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Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:52 AM

Stove. Hot. OUCH!!!

Leslie Allen Jordan recently told this story as a tribute to his addiction sponsor who had passed away. The sponsor used this phrase to remind Leslie that when you continually do the same negative thing, you get the same result.

So, letís learn.

Never trust a Republican. Letís say that again, please. NEVER trust a Republican. One more time, please. NEVER TRUST A REPUBLICAN!!!

So, donít console yourself that Romney or Collins or Graham or Murkowski may stand up and go against party as to the nomination of RBGís successor. Hopefully, they will grow a conscience and do the right thing.

But you cannot trust them to do it because they are Republicans. If they had a moral compass, they would not be a Republican.

Stove. Hot. Ouch!!!

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Reply Stove. Hot. OUCH!!! (Original post)
hamsterjill Sep 19 OP
Hugin Sep 19 #1
BComplex Sep 19 #2
SheltieLover Sep 19 #4
hamsterjill Sep 19 #5
Rebl2 Sep 19 #22
Proud liberal 80 Sep 19 #3
hamsterjill Sep 19 #6
2naSalit Sep 19 #19
KS Toronado Sep 19 #31
2naSalit Sep 19 #32
Polybius Sep 19 #37
TexasBushwhacker Sep 19 #51
dmr Sep 20 #60
lunatica Sep 19 #42
SMC22307 Sep 19 #25
2naSalit Sep 19 #33
Texin Sep 19 #35
kentuck Sep 19 #7
wryter2000 Sep 19 #10
2naSalit Sep 19 #21
hamsterjill Sep 19 #26
wryter2000 Sep 19 #43
2naSalit Sep 19 #45
wryter2000 Sep 19 #47
Bettie Sep 19 #8
hamsterjill Sep 19 #41
mountain grammy Sep 19 #9
hamsterjill Sep 19 #38
mountain grammy Sep 19 #48
hamsterjill Sep 19 #49
Illumination Sep 19 #11
backscatter712 Sep 19 #12
2naSalit Sep 19 #23
JTOL Sep 19 #13
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 19 #14
2naSalit Sep 19 #24
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 19 #27
BlueJac Sep 19 #15
johnthewoodworker Sep 19 #16
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 19 #28
TNNurse Sep 19 #17
KatyMan Sep 19 #18
BigmanPigman Sep 19 #20
lark Sep 19 #29
live love laugh Sep 19 #30
hamsterjill Sep 19 #56
CTyankee Sep 19 #34
NoRoadUntravelled Sep 19 #36
hamsterjill Sep 19 #57
martouf Sep 19 #39
hamsterjill Sep 19 #44
GopherGal Sep 19 #50
safeinOhio Sep 19 #40
dalton99a Sep 19 #46
LakeArenal Sep 19 #52
hamsterjill Sep 19 #55
live love laugh Sep 19 #58
LakeArenal Sep 20 #61
live love laugh Sep 20 #62
LakeArenal Sep 20 #63
SunSeeker Sep 19 #53
hamsterjill Sep 19 #54
uponit7771 Sep 20 #59

Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:59 AM

1. The only way they'll stand up is if they feel there is a strong enough majority to get what...

they really want to pander to us for our votes.

Because, you see, they think we're stupid. Don't be stupid.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:05 AM

2. Never trust a republican. If they had a moral compass, they would not be a Republican.

You nailed it.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:25 AM

4. This!👆

Well said!

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Response to BComplex (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:41 AM

5. Thank you.

Iíve unfortunately always found that to be true.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:54 AM

22. Very true!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:11 AM

3. I think Romney is the only genuine one

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:42 AM

6. I don't ever count on him.

I think he may have an inkling of a conscience but heís still a Republican.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 AM

19. Nope. You cannot trust him to do the right thing in a time like this...

Senator 47% sees us much like -45 does so never give him the benefit of the doubt. His performance in the Senate impeachment trial was a blip, see it as such and go forth knowing better than to ever trust him with important decisions. I have been watching him for a long time and this is factual throughout his history.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:14 AM

31. His impeachment vote was only window dressing for his next presidential run.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:16 AM

32. And it was an act, period.

He wouldn't have done it if it really would have changed things.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:30 AM

37. It only made him more hated by the base

They didn't like him all that much in 2012 either. Some held their nose to vote for him, but many stayed home or voted 3rd Party. He'd get clobbered by Tucker Carlson in 2024, that's how crazy the base is now.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:21 PM

51. Evangelical Christians think Mormonism is a cult

Of course, they don't see their own Trump worshipping behavior as cult like at all.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 01:11 AM

60. Funny how that is, eh?

A bunch of miserable hypocrites.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:55 AM

42. Vulture capitalism and animal abuser.

Both show he has about as much empathy as Trump does.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:00 AM

25. FFS, the Bain Capital guy who killed Mom & Pop?

Mr. 47 Percent?

