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Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:12 PM

Those who claim "no collusion" between Trump and Russia misrepresent a woefully inadequate report.

Just because Mueller's incomplete, excessively cautious, and actively obstructed investigation did not "establish" (as opposed to "find no evidence" ) that there was a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, doesn't mean that therefore there was "no collusion." When it comes to Trump's conflicts of interest and corruption re: Russia, there was (and is) PLENTY of evidence to suggest that there is a fire to all that smoke, so to speak. It's pretty fucking blatant.

But in terms of what they thought they needed to establish the existence of a criminal conspiracy that would hold up in federal court, Robert Mueller and his team were prevented from finding the full truth from the very people they were investigating - but also weren't willing to risk the investigation, because as their own report (and Trump's own public statements, including his tweets) demonstrates, Trump wanted them gone, and even ordered subordinates to fire Mueller.

The FBI and DOJ don't, as a rule, investigate people based on "nothingburgers" or "witch hunts", although this President and the current Attorney General certainly do - Trump literally got impeached for it, by targeting the man who will hopefully beat him in November (The projection never ends, does it? ). If federal agents are investigating and even arresting several members of a political campaign, and if some of them get prosecuted, you'd think that everyone would be at the very least suspicious of the candidate associated with that campaign. But no, we have "no collusion", "witch hunt", "greatest hoax ever", etc.

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Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

1. Don Jr colluded when he met to get dirt from the lawyer representing Russia

Papadopolis colluded. Manafort and Gates colluded by giving secret polling data to an agent of GRU.

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Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

2. Don Jr colluded when he met to get dirt from the lawyer representing Russia

Papadopolis colluded. Manafort and Gates colluded by giving secret polling data to an agent of GRU.

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