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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:18 AM Sep 2020

Cohen gives credit where it's due: "The free press gave America Trump."

"Donald Trump's presidency is a product of the free press," he writes. "Not free as in freedom of expression, I mean free as unpaid for. Rallies broadcast live, tweets, press conferences, idiotic interviews, 24-7 wall-to-wall coverage, all without spending a penny. The free press gave America Trump."

"Right, left, moderate, tabloid, broadsheet, television, radio, Internet, Facebook -- that is who elected Trump and might well elect him again."

https://www.kten.com/story/42595016/in-tell-all-book-michael-cohen-says-trump-hired-a-faux-bama-during-white-house-run

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Cohen gives credit where it's due: "The free press gave America Trump." (Original Post) kpete Sep 2020 OP
In Mary Trump's book she alluded that most of the press has been giving the trump family still_one Sep 2020 #1
US hasn't had a free press in decades, so that line by Cohen is bullshit beachbumbob Sep 2020 #2
He says specifically in the quote that he does not mean free as in freedom of expression. enough Sep 2020 #5
it happen because MSM is corporate owned and they saw trump benefit coming beachbumbob Sep 2020 #7
100% correct Yeehah Sep 2020 #8
I am pretty sure that the majority of Americans first heard of Donald Trump ms liberty Sep 2020 #3
The U.S. doesn't have a free press; it's bought and paid for. abqtommy Sep 2020 #4
Not what he meant by "free". nt Codeine Sep 2020 #9
It's not what he meant, it's what I meant... abqtommy Sep 2020 #11
nothing is free AlexSFCA Sep 2020 #19
Hours of empty podiums while ignoring Democratic new conferences. rickford66 Sep 2020 #6
KNR Lucinda Sep 2020 #10
They knew it was bullshit, and they spread it with great enthusiasm - verbatim, at no charge. dalton99a Sep 2020 #12
I recall a statement by the President of NBC flamin lib Sep 2020 #13
It was CBS, not NBC. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #15
Thanks for the correction. Morning Joe still did his part.nt flamin lib Sep 2020 #16
Oh for sure! They all did. They showed his rallies every damn day, from preshow to end. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #17
Just one of many examples of the failure of unfettered capitalism in a society DSandra Sep 2020 #28
In the early days of broadcast tv the news was considered a flamin lib Sep 2020 #29
Will the Corporate Media do it again on election night before all the votes are counted? jalan48 Sep 2020 #14
Trump's like COVID. The US free press "immune system" had never encountered something so bad. gulliver Sep 2020 #18
I wish I could share your optimism..... MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #21
Yeah, I'm "cautiously optimistic" and agree with the wait and see gulliver Sep 2020 #25
They had no problem with negative reporting on Hillary based on BS Lies JI7 Sep 2020 #31
They've learned a lot. They're fine. Except Fox "News"... gulliver Sep 2020 #33
If the "free" press" gave America Trump ... Martin Eden Sep 2020 #20
Ain't that the truth.But most Trumpers think the media is controlled by the left. To which I say, Pepsidog Sep 2020 #22
Don't blame the left for Trump, you hamhock! Aristus Sep 2020 #23
CNN single-handedly made him the GOP nominee Azathoth Sep 2020 #24
Specifically, Jeff Zucker dalton99a Sep 2020 #26
Not to mention NBC moondust Sep 2020 #27
They lick his boots like he licks Putin's... Blue Owl Sep 2020 #30
Never forget and there needs to be a movie made based on this JI7 Sep 2020 #32

still_one

(92,162 posts)
1. In Mary Trump's book she alluded that most of the press has been giving the trump family
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:26 AM
Sep 2020

free PR that they knew was false for decades

It seems to me that most of the press after the first term of trump are finally pushing back on the falsehoods and lies that they helped create the myth of the trump family


 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. US hasn't had a free press in decades, so that line by Cohen is bullshit
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:31 AM
Sep 2020

the MSM is corporate owned and operated and hence will spin the propaganda as needed from MSNBC to foxnews

enough

(13,256 posts)
5. He says specifically in the quote that he does not mean free as in freedom of expression.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:44 AM
Sep 2020

He means free as in unpaid endless publicity.

Yeehah

(4,586 posts)
8. 100% correct
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:33 AM
Sep 2020

The sad thing is, a great portion of DU posts are recitals and lamentations regarding the mega-corporate broadcast/cable news media. It seems so many people sit around watching that crap 24/7 and then come on to DU to complain or give their reviews. The mega-corps that own our broadcast media will not allow it to be free. They will project the information they see fit, always attempting to maintain a veneer of objectivity.

There is still some objective journalism and reporting in the print media, but none on TV with the rare exceptions like Free Speech TV, which are not owned by Disney, etc.

