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Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:46 PM

So, let me see if I've got this right...if a journalist doesn't spill the beans

or blow the whistle, that excuses the President of the United States for not having done his job?













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Reply So, let me see if I've got this right...if a journalist doesn't spill the beans (Original post)
Sogo Sep 2020 OP
beachbumbob Sep 2020 #1
Sogo Sep 2020 #7
mitch96 Sep 2020 #15
mzmolly Sep 2020 #18
Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #20
TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #25
markpkessinger Sep 2020 #26
MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #2
Montelimar Sep 2020 #3
Sogo Sep 2020 #4
BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #17
GusBob Sep 2020 #5
Sogo Sep 2020 #9
GusBob Sep 2020 #10
Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #21
lame54 Sep 2020 #6
boston bean Sep 2020 #8
IllinoisBirdWatcher Sep 2020 #11
backtoblue Sep 2020 #12
Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #23
orwell Sep 2020 #13
Squinch Sep 2020 #14
BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #16
aidbo Sep 2020 #19
UTUSN Sep 2020 #22
Paladin Sep 2020 #24
Ani Yun Wiya Sep 2020 #27
Sogo Sep 2020 #28

Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:48 PM

1. Not at all BUT the journalist is now complicit with the outcome

 

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:54 PM

7. I see that as deflection from the real issue.

That's how Trump ALWAYS gets off.....i.e. point the finger at someone else.

What Woodward did or didn't do is really beside the point....IMHO....





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Response to Sogo (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:32 PM

15. Yes, the classic gaslight....

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036855/
I'm to blame? No YOUR to blame....
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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:51 PM

18. Trump leads a cult.

If the outcome is election loss for Trump, the journalist in question, spared us more death and destruction.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:23 PM

20. Oh please!! You really think a tell all book would have made a difference when no one wanted to

Listen to the experts??

Stop!!

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:20 PM

25. If the journalist spilled the beans, he wouldn't have gotten 18 interviews, and other confessions.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:35 PM

26. As I have pointed out in other threads . . . .

. . . Woodward was most likely contractually barred from disclosing details from the book prior to its release. Publishing is a business, and publishers know how to protect and maximize their investment. It is a virtual certainty that they would have included a clause barring such disclosures in their contract with Woodward. And if you think he should have gone ahead and breached it, that's easy to say when you aren't the one facing liability for lost book sales, as well as legal fees (your own AND the publisher's, should you lose the breach of contract suit that would most surely be filed).

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:48 PM

2. Exactly!

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:50 PM

3. Evidently Bob Woodward

 

was on the 2016 ballot, is an epidemiologist, has as much power as the president and the federal government.

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Response to Montelimar (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:50 PM

4. Bingo.

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Response to Montelimar (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:48 PM

17. Yes, he's been elevated to co president status by some deeply misguided folks.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:51 PM

5. What if the president isnt doing the job and the journalist knows it?

Woodward himself is now saying trump aint up to the task

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Response to GusBob (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:55 PM

9. The President STILL isn't doing his job.

Let's stay focused, i.e., Trump not Woodward!




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Response to Sogo (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:58 PM

10. Its September Not March

The election will not solve the problems of this past Spring

Trump losing the election will not bring back the dead

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Response to GusBob (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:25 PM

21. Hillary said time and again that dotard was not up to the task. Should we bash her again too??

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:53 PM

6. With the help of DU - yes

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:54 PM

8. No. It means the journalist lacks integrity by withholding such

Important information which they are to provide to the public so they can earn money from a book.

This is life and death shit. Not some scoop about corruption.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:00 PM

11. tRumpian "logic" No beans no spilling.

If it took Woodward months to find the exact tree which fell in the woods, then did the tree really fall?

tRump says no. So simple (for simple-minded people).

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:02 PM

12. That's the faux news spin

The crisis and direlection of duty is squarely on 45s shoulders.


He owns this.


A reporter that releases info late is a MILLION times a better person than the people who know 45 is a treasonous bas6ard, yet still remain silent.

Jmho

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:28 PM

23. This!! These kinds of continued hits knock dotard off his narrative. Timing is everything

In the meantime the election grows closer and closer and he has no time to make up any ground.

Spinning this saying Woodward was or is in any responsible is exactly what dotard wants..

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:02 PM

13. If he does "spill the beans"...

...he is a dishonorable traitor.

If you are a whistleblower, even if proven right, you are a "disgruntled deep state operative."

See how easy that is.

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”George Orwell

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:17 PM

14. That's what I'm reading here. Can't say it seems sane to me, though. Or even slightly ethical.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:44 PM

16. Apparently so

Loads of sanctimony about this from some here.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:21 PM

19. Is it really so hard to understand?

 

The president should have responded more effectively and told the American people the truth.
And the journalist should have told the American people that the president was lying to them when he knew, not delay the information for months in order to keep from undercutting his book sales.
Only the lying president and his staff are trying to spin it the way you present it.
Simple stuff.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:26 PM

22. Who is saying "excusing"?

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:33 PM

24. Keep the pressure and the blame on trump, for now.

We can deal with Woodward's judgment and complicity, down the line. After we've driven the evil monster from the White House.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:51 PM

27. What I don't get..

is why Woodward is at fault. After all the crucial information was online as early as mid December and by mid January many other nations had acted upon the severity of the circumstance that the entire world was affected by.

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Response to Ani Yun Wiya (Reply #27)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:17 PM

28. I don't believe Woodward is at fault.

Trump took the information and the actions that the rest of the world took and flipped it all on its head. Why? Because HE was panicked that the stock market would tank and that, along with the COVID numbers, would sink his chances for re-election. In short, once again he thought he could con his way out of the situation, with the assistance of Fox News.

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