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Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:40 AM

Some wise words from Jason Alexander

I just got home from my weekly errand run and saw just one unmasked individual, in a parking lot. She was elderly and obviously physically compromised so maybe she had a legitimate medical reason to not wear one. Everyone else was totally compliant with both masks and social distancing. This has been my experience, in my part of the county, for the vast majority of this pandemic, where we have some of the lowest numbers IN the county.

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Reply Some wise words from Jason Alexander (Original post)
Siwsan Sep 22 OP
Cirque du So-What Sep 22 #1
calimary Sep 22 #27
Cirque du So-What Sep 22 #30
young_at_heart Sep 22 #2
CaptYossarian Sep 22 #8
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 22 #20
CaptYossarian Sep 22 #28
Texin Sep 23 #38
SunnyATT Sep 22 #22
CaptYossarian Sep 22 #29
Cosmocat Sep 22 #23
qazplm135 Sep 22 #3
CaptYossarian Sep 22 #10
speaknow Sep 22 #4
ms liberty Sep 22 #5
JohnnyRingo Sep 22 #6
RhodeIslandOne Sep 22 #7
CTyankee Sep 22 #15
calimary Sep 22 #18
NYC Liberal Sep 22 #35
Bev54 Sep 22 #9
Initech Sep 22 #11
Beringia Sep 22 #12
KS Toronado Sep 22 #13
Upthevibe Sep 22 #14
LizBeth Sep 22 #16
forgotmylogin Sep 22 #19
BusyBeingBest Sep 22 #33
LizBeth Sep 22 #34
world wide wally Sep 22 #17
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 22 #21
calimary Sep 22 #24
Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 22 #25
Sanity Claws Sep 22 #26
oldsoftie Sep 22 #31
Lucinda Sep 22 #32
Cha Sep 22 #36
pazzyanne Sep 23 #37

Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:46 AM

1. Some people have a fucked-up view of rights

The phrase (commonly attributed to Abraham Lincoln), ‘ My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins‘, will probably draw anything from a bovine gaze to getting shot.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:17 PM

27. And those same people would probably hate Abraham Lincoln.

Probably would try to find some way to impeach him.

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Response to calimary (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:28 PM

30. By the same token

those selfsame cretins would claim Lincoln as a Republican and call the Democratic Party the party of slavery and the KKK.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:48 AM

2. Our gigantic obstacle.....they did not have this

They did not have the worst leader/president in history!

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Response to young_at_heart (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:28 AM

8. The BBC also wasn't Fox or Hate-speech radio either.

Yet "Mary's uncle" compares himself to Lincoln and Churchill. His fine brain only compares with Mary Todd.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:34 AM

20. You shouldn't insult Mary Todd that way.

Seriously. I know she had her issues, but she wasn't deliberately cruel to people.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:49 PM

28. I should have phrased that better.

There was no malice toward the First Lady. I began with sarcastically using "fine brain" of the Great Pumpkin, who is unaware of his emotional, cognitive, and psychological shortcomings. He's a self-proclaimed stable genius who is neither. Remember the Moral Majority? Same backward logic.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:20 AM

38. Mary Todd Lincoln was an educated woman. She suffered from clinical depression

in an era well before diagnosis and treatment of mental disorders were treated as part of the human condition for those affected. BTW, her husband also suffered from depression (and between the two of them, they had a heaping helping of things to make even the strongest human being buckle).

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:49 AM

22. If you're referring to Mary Todd Lincoln,

she was well educated studied literature and spoke French fluently. His "fine brain" can only be compared to other "useful idiots" and "despot" wannabe's.

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Response to SunnyATT (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:06 PM

29. Please check out my reply #28.

My intent was about her mental illness (respectfully). I know she was educated and he's uneducable (because he already knows everything). No malice at all toward anyone with Ms. Lincoln's issues.

Trump's purpose in life is to hurt as many people and other species as possible. It's the only thing that makes him happy. It isn't enough though, as he's resorted to killing and even celebrated the rubber bullet that struck Ali Velshi. Your despot reference is spot on.

My words are intended to hurt him and his cult followers. I seriously hope he reads my posts because figuratively, it's like the Three Stooges emptying a table full of cream pies on a roomful of snobs.

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Response to young_at_heart (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:50 AM

23. It goes well beyond him

They did not have a relentless profiteering network of hate filled propogandists like Faux, countless Rush Limbaugh's, all the well funded "think tanks" etc. that created 45 in the first place, and have 40% of the country tweaked out like meth addicted canabilistic zombies.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:48 AM

3. Some people

Value rights over responsibilities.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:31 AM

10. They don't want us to tell them what to do with their bodies.

Irony sits back with its arms folded.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:19 AM

4. Alexander is

right, but that might be to hard
for 41% that wants FRB. It only shows
how many screw ball are on
the loose in this country!

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

5. He is using one of the analogies I have used

We were apparently a lot braver in WW2

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:23 AM

6. I drive at night without headlights.

I have perfect night vision and if others can't see me, it's because they're flawed. Not my fault. Stay home if you're afraid.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:24 AM

7. Glad I live in a blue state

 

We were ahead of the curve.

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:10 AM

15. me too. Our governor is great.