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/democracyondeadline/mediaownership.html

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
3. I am pretty sure that the majority of Americans first heard of Donald Trump
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:34 AM
Sep 2020

By seeing him on "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous." He's been a reality teevee star since before we called them that. Most of the names we call him have been around for a lot longer, though

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
19. nothing is free
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:09 PM
Sep 2020

he just got sponsored. But I fail to see the benefit to CNN when trump has been consistently labeling the network as fake news. To the point that CNN has now become an opinion “journalism” talk show cable channel.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
13. I recall a statement by the President of NBC
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:14 AM
Sep 2020

'He's a disaster for the country but great for ratings.'

And Morning Joe taking his calls at any time, breaking into regular programming and letting him ramble for minutes.

So, yeah, they over presented Trump while over presenting accounts of Hillary's health and HER EMAILS!!

DSandra

(999 posts)
28. Just one of many examples of the failure of unfettered capitalism in a society
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 01:48 PM
Sep 2020

There should be a line drawn that capitalist greed stops when it leads to betrayal of one's country / treason.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
29. In the early days of broadcast tv the news was considered a
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 02:10 PM
Sep 2020

public service and had no advertising. Evening news was about 15 minutes and basic headlines.

Now the news broadcasts are income producers and as such chase sensation at the cost of honest news content. If it bleeds it leads!

Broadcast networks are still required to provide a certain amount of Public Service but it's all relegated to time slots between 2 and 4 AM.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
18. Trump's like COVID. The US free press "immune system" had never encountered something so bad.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:39 AM
Sep 2020

I don't blame the press. I think, like any institution, the legitimate press changes at a relatively slow pace. To me, that's usually good, because we want it to be very, very difficult to sway the press from established, core journalistic values. We want it to be an immovable rock when it comes to the truth.

But then in comes Trump. The legitimate press was completely thrown into a state of shock, in my opinion. Could they use the term "lie?" Could they simply state that a news subject's statements were repeated and repeatedly shown to lack any evidence? How do they deal with someone who doesn't respond to a reported fact in any way other than to say that it's fake?

Trump's a unique organism in our time. I don't blame the legitimate press for having trouble getting their bearings. They seem to have them now. They are more likely to call out lying now, and less likely to echo and re-echo nasty trivia. Cancel culture is diminishing too. That spells good things for the future.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
21. I wish I could share your optimism.....
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

but I'm in more of a "wait & see" time myself. Yes, the "media" does seem to be more serious about presenting actual truth and is actively working on the "loser" story and not just letting it go.
However, they have lots to prove and have 2 months in which to do so.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
31. They had no problem with negative reporting on Hillary based on BS Lies
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 02:30 PM
Sep 2020

but they had trouble with facts about trump.

fuck them

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
33. They've learned a lot. They're fine. Except Fox "News"...
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 02:37 PM
Sep 2020

...which should go down with the SS Trump.

Thanks to Trump, the legitimate news now has a new arsenal of tactics and publication guidance. They screwed up. No doubt about it. You can tell they know it by what they've been doing now with all the trivial, dummy-bait stories Trump used to thrive so much on.

Trump II pops up, and he or she's going to be tromped by the legitimate media and, if I had to guess, even in Republican bubble porn entertainment sources such as Fox News.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
20. If the "free" press" gave America Trump ...
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

... in that respect, the free press IS the enemy of the people.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
22. Ain't that the truth.But most Trumpers think the media is controlled by the left. To which I say,
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:18 PM
Sep 2020

years ago I had to get a subscription. To Sirius to even listen to lefty talk radio and that was slim pickings. Fox and right wing radio has settled these peoples' minds and ability to think. Many rural areas only have Fox and RW radio so is it surprising that they are brainwashed, what choice do they have? There just isn't any alternative views. MSNBC is a flea compared to Fox and many rural areas don't have any left leaning media outlets. And this is the problem that will continue to polarize the country. All Trumpers spout the same misinformed propaganda about the left. Liberals want to take from the rich and give to the poor. Dems want to give illegal immigrants free everything, education. housing, healthcare etc. Trump is a brilliant businessman who sacrificed to run for president. Trump tells it like it is and sticks it to China etc. He was first leader to meet with Kim Jung Un, like that is a good thing. Trump handled the pandemic brilliantly. Libs want to take your guns away. Just a litany of Fox and RW BS that they think is good for America because that is all they hear. Can we blame these misinformed dupes?

Aristus

(66,325 posts)
23. Don't blame the left for Trump, you hamhock!
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:22 PM
Sep 2020

He’s your accomplishment!

Liberal media outlets spent a year and a half imploring the country not to vote for your dangerously unqualified and incompetent candidate.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
24. CNN single-handedly made him the GOP nominee
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:27 PM
Sep 2020

Even *Fox* thought he was a complete joke and tried to keep him marginalized. Most news outlets treated him like the unserious stunt he was. But CNN gave him credulous wall-to-wall coverage everytime he burped. They legitimized him for ratings, and then everyone else was forced to follow.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
27. Not to mention NBC
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 01:37 PM
Sep 2020

running all those years of "The Apprentice," a hoax in which Donny pretended to be an all-knowing wise man who knew what it takes to be a big success in business--after himself inheriting a hefty fortune and turning it into multiple bankruptcies.

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