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Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:40 AM

So I thought I was in middle of Trumper country,,

And Honestly, we are. since we moved to Fla. but our campground where we moved had a Labor day thing yesterday. Lo and Behold! out of the 40 or so people that attended,,LilBit and Mrs and I leaves about 37,,, only 2,,,count em 2!!!! said they are voting for Trump. the rest are "closet Dems" They came ,asked questions about LilBit, changed the topic to politics, and looked ,in my opinion,sheepishly and told me ,,I gotta vote for Joe. I just said to them, why are you being so quiet about it?

Long evening and story ,short, We have a bunch of new friends, I have 4 new golf partners, that will not play golf in this town, but will travel to play golf. That goes back to the story of a local biz owner at Country Club here, who called, LilBit and me the R word. and they agreed to pull their membership and travel to golf with LilBit and I. 1 guy even tossed his red cap after talking to us and learning about LilBit.

My point,,I thought I had to be quieter here to protect against violence from Trumpers,,, seems LilBit has a bunch of Protectors along the way. This is just a ripple in the waters, in this small part of the country. I'm confident now, this kind of thing is happening all over.

Enough small ripples, make a wave,enough waves,,makes a tsunami. LETS GO!!!

Just go out and listen, make your points when asked.We don't need to force our beliefs, we are on the right side of history, most people know it,they just need verification for their mind.

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Reply So I thought I was in middle of Trumper country,, (Original post)
kozar Sep 2020 OP
secondwind Sep 2020 #1
FM123 Sep 2020 #2
SheltieLover Sep 2020 #3
Beakybird Sep 2020 #4
tblue37 Sep 2020 #5
Indykatie Sep 2020 #7
niyad Sep 2020 #9
kozar Sep 2020 #14
kag Sep 2020 #45
jimfields33 Sep 2020 #6
beachbumbob Sep 2020 #8
lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #12
Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #19
Neema Sep 2020 #25
SpaceNeedle Sep 2020 #43
Pluvious Sep 2020 #32
List left Sep 2020 #46
jimfields33 Sep 2020 #30
niyad Sep 2020 #10
DownriverDem Sep 2020 #11
kozar Sep 2020 #15
MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #35
Generic Brad Sep 2020 #44
ancianita Sep 2020 #13
calimary Sep 2020 #23
ancianita Sep 2020 #27
calimary Sep 2020 #31
usaf-vet Sep 2020 #16
MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #17
kozar Sep 2020 #29
KPN Sep 2020 #18
Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #20
RobertDevereaux Sep 2020 #21
Sloumeau Sep 2020 #22
qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #41
iluvtennis Sep 2020 #24
SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #26
malaise Sep 2020 #28
Hekate Sep 2020 #33
voteearlyvoteoften Sep 2020 #34
Karadeniz Sep 2020 #36
Stuart G Sep 2020 #37
Rice4VP Sep 2020 #38
fierywoman Sep 2020 #39
Locrian Sep 2020 #40
StrictlyRockers Sep 2020 #42
Aussie105 Sep 2020 #47

Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:46 AM

1. This was a joy to read! Thank you!!!!!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:55 AM

2. Just what I need to to hear this morning to start my day!

Sending you and LilBit hugs

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:56 AM

3. Yaaaaaay!

Great job, K!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:15 AM

4. Very encouraging! What is the R-word? Who is Lil-bit? Your child?

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:20 AM

5. The "r-word" rhymes with "bard." LilBit is his daughter. nt

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:25 AM

7. Great Story - It Would Have Been Even Greater if I knew About R and Lil-bit

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Response to Indykatie (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:56 AM

9. See post 5.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:06 AM

14. LilBit is my 32 yo challenged daughter

ty tblue, the R word is one we do not use,,my brother,used it when he first met LilBit,Tess is her name. I kinda like LilBit better. anyway, I havent spoken to my brother since. he says,"it is just how we talk" I said "nope,,it is just how you believe" 18 years ago..Ill type here,pains me,,the word is Retard.
Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:38 PM

45. I like "LilBit"

But I also like Tess. Tess is the name of the only babysitter my kids ever had. Great name.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:21 AM

6. Did they vote trump or Hillary in 16?

Florida is half GOP and half DNC basically. It’d be nice if they were new voters for Joe!!!!!

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:36 AM

8. Florida older GOP voters have a dilemna as Medicare and SS is why most have a retirement

 

in the first place. The loss of support of trump in Florida can be traced to the loss of the over 65yr old crowd with more loss to come as AARP (40 MILLION paid members) and all the democratic SuperPacs take to airwave using trumps own words of defunding SS and medicae.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:51 AM

12. It's astounding that he pulled the rug out from under one of his main voter blocks

Not a great idea.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:36 AM

19. I don't think he understood what ...

... he was doing. He has probably hated the payroll tax system for decades because it cost him some money. He just assumed others hated it too. He likely just didn’t get the connection.

