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Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:37 AM

Interesting numbers from Marist Poll in PA

Kornacki just went over the numbers on MSNBC:

In 2016, Trump tied with Hillary with white voters with college degree.

With non-college degree white voters, Trump won by 32%!

In 2020, Trump is behind Biden by 25% with white voters with college degree.

With non-college degree white voters, Trump wins 22%, instead of the 32% as in 2016.

He also said that white voters make up 80% of the voters in PA.

From a distance, that looks like an ass-kicking, at this moment in time.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:42 AM

1. its the educated white female voter that trump loss and not getting back

 

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:47 AM

2. They are the same ones that live in the suburbs that got us the house wins in 2018 n/t

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Response to Claustrum (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:48 AM

3. yep and its in bluestates that the trump taxcut was meant to punish and it backfired as it punished

 

the GOP voter in the well to do suburbs,

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:21 AM

11. It still confounds me they ever voted for him in the first place

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:19 PM

14. idealogy to begin with, then reality set in

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:53 AM

4. Media wants a horse race

so they are going to laser focus on any number that doesn't look good for Biden - thus Morning Joe's obsessive focus on latino voter numbers in Florida in a recent poll.

These other numbers are damning for Dotard.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:54 AM

5. The differences this time are....

1. Joe Biden does not have the baggage as did Hillary Clinton. Trump is having a hard time defining him. Trump's lies are not taking hold.

2. Joe Biden is reaching voters on a level Trump is not. He sees and feels their pain economically, financially, medically.

3. Joe has support from the Military community. He will NEVER disparage them. To do so, would be to disparage his son, John McCain, Tammy Duckworth, and all who served or are serving.

4. Joe will deliver. He oversaw the Economic recovery that took 4 years to take hold. Obama handed Trump a good economy. He knows what businesses need to stay afloat.

5. Joe and Kamala represent HONESTY, DECENCY, and INTEGRITY. Despite the furor, a return to some sort of normalcy is sorely needed.

I could be wrong. But I do believe voters are finally waking up because Trump now has a record to defend.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:02 AM

7. 6. Trump is losing voters and not expanding his base

he is losing Indys and suburban women who are sick of his antics

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:14 AM

8. The baggage of being a woman?

Yep

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:12 PM

13. Hillary was vllified by Republicans since before she became First Lady and beyond.

They have stuck it to her ever since.

Joe Biden has a record of working across the isle in the US Senate. He respected those who disagreed with him, as did Hillary. The brooms and pitchforks were out for Hillary in ways that angered me because she was so qualified to be POTUS and how much better off we would have been with her leadership.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:00 AM

6. I had read they are conducting the polls differently

at least in Michigan they had over polled the college folks and under polled the noncollege folks

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Response to GusBob (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:20 AM

10. Interesting.

Also, whether they are "registered" or "likely" voters?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:25 AM

12. not sure

I am trying to remember the source. I think it was 538. Also this was referring to 2016 to be clear

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:14 AM

9. the white voters without college degrees get nothing from trump. his policies will destroy them

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