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Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:25 PM

Donald Trump Is Waiting for You in First Class (The Atlantic)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/i-moved-on-her-very-heavily-part-3/616201/


Midsummer twilight, and Jessica Leeds and I are letting down what’s left of our hair. Jessica confesses that one time she interviews with a computer company, and afterward she hears that all everybody is talking about is whether or not she was wearing a bra. (She was.) Then I confess that one time I buy a ticket to Johannesburg and a coxcomb from the South African consulate makes me sit on his lap before he agrees to give me a visa. What else do we confess? Well, let me just say that if you have never Zoomed with a silver-haired, soigné 78-year-old woman who describes what it is like being strapped in a seat on a Braniff flight with a future president of the United States trying to fasten his lips on her like a 6-foot-3 suckfish, well, in my opinion, reader, you have not lived, let alone Zoomed, at all.

But before we board that Braniff flight, we must first deal with another matter. Again and again we see Jessica, one of the first women to publicly accuse Trump of sexual assault in 2016, on the front page of The New York Times or sitting for an interview with Anderson Cooper—and what do we see?

“I know that if the story gets any attention, the first thing Trump will say is that I’m not pretty enough,” Jessica says. “I know instinctively that’s what he’s going to say.”

I snort like the empress of Blandings Castle.

Trump, in fact, yammers about Jessica’s accusations at a rally, and hoots, “Believe me, she would not be my first choice!”

How did Jessica know? Because Jessica is an old bat. Old bats are the best. I am an old bat myself. We old bats don’t kid ourselves.

“I want to tell everyone,” Jessica says. “In my 30s, I’m not bad looking. I certainly never compete in any beauty contest, but I am pretty enough. Thank you.”

*snip*





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Nevilledog Sep 11 OP
SheltieLover Sep 11 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 11 #2
Sogo Sep 11 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 11 #4
Sogo Sep 11 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 11 #6
musette_sf Sep 11 #7
stillcool Sep 11 #8
smirkymonkey Sep 11 #9
GoneOffShore Sep 11 #10

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:26 PM

1. K&R!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:39 PM

2. The denouement:

Although regretting that she had not “planted my fist right into the man-on-the-plane’s nose—I think I really could’ve broken it,” Jessica moves on. Something happens a year or two later that brings back the plane and parks it forever in the hangar of her brain.

The event occurs after Jessica leaves the paper company and just before she aces every question in her Bache & Co. interview by answering as if she is a man, viz: “My Boy Scout leader’s opinion means more to me than my mother’s.” She goes on to pass the Series 7: General Securities Representative Qualification Exam and becomes a stockbroker with Bache, which is later bought by Prudential and becomes Prudential-Bache. These are the days when Jessica has a great little apartment in a brownstone on East 83rd, before she runs into fellow broker Buddy Leeds in the 86th Street subway station (reader, she marries him), and is helping out at a gala for the Humane Society of New York. The event is at Saks Fifth Avenue, and she is wearing a Mary McFadden dress in taxi-cab yellow. “I mean,” Jessica says, “I am meeting Geoffrey Beene, I am meeting Bill Blass, and Mary McFadden comes up and says, ‘That’s my dress!’ It is a fabulous, fabulous evening.

“Then Trump and his wife, Ivana, come in. She is very pregnant. He looks at me when I hand him his table assignment. And I look at him and I think, I remember you. And he stands there and stares at me, and he says, ‘I remember you. You’re the c*nt from the airplane.’”


Charming guy.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:48 PM

3. Are they complaining? They seem to know the drill and are going along with it....



This passage:


In the 1970s, 1980s, it is impossible to surprise a woman: “It never occurs to me not to say yes—it had happened to me before,” Jessica tells me.

“Me too,” I say. You too, reader?

I accept the fact,” says Jessica, flashing a sarcastic look from under her brows, “that I’m entertainment for the big honchos up in first class.

“Ahh, Jessica,” I say. “People may not understand what we’re talking about.”

What we are talking about is how things used to be: about buying a ticket, putting on our best clothes, and boarding a cocktail party heading for New York or Chicago or Miami or any jazzy city, U.S.A. The party lacks zip unless somebody very rich or very pretty is present. Because to fly 1,500 miles without a beautiful woman next to you is like sitting in a restaurant without being served an entrée.

Men in first class will size up the female passengers before boarding and hold a brief conference with the check-in crew. Or, alternatively, a helpful flight attendant on a jumbo jet to L.A. will simply stand in the aisle next to me waving people away and rearranging the seating chart so that an extremely tall chap with hair like greased felt can have the spot by me. And, after the plane takes off, following the meal, the chap can show me a photo of his private plane and then show me a photo of his Rolls-Royce, and then show me his erection.

“Trump may have asked the flight attendant to go and fetch you,” I say.

“It could be,” Jessica says.

So you come walking up to first class—”

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Response to Sogo (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:56 PM

4. You must not have been a woman in the '70s.

In those days you'd go along to get along. Women had been conditioned to believe they were entertainment for men, and we'd put up with a lot so we wouldn't be slagged as man-hating lesbians or nasty b*tches.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:58 PM

5. As much as I am one today....

Maybe it's because I'm from a different part of the country, or maybe it's because of how I was raised, but I wouldn't have gone along with that shit.

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Response to Sogo (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:59 PM

6. I don't know what I'd have done in that particular circumstance,

but I did tolerate a lot more abuse then than I'd put up with now.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:04 PM

7. Thank you

It was a very different world then. More like Mad Men than people might think.

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Response to Sogo (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:07 PM

8. Is who complaining?

Did you read the article, or just that paragraph?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:28 PM

9. OMG! He is absolutely disgusting!

What a pig!

I'm just going to throw something out there, and I don't expect it to be a popular idea, but I don't really think that Trump is genuinely sexually attracted to women at all. I think he likes to humilate them and dominate them sexually. I think he likes to show off by having beautiful women around him, but I really don't think he is genuinely attracted to women. Even with Ivanka, he is turned on by her because she is the closest thing to being him in this world.

I have never seen him light up around a woman, he has only treated them with scorn and contempt. I have only seen him light up around certain men. Men who are powerful, brutal, evil, dictatorial and cruel. That is the only time I have ever seen him really flirt, be charming or show a genuine smile or twinkle in his eye. I have never, ever seen that kind of response in him when he has been around a woman. He is always hostile and domineering. Sex is a weapon for him. It is not about pleasure, it is about power. He is the ultimate rapist.

Think about it. Have you ever seen him light up like this around a woman?

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:42 PM

10. He behaves around Putin exactly like Pence behaves around him.

He's a bottom.

And sure, if that's what makes your Velcro™ rip, run with it. But really run with it.

pmurT is one of those guys who really hates women. He likes to fuck them, but he hates them.

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