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:16 AM

33. +1

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:20 AM

35. Don't kid yourself. He sure didn't sound "genuine" back in 2012.

Every single one of these weasels will fall in line with Moscow Mitch. They've proven over and over and over again that they will only fall in lock step to keep their power.

Oh, and the notion that Dems will add seats on the bench can just as easily be accomplished by rethugs as Dems. When they get that super majority on the SCOTUS, as they will - and soon - they can do the exact same thing. There are NEVER political *consequences* for rethugs.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:45 AM

7. They will do what is in their best interest.

We know there are no profiles in courage in the Republican Party.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:25 AM

10. True but

For some in states where Trump is hugely unpopular, defying Turtleman may be in their best interest. If I were Susan Collins, Iíd be all over this to show my independence from Trump.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:53 AM

21. She'll string you along to the last minute...

and stab you in the brain when it comes down to the vote, or even speaking out. She is totally owned by the groupthink and will never do anything to cast a shadow on their agenda.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:00 AM

26. Exactly! She does it every freaking time.

Same M.O.

Stove. Hot. OUCH!!!

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:14 PM

43. She voted to save the ACA

And her constituents greeted her with applause at the airport. This could be her best shot to save her Senate seat. She's in trouble now because of just the behavior you mentioned. She would only have to say we should hold up the appointment until after the election. Murkowski already has said that.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #43)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:48 PM

45. And it would be as genuine as

Rmoney's impeachment performance.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #45)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:29 PM

47. I don't care if it's genuine

Why should I?

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:56 AM

8. Thank you for saying this

because some people seem to have a hard time wrapping their minds around this simple fact.

They are not to be trusted, if there are two options, one benign and one that is cruel, they will choose cruelty each and every time. If there is one option that builds and one that destroys, they will choose destruction every time.

Why is that so hard for people to see?

Is it doom and gloom to see clearly what is happening around us?

Remember, these are the same people who, when it looked like Clinton would win declared that she would never get SCOTUS pick.

Remember, these are the people who kept a record number of judicial vacancies throughout Obama's terms so that they could stack the courts with unqualified right wingers the second they had the power to do so. And they have.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:49 AM

41. And thank you for saying that "is it doom and gloom to see clearly what is happening around us".

I'm really sick and tired of all of the cheerleaders here. I deal in reality. And reality sucks right now. That doesn't mean I'm rolling over and giving up. It means I'm ready to fight to the death because of it.

You cannot described a negative situation without being negative. You cannot and should not sugarcoat the truth. We all lived through 2016 and we know that Trump is Putin's puppet and that he's going to cheat any way he can. Hell, I believe every Republican alive is capable of that to get what they want.

I don't trust polls. We made THAT mistake in 2016. Saying that I don't shouldn't be an excuse for anyone to give up and not go vote, yet I've been told that is what happens - been told that on DU. If Biden is ahead, then I'm elated, but I won't trust anything until he's sworn in on January 20th. Anyone else who doesn't understand that doesn't have the same understanding of 2016. I'd rather think that Biden is behind and make sure EVERYONE goes to vote.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:14 AM

9. Learned that at my mother's knee

while Eisenhower was president..she was OK with Ike, but Nixon really grated on her and then came Joe McCarthy. She said, never trust Republicans..

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:42 AM

38. Learned it from my dad.

A rancher who had lived through the Great Depression. Until the day he died, I watched him eat his good fast at meals, and that stemmed from the fact that when he was young, if you waited, you might not have anything to eat.

He always said that Democrats were the party of the people and Republicans were the party of the rich. He would go on to say that it always had been that way and always will be.

He died in 2010 at the age of 95. He wasn't wrong then and he's not been wrong since.

No quarter!

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:40 PM

48. You were lucky to have him so long

Mom only made it to 77. Lost her in 1988.

Your dad got to see Obama elected.. How my mom would have loved that..

And they were 100% right..

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #48)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:31 PM

49. Yes ma'am.

I miss him every day as Iím sure you do your mom.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:26 AM

11. Thanks for reminding us of the fact that they're the rejects that momma cat didn't want...

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:30 AM

12. This is why we pressure the vulnerable ones.

Cory Gardner, Susan Collins, LadyG, Lisa Murkowski...

They're the ones scared shitless of losing their seats. Lean on them hard.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:57 AM

23. Steve Daines too.

He wants to sell off public lands, privatize the national parks and start drilling and chopping down forests so the cows can graze them. Oh and then there the coal mining.

