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Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:14 AM

Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?

I rather doubt it. It is just too much of a gamble for Republican Senators running in tight races. They do not need the extra burden of explaining their lies to their voters.

They operate in their own self-interests. Many, in my opinion, have concluded that it is better for them politically if they wait until after the election. They do not want to gamble at this point in their races.

Trump and McConnell may not like it but senators in tight races are not ready to sacrifice their careers for Donald Trump at this time.

They, unlike Collins and Murkowski, will choose to keep it quiet behind the scenes. If Trump has not named his nominee by this weekend, I suspect this is the reason why?

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Reply Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election? (Original post)
kentuck Sep 2020 OP
greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #1
beachbumbob Sep 2020 #2
PoliticAverse Sep 2020 #3
RazzleCat Sep 2020 #4
kentuck Sep 2020 #10
Cosmocat Sep 2020 #20
BeyondGeography Sep 2020 #5
still_one Sep 2020 #6
Mike 03 Sep 2020 #7
ooky Sep 2020 #8
JT45242 Sep 2020 #9
Iliyah Sep 2020 #11
dalton99a Sep 2020 #12
dixiechiken1 Sep 2020 #13
Lucinda Sep 2020 #14
empedocles Sep 2020 #15
MineralMan Sep 2020 #16
FBaggins Sep 2020 #17
kentuck Sep 2020 #18
FBaggins Sep 2020 #19
ScratchCat Sep 2020 #21

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:15 AM

1. Yes, and it is going to be vicious and an in-your-face flouting of norms and there's nothing

that can be done about it.

Our system is designed for long-term minority government, like a slaver state.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:17 AM

2. 100% they will, don;t fool yourself as this changes the direction of the court for 25 years

 

btw, it doesn;t matter if before or after the election as the outcome will be the same

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:17 AM

3. Before the election or before the inauguration? n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:18 AM

4. This is the real question

We may be able to keep them in line before, but after, no I don't think so.

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Response to RazzleCat (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:23 AM

10. That is more likely.

That they will vote in the lame duck session, after their races are over.

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Response to RazzleCat (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:46 AM

20. That is where I am at

The ones who lose, no reason for them not to vote for it.

Their entire lives and income are based on being slavish to the hatefulness of the con party. They make the vote they will remain a member in good status, be able to turn a buck being a Rick Santorum type talking head, being part of their "think tanks" that are awash in $$$, etc.

They don't vote for it they will be pariah's, not able to turn a buck off their status as ex senators, not welcome in their little club ...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:19 AM

5. Trump will name his nominee promptly and they will have the votes

Romney will come over and that will be the extent of the bleeding. Pence breaks the tie and if it needs to happen before Nov. 30 because of AZ it will.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:19 AM

6. Unfortunately, probably yes.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:22 AM

7. Probably, and one reason I think they are rushing this is that Mark Kelly is

favored to win in Arizona and could take office in November, jeopardizing the vote.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:22 AM

8. Yes. They risk their own base turning on them in the election if they don't.

They also have the option of just saying they will vote on a new SCOTUS judge in the lame duck session as well. But McConnell will want to put the vote to the floor as soon as he has the votes.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:23 AM

9. Nov 4 2020

So as to avoid any voter backlash. They will not consider anything until Nov 4.

Remember the R motto -- Elections (not crimes by us) have consequences

That way they get a RW nut job on the court to turn back gay marriage, interracial marriage, EEOC, ACA, Roe v Wade, Tinker v Des Moines, etc, etc, etc

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:24 AM

11. I've read that 22 have confirmed . . .

2 said not before the election, although concerned Collins will flip anyways . .

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:25 AM

12. Yes.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:34 AM

13. Yes.

Whether the actual vote takes place before the election or immediately following, McConnell will already have it locked down. Count on it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:36 AM

14. I don't think so... n/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:38 AM

15. Some signficant game changing things can happen in the coming weeks.

[traitortrump never stops, markets, polls, . . . ]

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:40 AM

16. There will be threats.

Heavy ones. Those GOP Senators who are facing close races in their states will receive a great deal of pressure from McConnell and others. I hope that some of them have it in them to put on their stainless steel jockstraps and do the right thing. However, I have little confidence in my hope.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:49 AM

17. You need to remember that Senators are state elections

I know you know that... but I don't think you've considered which republican senators have competitive races and which states those are in.

Other than Collins and maybe McSally, most of them are more likely to "sacrifice their careers" if they don't back Trump's nominee. They all have conservative bases that they can't win without. Collins is in a completely different position, where even her republican voters lean comparatively left.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:53 AM

18. I think more may in close races than we now think.

At least, I hope so.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 AM

19. It's actually a pretty long list

Seven are rated as tossups at worst... and 3-5 more are at least somewhat competitive depending on who you ask.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:55 AM

21. The fact that most did not immediately come forward

And state that precedent calls for the pick to wait until after the next POTUS is sworn in tells you exactly what their intentions are. They could have all nipped it in the bud and ended it right then and there.... and didn't. Its because their constituents want them to confirm a justice.

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