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:44 AM

25. He has no idea what he's doing. Putin got him in the WH to sow chaos.

And that's exactly what he's doing. He's too stupid to be an evil mastermind, he's just a bloviating, narcissistic, bigoted grifter. Putin can count on him to keep pulling at the loose threads in our democracy and be too stupid to realize that it will end as badly for him as it will for the rest of our country.

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Response to Neema (Reply #25)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:23 PM

43. Putin, being shrewd, will be forced to make amends with the Biden admin

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin throws the dotard under the bus and hands over all the Trump/wikileaks correspondence to Biden. The pee tape would be attached to the box like a cherry on a cake.

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

32. We ARE talking about the moran that wants to nuke hurricanes and

... still thinks tariffs are paid by the government of the shipper's country.

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Response to Pluvious (Reply #32)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:19 AM

46. And thinks making travelers pay a toll Mexico paying for the wall... nt

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:14 AM

30. That is so awesome!

The Democratic Party needs to yell that constantly in Florida and Pennsylvania as well. Pennsylvania has a large senior population as well.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:57 AM

10. Thank you so much for sharing. A great start to this (thankfully) cooler day.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:36 AM

11. Good to hear but

I could never knowingly live where it is known to be repub/red.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:13 AM

15. Agree

but with a caveat I moved to protect Mrs and LilBit financially and physically, Healthcare better here, truth be told LilBit was in ICU here fro 5 days,,she has never been physically better it's just get past politics,research,,and take care of,,my girls.

Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:49 PM

35. We need more blue votes to move down here

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:49 PM

44. I found myself in a place like that and it's great

I have found that the majority or people are apolitical or just focus on other things. Some places are red because the majority simply doesn't bother to vote.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:52 AM

13. Great intel. Thank you thank you.

We still mustn't get complacent. This thing won't win itself. Let's hope the campers are registered and will vote. Many who know the right thing to do haven't prepared sufficiently to do it.

Keep up that spirit! Give trumphumpers some hope!

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Response to ancianita (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:42 AM

23. Indeed. Terrific intel.

I hope there are reawakening like this all across America!

My friend the Republican is not voting for trump again. She somehow can’t bring herself to vote for Biden, so she’s going Libertarian this time. Go figure. But any vote on that side that’s NOT for trump is a good vote. Now I find myself thinking “one less vote for trump!” every time she and I talk.

She just couldn’t possibly bring herself to voting for Hillary... (for me that’s nearly impossible to reason out. Simply do NOT understand that one).

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Response to calimary (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:56 AM

27. Well...

If we could reason with trumphumpers, there wouldn't be any. Your friend is still party over country. The campaign against Hillary was 40 years of propaganda that cultivated the gullible cult who, at heart, just cannot trust a woman. Kamala will face the same attempt, though she will have built trust and get the same wave that likely comes this time.

Deprogramming trumphumpers will take a while. If I knew your friend I would remind her that we Biden voters are literally saving her USPS, Social Security, Medicare, and getting an expert national pandemic team, and her younger family jobs through the Green New Deal's huge green manufacturing industries.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:59 AM

31. Oh yeah. She's BIG on her pensions.

An actress. As is typical for actresses over “a certain age”, there are few roles, and of those, the big names get them, and casting usually only takes a chance on someone who’s young and considered “hot” in one way or other. My friend is unfortunately one of those older actresses who “can’t get arrested” in Hollywood.

I think her main objection has to do with the abortion issue, which is big for her. She doesn’t see the “get the government OUT of my gyno’s office and OUT of my body!” argument. At the same time she’s also, somehow, on the “hate big government” bandwagon. Go figure.

Long ago, she actually “had to” get married (if you know what I mean...). Her lover was a younger man who HATED having to be “tied

I suppose that side rationalizes that it’s really not “big” government intruding into a woman’s privacy and the most personal and intimate regions of HER body. Maybe in that one situation, they imagine a government about the size of a dildo or something...

The hypocrisy is strong in that one, Luke.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:25 AM

16. Again. I am see lots of (former?) 45 supporters from 2016 who have down ticket signs on their lawns.

BUT NO Trump/Pence signs. And the signs ARE available in town.

The one neighbor, in particular, was an airborne gung-ho veteran Korea and Vietnam tours I believe. NO SIGNS for T and P.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:28 AM

17. Great news!

What part of Florida?

