trying to actually work or fool everyone he does work. He's been the president now and can brag about it and continue to grift on that alone. There's nothing left in it for him.

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Reply Trump wants to lose the election I believe. (Original post)
kacekwl Sep 2020 OP
USALiberal Sep 2020 #1
Phoenix61 Sep 2020 #4
In It to Win It Sep 2020 #20
kacekwl Sep 2020 #18
sarisataka Sep 2020 #2
Polybius Sep 2020 #5
tman Sep 2020 #3
soothsayer Sep 2020 #6
jimfields33 Sep 2020 #27
wryter2000 Sep 2020 #7
0rganism Sep 2020 #17
sdfernando Sep 2020 #26
Aristus Sep 2020 #8
LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #14
renate Sep 2020 #19
Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #23
GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #9
Mike 03 Sep 2020 #10
still_one Sep 2020 #11
totodeinhere Sep 2020 #22
still_one Sep 2020 #31
LizBeth Sep 2020 #12
kacekwl Sep 2020 #24
Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #13
Eyeball_Kid Sep 2020 #28
Sierra89 Sep 2020 #15
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #16
JI7 Sep 2020 #21
moondust Sep 2020 #25
Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #29
LisaL Sep 2020 #30

Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:44 AM

1. Why campaign? Why debate? nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:47 AM

4. He loves being in the limelight. nt

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

20. Yes... and doesn't really want the work

I feel like he ran for the praise and thought it would be 24-hr praise, not realize that the presidency is a thankless job.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 PM

18. There are a lot of important people

who need him to win so have to put on a show.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:44 AM

2. I hope his efforts to lose are more successful

than his effort to lose in 2016. He really failed at that and got stuck with a job he didn't want.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:47 AM

5. He fails so bad, he can't even succeed at losing!

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:45 AM

3. Nah

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:48 AM

6. Dunno, he's gonna be in a heap of legal trouble

Theoretically

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:27 PM

27. If not for that, I'd agree he'd want to lose

But the states of limitations are up during his second term.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:48 AM

7. I don't know how he slithers away without prosecution

New York state has plenty on him, and it's pretty clear they'll use it once he's out of office.

However, I would believe that he thinks he's going to lose and he and his family are taking every last penny while they can.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:07 PM

17. does Russia have an extradition treaty with us?

maybe not so much how as where imho

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:19 PM

26. Putin won't take him

once he is out of office trangeranus is useless to Putin. Or Putin may take him and then tangeranus falls out of a window "accidentally".

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:49 AM

8. I don't agree. The stakes are higher than in 2016, when he just wanted to juice up his brand.

Winning this year means keeping a job he hates, is terrible at, and keeps a spotlight on him at all times that's not always fulsomely complimentary.

But losing this year means going to jail forever, or into exile in Russia. Not sure which one I'd pick. Have to flip a coin on that one...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:59 AM

14. Of it's jail for life or Russia, I'd pick Russia, unequivocally.

Jail sucks; prison's worse.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

19. Putin won't want him once he's useless

He'd still be good for getting his base's knickers in a twist, but once he has no power and Putin has moved on to his next Manchurian candidate, he won't be particularly welcome in Russia. In fact I think Putin will get a lot of jollies out of turning him away.

But he could still go to Saudi Arabia and live well. Maybe that's his plan.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:12 PM

23. Russia won't want him.

Why would they?

His assets are likely to be frozen the minute he's not president and criminal cases drop.

The denouement of Trump by Putin will be nasty, brutish and short. And inevitable.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:49 AM

9. Nope. He is doing this because he knows he's going to lose.

And, he knows that he's headed to prison when he does. They are most certainly looting the GOP's campaign coffers, that's not in question. He and his cronies are stealing away as much as they can, and hiding it for the time when they make a break for it. It's all being stashed offshore, so that they can access it once they reach whatever non-extradition country to which they wind up escaping.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:50 AM

10. At times it seems like it, but he and other members of his family are allegedly

facing criminal prosecution, or at the very least are the subjects of investigations.

It's true, he's not "running for president" in any sense of the word, but he's doing everything possible to remain in power.

Based on the books Fire and Fury and Disloyal (Michael Cohen's book) I'm convinced his "best case scenario" and the thing he planned for was to lose in 2016 and parlay that loss into a bunch of Trump Organization projects.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:51 AM

11. Nope, because he knows he will face criminal charges once he leaves

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Response to still_one (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:12 PM

22. Just like GWB faced criminal charges for his war crimes. And just like Reagan faced criminal

charges for Iran Contra.

Oh but wait, that didn't happen did it. And it won't happen this time either.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:34 PM

31. There are major differences

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:51 AM

12. Since getting thru impeachment, he breaks all laws visibly and enjoys the ultimate

power of no restrictions. He doesn't want to lose it.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:15 PM

24. He'll get a Pence pardon and the state

charges will be tied up in court for years untill he's dead.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 AM

13. This POS wants John Roberts to

anoint him in January. That has been the Game Plan since January of 2017. Putin and His Oligarchs have greased the skids on this. Unless Barr is Impeached ASAP,things are going to get friggin ugly.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:28 PM

28. Roberts knows that Trump is destroying the nation.

Roberts is interested in keeping the USSC intact.

So he’ll play it straight. He will honor the popular vote, IMO.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:02 PM

15. I wondered about this myself

Seeing the skimming/smash and grab going on with all that cash. He seems to be dragging ass most of th time, and may be tired of it all. He recently stated, "If I lose to him, I don't know what I'm going to do. I will never speak to you again," Trump told the attendees at the rally. "You'll never see me again." Donald's used to his "family business" where he simply does whatever he wants and answers to no one. Except for the attention he gets at rallies, he seems bored. Ivanka & Jared have made a ton of money, she has her Chinese patents. The increasing corruption and power grab is turning the electorate against Donald, except for this base/cult. If he really wanted a second term, why not do more for the people?

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:06 PM

16. No. That would require a degree of strategizing I doubt he's capable of.

He's probably not even planning some kind of realistic exit from this country if he does lose.

Never forget that he is a narcissist, through and through. Nothing and no one is real except him. Which is why he lies constantly, can't be bothered to learn anything, and says anything at all that comes into his head. While he is saying it, it's true for him. And when he says something completely the opposite in the next sentence, that statement is then true for him.

He loves the perks that come with his current "job". He finds it highly annoying that he does have to do certain job related things, like put up with briefings, but since he doesn't read what they hand him and doesn't listen to what they say, it hardly matters.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:11 PM

21. No. he wants to stay in office to avoid legal troubles

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:16 PM

25. Except he lives for the attention.

Troops saluting him. Secret Service guarding him. Lots of fools clamoring to get near him or even talk to him. All that attention makes a low-grade scoundrel feel like a king. He'll never find that kind of aggrandizement anywhere else. All that attention and glorification is what he had his eye on for years.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:31 PM

29. JMHO he will never see the inside of a jail cell. He has the perfect defense

His attorneys will say he is physically or mentally, or both unable to stand trial.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:33 PM

30. Haven't you been paying attention?

He'll do anything to win. He certainly doesn't want to lose.

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