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:27 AM

18. Yeah. Me too.

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 02:36 PM

35. Here in NY, I recently visited an area upstate with Trump signs all over...

and everyone was still wearing a mask. I think the examples our leaders set make a difference. If you've got a right-wing, anti-science governor telling people they don't have to wear masks, they're not gonna wear them.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:29 AM

9. I remember my Mom telling me about

having to blackout as well on the coast of BC Canada, and my guess would be east coast as well, because of German submarines, they did not want to give them a beacon.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:32 AM

11. If Fox News had been around during the Blitzkrieg...

They would have people convinced that the air raid bombings were a democratic hoax, and we'd currently be under Nazi rule.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:44 AM

12. My contrarian side says, Londoners in WW2 were probably taught to all think alike


the 60s was a ways away.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:55 AM

13. Only reason repugs are anti-mask is because their "stable?" genius tells them so.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:08 AM

14. Siwsan......Excellent.....

Thank you for this post....

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:19 AM

16. Having mask off in parking lot. I see lots putting on as they enter and take off as they leave.

I do not have an issue with someone walking to car taking off mask, or getting out of car putting mask on. we do that here all the time. I do. And I consistently wear mask. Everyone has it on in the store.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:33 AM

19. Yeah, once outside it's not so critical, just maintain distance.

It's just indoors or in any close-crowds we need to be completely masked.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 02:28 PM

33. I never wear a mask outside, unless I would happen to be somewhere very crowded.

The risk would be so low as to be almost nothing if you aren't super-close to others. It's important to heed rules and laws, but just as important to retain common sense, so anti-maskers have less of an argument about their "freedoms" being taken away.

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Response to BusyBeingBest (Reply #33)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 02:34 PM

34. I walk dog twice a day and almost none of us old cautious staying home old people do. I have one

in my pocket if someone wants to talk and are more comfortable for me to wear a mask but even at that we stand far away from each other.

Except the couple weeks with ash raining down on us. Then I wore mask, tight and filter,

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:20 AM

17. Just like Trump thinks having gold colored furniture makes him look wealthy, he is

only concerned with how anything makes him look. He sees the masks as a symbol of a problem and he doesn't want anyone to think he is responsible for any problems in the world.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:36 AM

21. Londoners, and pretty much everyon else in Europe during WWII

sacrificed a fuck of a lot. And that's without even considering the many soldiers who were wounded or died, or the millions deliberately murdered in the concentration camps.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:02 PM

24. Oh but my rights! MY rights!

Oh, YOU have rights, too?

Meh - not important to ME. Only MY rights count here. Only MY rights count, EVER.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:04 PM

25. There were volunteer Air Raid Precautions wardens enforcing the blackout and other safety measures.

To police the new blackout, in March 1937 the Home Office appealed for 300,000 "citizen volunteers" to be trained as air raid precautions (ARP) wardens, rather unfairly immortalised in the television series Dad's Army officiously telling householders to "put out that light".
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/nov/01/blackout-britain-wartime

From what I can gather, even though the blackout itself caused many injuries,
Some of the early work that ARP wardens had to contend with was enforcing the blackout that was introduced on 1 September 1939 and lasted until April 1945 (5). Shop windows were darkened from 6:00 pm as were houses – requiring heavy curtains or blankets to ensure that no light escaped. Streets in almost darkness were dangerous with a large increase in injuries – 20% of the population reported as having suffered blackout related injuries in the first 4 months that they were in operation.

Road deaths increased around 40% when compared with pre-war fatalities. Regular readers will recall that a few years earlier Lewisham streets were noted as being some of the most dangerous in London.
https://runner500.wordpress.com/tag/arp-wardens/
most Brits willingly complied.

However, Jason Alexander's tweet oversimplifies the matter:
Blackout measures introduced in 1939, where external lighting had to be limited during hours of darkness and extinguished during air raids, were certainly the subject of complaints. Historian Robert Mackay writes that at the time, the public felt this measure was the most inconvenient aspect of the war, due to the lack of bombs in late 1939 and early 1940. He adds that those enforcing blackout, such as volunteer ARP wardens, were unpopular. Blackout measures also led to a rise in traffic and road-related deaths early on in the war, which at one point were higher than Royal Air Force and Navy deaths according to a report in the New York Times. Despite frustrations, blackout was a successful measure, with most UK cities described from the air as “comprehensively darkened”.
https://fullfact.org/online/blitz-spirit-tweet/

Also:
Other safety measures weren’t perfectly adhered to. The Centre for War, State, and Society at the University of Exeter notes that a significant cause of death early on in the Blitz was due to a failure to find shelter, with bodies pulled from the rubble indicating that victims had been sleeping in upstairs rooms.

Unlike with those refusing to mask up in public, in this case, those who refused to go to a public or other recommended shelter, were mostly hurting themselves. Though, as with COVIDiots, the injured or dead put added stress on services such as healthcare workers, and in the case of those refusing to take shelter, rescue workers.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:05 PM

26. Their leaders played a big role.

As a young woman, Princess Elizabeth (now Queen) was a mechanic. She wore a military uniform.
The King and Queen respected rationing, just as their subjects.
If I recall history, the Queen inspected the bombing sites.
All of their leaders connected with the people in a way to encourage them in those tough times.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:36 PM

31. My mom enforced blackouts in PA during the war when she was 12.

"Close your curtains! turn out your lights!"
She did have a couple stories about a couple of homes that always HAD to be told.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 02:13 PM

32. KNR

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 05:58 PM

36. KR!

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:04 AM

37. Those who are screaming about their constitutional rights forget...

... that there are constitutional responsibilities that go along with those rights. They are babies in constitutional law and willfully do not want to learn more. They are only concerned about me, me, me. There area couple of million Americans that need to grow up.

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