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:11 AM

29. Chiefland

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:32 AM

18. Quite uplifting actually. Thanks for that. .... Now a caveat:

Don't let up! All of us need to do everything we can to GOTV and ensure that our votes are counted. Remember, he and the Rs are desperate and will do everything they can to steal this election because they are left with no other good alternative -- at least in their minds. Given the fragility of his ego and mind, this is life and death for tRump. He is all in because he has no other viable alternative. It's either he steals it, or the end for him.

Go Blue!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

20. Moved to my house 3 years ago

I live in Conservative West Michigan. Suburban Grand Rapids.

Neighbor across the street has been really unfriendly the whole time I lived here. I was walking my dog one evening and her dog was off the leash and came charging at us and our dogs had a 2 second scrap, her dog bit my dog in the shoulder where she just had surgery and my dog bit her dog in the throat requiring stitches. A couple days later the lady comes running out when I'm walking my dog again asking if my dog had its shots, it turns out the lady didn't even know we lived across the street. I assured her my dog had its shots and apologized that her dog was injured, but reminded her that her dog should have been leashed.

Well a week later, my Joe Biden sign came and I put it out in the yard. That evening I was doing some gardening in the front yard and the same lady comes running across the street with a big smile on her face. She's a Dem and was thrilled to see a Biden sign in the yard. We talked for a few and she was the nicest lady and really invested in the election. She said she had ordered her sign and was waiting for it to arrive. A couple weeks later her sign came, and so did the Biden-Harris signs for the 3 houses next to hers. So on our little block we now have 5 or 6 Biden signs, almost in a row, and 0 Trump signs! Really thought it would be 50-50. In fact, in my subdivision of about 60 houses, I see 0 Trump signs to about 10 Biden signs so far.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:41 AM

21. A beautiful sharing. Heartening. Thank you!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:41 AM

22. I had no idea which word "the R word" might be, so...

I went to this list of offensive words to find out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

My first thought was, "What did they call them? Republicans? Now that really *would* have been offensive".

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Response to Sloumeau (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:15 PM

41. See Item #14.

Not going to repeat it.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:42 AM

24. aww, love this story. thanks for sharing.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:56 AM

26. My best to you and your family kozar, in FL. Everywhere across this great country of ours,

I see people questioning their former votes (for rump) and why they voted for him before. Three of the main reasons are:

-his ridiculous statement about those who serve in the military (suckers and losers), confirmed by at least 4 different sources (count them);

-his attack on Social Security (again, yet another attack on SS by trump, why? With his supposed $billions, why isn't he instead, trying to find ways to further strengthen SS instead of dismantling it?);

-the grossly incompetent manner in how he handled the entire corona virus (CV) epidemic, as well as the seeming lack of sorrow towards those passing and/or suffering from the CV.

Of course many more reasons could be listed but I won't go into them and you're well aware of them too. We all are.

My best to you and yours, and I want to compliment you for the magnificent manner in how you handle others when the issue of your daughter comes up (in dealing w/ those persons who are ignorant, you know what I mean). This to me is especially worth its weight in gold as I, when I was growing up as a young child, I was called the 'R' word because of my disability.

To this day, I will rage against those who use the 'R' so loosely and hatefully, and this is especially true after the crap that rump pulled in his one news conference mocking the disabled news reporter. There is no excuse ever to use such a hateful and mean-spirited word.

Disgusting behavior on the part of a disgusting human being. When I saw that, that sealed the deal for me, I will never support a dips**t who mocks the disabled in such a manner and I dare anyone who does support this POS to explain why are they supporting such a POS who has crapping on so many unfortunate souls in this Country and World?

Thanks for your courage.

The monster in the WH will soon be gone in Nov. 2020. I can't wait.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:59 AM

28. Thanks for this post

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

33. KnR!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

34. Together we will turn Florida Blue

I’m with you!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 06:25 PM

36. Glad to have a post updating us on Lil bit...sounds like she's doing well!❤❤

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 06:26 PM

37. K and R..

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:04 PM

38. So now there's a "silent" Biden

vote? Who can keep up?

I just figure that those people who are “shy” voters support Trump

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:17 PM

39. Your story lifted my spirit, thank you for telling it. And: hang in there -- I think it's getting

better ...

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:59 PM

40. great!

I remember reading your post about having problems with the local idiots awhile back
Glad things are looking up!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:16 PM

42. Really great read, thanks

Good news is uncommon.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 04:42 AM

47. So how many 2016 Trump voters

discovered he couldn't deliver on his promises, decided to not bother voting this time or vote the other way, but are too embarrassed about their original naive choice, and are quiet about it?

I hope there's lots! Millions, even!

Of course the Trump humpers who think Dems will take away their guns, castrate them while they sleep, steal their money and rape their women, well, not much hope for them, really.

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