Steve Bullock, his opponent, can use some help to get over the MOE. So don't forget to help Montana or we'll start hearing about how we have too many senators again.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:37 AM

13. Again

Never trust a Republican.
No more harshly worded letters from Dems.
No more empty threats from Dems
No more broadcasting what we might do
JUST DO IT

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:39 AM

14. That's the damn truth.

Certainly no expectation that Collins will do the right thing.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:58 AM

24. How many stab wounds do we already have?

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:03 AM

27. Ow my back. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. .....

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:40 AM

15. Agree

Never trust them

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:44 AM

16. Republicans are America's nazis. Don't expect nazis to do the right thing.

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Response to johnthewoodworker (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:03 AM

28. +1000

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:45 AM

17. Cannot imagine that anyone would trust Collins on anything.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:47 AM

18. Truth

People often make the mistake of thinking republicans are decent, moral people that will do the right thing. They aren't. They are craven, unprincipled cowards who think of nothing but money and power, leading a rabble of ignorant syncophants.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 AM

20. That was the family motto growing up.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:05 AM

29. The only time they do right is when they are afraid.

So a few (Collins, specifically) will vote against the repug because if she doesn't she is out of a job and power & money are the only things repugs actually care about but there won't be enough to stop the candidate is my fear. So, we need to work our asses off to get folks to vote for Biden and other D's and hope we can pull off a miracle and win all 3 branches and stop the rw fascist roll. Otherwise, we will lose so much we care about, even our lives through this assholes push for herd immunity.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:06 AM

30. ABSOLUTELY correct! NEVER trust a Republican. nt

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:30 PM

56. Thank you.

Appreciate your response. Hope you are well and safe.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:19 AM

34. Yep, just get 'em all OUT. Let God sort them out.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:22 AM

36. Spot on!

Republicans cannot be trusted. They've proven that again and again. If anyone is lulled into believing otherwise just because the lies may be coming out of a different face, then it's on the ones being deceived.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:31 PM

57. Totally!

Thank you for your response. We must learn not to forget this when the honey talk is dripping from their mouths.

Be safe!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

39. This means Steve Schmidt and the whole Lincoln Project team

 

Remember that Steve Schmidt, George Conway, and all the others who are against Trump are still Republicans.

As soon as a guy (yes, guy - not woman) they like is back in power they will be back to their usual policies. They will be back to trying to take away health care, Social Security, and Medicare. They will be back to making corporations more powerful and individual workers into serfs. They will be back to depressing wages and benefits in favor of profits.

They may, temporarily, be our allies in the fight against Trump, but they are not our friends nor kindred spirits. They will be our enemies again soon enough.

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Response to martouf (Reply #39)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:18 PM

44. +1000

Use them for what we can get from them because thatís what they do to us. They are only backing Biden because they hate Trump. As long as it benefits our cause, thatís great. But never forget who they are.

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Response to martouf (Reply #39)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:40 PM

50. They'll get my cheers

and "attaboys" for denouncing Dirty Donnie.

But they won't get my monetary support for fear that once we defeat His Grotesqueness they'll take their resources and train their guns once again on the disadvantaged, women, minorities, and working people.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:47 AM

40. Stay away from red faces and

red places.

Vote Blue.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:49 PM

46. In other words, don't be stupid.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:49 PM

52. All this, don't trust a Republican.

Lots of folks here love Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace. That Navarro woman on the View is a Republican.

We better learn to work with some Republicans.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #52)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

55. Working with them is not the same as trusting them.

We can work with them when they are willing to respect us and make reasonable compromise. But we just canít turn our backs on them.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #52)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:26 PM

58. Democrats have worked with Republicans. It's Republicans who haven't worked with us.


Democrats have attempted to negotiate, turned against our own (crucified Bill Clinton) when Republicans donít--weíve practically bent over backwards and each concession on our part has been an encroachment on the part of Republicans. They never let up and wonít until they have total dominance.

Theyíre ruthless and what we better learn is not to be pushovers in the face of ruthlessness.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #58)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 11:31 AM

61. Who the heck said be s pushover.

Hopefully thereís a new US coming.
I actually want people to stop sounding like hateful Republican. Become the US everyone says we are.

Pretty tired of the doom and gloom. We all gonna die stuff. Life sucks right now. Agreed. But all signs point to a great new US.

This giving up hope shit is exactly want the Pukes want to hear. We sound just like them.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #61)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 01:32 PM

62. "Giving up hope..."?? "The us everyone says we are"?

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #62)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 01:39 PM

63. No. Look closer... the US. United States of America.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

53. "If they had a moral compass, they would not be a Republican."

That basically sums it up.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #53)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

54. Unfortunately, it does.

Thanks for responding. Hope you are safe and well.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 01:04 AM

59. K&R,

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