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Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:24 AM

How Charismatic Catholic Groups Like Amy Coney Barrett's People of Praise Inspired 'The Handmaid's

Tale"

https://www.newsweek.com/amy-coney-barrett-people-praise-group-inspired-handmaids-tale-1533293

Here is just another of the thousands of reasons why tRump's preferred candidate must NOT be confirmed, if appointed.

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The charismatic Christian parachurch organization, which was founded in South Bend, Indiana in 1971, teaches that men have authority over their wives. Members swear a lifelong oath of loyalty to one another and are expected to donate at least 5 per cent of their earnings to the group.

How Charismatic Catholic Groups inspired 'The Handmaid's Tale'

Members of People of Praise are assigned to personal advisers of the same sex—called a "head" for men and "handmaid" for women, until the rise in popularity of Atwood's novel and the television series based on it forced a change in the latter.

Atwood herself has previously referred to the practices of a charismatic Catholic group motivating her to write The Handmaid's Tale, set in the fictional Gilead, where women's bodies are governed and treated as the property of the state under a theocratic regime.
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Interesting article!

What an absolutely total insult to the memory of RBG!

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Reply How Charismatic Catholic Groups Like Amy Coney Barrett's People of Praise Inspired 'The Handmaid's (Original post)
BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 OP
3Hotdogs Sep 2020 #1
jimfields33 Sep 2020 #2
BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #3
jimfields33 Sep 2020 #4
BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #5
lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #17
Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #6
FBaggins Sep 2020 #9
Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #10
FBaggins Sep 2020 #11
Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #12
lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #18
Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #7
BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #8
lindysalsagal Sep 2020 #13
BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #14
lindysalsagal Sep 2020 #15
BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #16

Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:30 AM

1. Imagine this dilwad on the court.

I can't even imagine the dialog of her questioning an attorney from the bench.

Her opinions would certainly be a hoot.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 AM

2. She just went through hearing a few years ago

A hoot for sure. She was appointed by 55-43 approval. I know many think she will be chosen but I think it will be the judge Lagos from Florida 11th circuit. She was appointed by 80-15 senators two years ago. Way easier.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:36 AM

3. Both are insults

to the achievements and memory of RBG.

Just as Clarence Thomas was a colossal insult to the achievements and memory of the Great Thurgood Marshall!


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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:42 AM

4. Yep.

I still wonder the strategy of the Democratic senators who voted for the judge the first time especially the judge from Florida who got 80 votes. I hope they have a plan to say “no” this time.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:52 AM

5. It's one thing to vote to appoint

someone to a lower court judgeship, although I do not understand what was on the minds of those Dems who voted for this then.

But when we are talking about the US Supreme Court, standards should be of the highest.

Of course, those standards have been degraded so much under tRump and the quality of his nominees, that the current Supreme Court looks more like a kangaroo court.

As an attorney myself (now ret'd), I have no respect at all for Thomas, Alito, or Kavanaugh, a jot of respect for Gorsuch, and a tiny bit more for Roberts. Kagan and Sotomeyer are certainly no RBGs. But I do respect their understanding and interpretations of the law for the most part.

If there were truly a Higher Power somewhere, it would strike down tRump, Pence, McConnell & Thomas on the spot. There would be nothing left but scorched earth and a smell of sulphur.

One can always dream.



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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:40 PM

17. Dems should boycott the entire sham, except for one standing watch to oppose regular order.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:18 AM

6. The "Charismatic Catholic" is no Catholic

They practice prophecy among other insane bullshit. Catholics are forbidden to attempt divination. It is a mortal sin and blaspheme against God. It is written in the Catechism.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:30 PM

9. The church distinguishes between prophesy and divination

Apparently you don't.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:59 PM

10. Let me guess

You’re a Charismatic?

The Church is pretty strict on prophecy. It’s vetted pretty hard. Can’t quite see how a lay groups can have it as part of their charter.

Oh yeah, they cannot

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:08 PM

11. Nope. Not even close

I'm generally uncomfortable around them.

I just don't like falsehoods if they can be corrected.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:15 PM

12. Prophecy is revealed, it is not "practiced"

The Church is very strict on declaring something a prophecy. How does one “practice” it? You don’t. The mystics of the Church like Gemma and Pio were scrutinized heavily.

I knew a man officially recognized as having the gift of discernment who was routinely called out for diabolical investigation. He attended exorcisms as well for a well known exorcist in Michigan.

The Church recognizes these people, but one does not “join” nor does one “practice” these things

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:42 PM

18. It's all made-up silliness; no point arguing the finer points of semantics.

Might as well argue about how many pinheads can dance with angels, or however that used to go...

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:32 AM

7. Atwood has mentioned Phyllis Schlafly as a model for Serena Joy.

The religious right was rising when she wrote as well. She had a lot of crazy to draw on at that time (early to mid 80's).

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Response to Greybnk48 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:33 PM

8. This is also true.

It is truly sad how such fanatics have been able to hold such power in what we have always thought was an enlightened society.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:45 PM

13. what a oxymoron: "charismatic catholic"

how can they be fundies? Is it the catholic rapture? Armagedden?

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:16 AM

14. Exactly!

I was a "cradle" Catholic myself. I don't remember any "rapture" talk at all. But it is true that I have forgotten a lot.

I was raised in a conservative parish but no one was a fundy, nor was anyone insane like this group seems to be.

I long ago left the shackles of religion behind and will never put them on again.

But I respect those who are religious and practice the most basic tenets: "Do unto others as you would have then do unto you," and "Love one another" without making distinctions between "us' and "them."

Those who do not practice these tenets are NOT religious in any sense, no matter how loudly they proclaim their beliefs.

And I do NOT want any more fanatics of any kind on the US Supreme Court.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 01:34 PM

15. That thinking you're doing is not allowed by most religions

because it means they can't control you. Religion is all about control.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:38 PM

16. Which is why I

no longer practice any religion.

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