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That 17 year old was charged with 1st degree murder! GOOOOOD!

musette_sf
(10,393 posts)to arrest Mom.
leftieNanner
(15,978 posts)And the crazy-in-the-head "ammo"?
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Baclava
(12,047 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)But you are right, we should wait for official confirmation. I'll delete my other post.
gristy
(10,719 posts)What you deleted... We won't know for sure unless/when charges are brought.
musette_sf
(10,393 posts)People get sentenced and put away for life for aiding and abetting murder. So, tick-tock...
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)do with that gun? She had to know he had it with them. Where was she while he was raging through the streets?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Everyone apparently read it here.
dware
(15,563 posts)and I'll be damned if I can find any confirmation of that allegation.
George II
(67,782 posts)I presume the gun was in the car, she drove, so she's complicit in first degree murder.
musette_sf
(10,393 posts)so it would make sense that Mommy drove him to Kenosha. If you're set on hunting down innocent people to kill, you wouldn't want to get pulled over and detained on the way there for no valid DL.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/08/27/906566596/alleged-kenosha-shooter-fervently-supported-blue-lives-joined-local-militia
SheltieLover
(69,630 posts)

Freedomofspeech
(4,559 posts)They should charge his mother, too.
634-5789
(4,499 posts)Damned racist deserves not a day less. He ruined the lives of decent people, and it sickens me. No pity, throw the book at him.
leftieNanner
(15,978 posts)Ass Face will pardon him!
imanamerican63
(15,100 posts)
virgogal
(10,178 posts)imanamerican63
(15,100 posts)That brings federal charges?
Dr. Strange
(26,035 posts)But not the state charges.
Voltaire2
(15,376 posts)leftieNanner
(15,978 posts)dware
(15,563 posts)he's being charged and tried by the state of WI, if or when he's convicted, only the Gov. of WI has to power to pardon him.
Mister Ed
(6,612 posts)stillcool
(34,070 posts)ah..exhale.
radius777
(3,921 posts)Best_man23
(5,239 posts)He needs to name names, and I mean EVERYONE...from the person who put him up to picking up that weapon and going up to Kenosha to the names of every member of every RWNJ group he's associated with. Simply put, he would need to give law enforcement EVERYTHING he's got.
If he names some good names that results in some high level actionable prosecutions, he just might avoid a full lifetime of being some alpha neo-Nazi's bottom half.
Frankly, I hope he doesn't have anything, other than being yet another sad example of how following racist ideologies can ruin your life.
rso
(2,564 posts)Murder is a State charge, and since Donnie can only pardon federal charges, the magashooter can only be pardoned by the Governor. And democratic Gov. Evers will not pardon.
brush
(60,215 posts)was done with george zimmerman, to get that murdering kid off with as little time as possible. First degree means you purposely planned someone's killing and carried it out, premeditation.
The killings in that demonstration don't seem to fit that definition, whereas second degree murder is generally described as the unpremeditated intentional killing of another. That's perhaps more appropriate, or maybe aggravated manslaughter, which is when the actor recklessly causes death under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
I just don't want them to pull legal tricks for that murdering kid to get off relatively easy.
MyMission
(2,007 posts)So he planned to kill protesters, not any specific person but any random protesters, who were peaceful and did nothing to provoke him. He was already provoked by right wing dementia when he went there.
brush
(60,215 posts)MyMission
(2,007 posts)To persuade a jury of his premeditation. And perhaps not. We will see. I wonder if the trial process will be swift, and doubt it.
I am saddened and sickened by this; a young unbalanced male shooting into a crowd, at no one in particular. A mass shooting always makes me feel like that.
live love laugh
(15,438 posts)regnaD kciN
(27,094 posts)...so he'd only get a few months in reform school.
After all, charging someone under 18 as an adult isnt supposed to happen to us white people!
CCExile
(524 posts)he shot a WHITE man! (angry sarcasm off)
a hippie protester type. They don't count as white, especially since he's not black!
PTWB
(4,131 posts)dware
(15,563 posts)By the time he goes to trial, he'll probably be 18, and if he's convicted, then he'll be sentenced as a bona fide adult.
live love laugh
(15,438 posts)
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom
Voltaire2
(15,376 posts)And self defense is going to be a non-starter.
He's screwed. Best hope is a jury of shitheads.
maxsolomon
(36,651 posts)I've already ben seeing the Asst DA being slandered as a puppet of George Soros.
The charge is appropriate, but a lesser charge (2nd degree, even Man 1) might be more palatable to a jury who'll need to be sequestered for the duration.
Plus, it only takes 1 RW Jury-Nullifier to lie during selection and bollocks the whole trial up. See: the Hokoanas in Seattle, the Bundys in Portland. The selection process is going to be excruciating and blatantly racist.
My opinion: he won't get life for this. 25.
Reader Rabbit
(2,689 posts)If the DA offers a lesser charge, the kid's attorney might jump at it.
Dan
(4,724 posts)The two men he killed were White.
philf99
(273 posts)I would assume his bail will be quite high.
Evolve Dammit
(20,773 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)And do we know anything about his parents or other family?
I'll admit I'm not familiar with gun laws in every state, but can it be legal for someone under 18 to openly carry a gun? If I was a cop I would have at least asked him for an ID earlier. Cops talked to him and didn't think of that? And he very much looks like he's even younger than he is.
dware
(15,563 posts)unsupervised by an adult, so the cops that just let him pass should be brought up on charges also for negligence, and possibly accessory to the fact because they didn't do their job and ID him, especially as he looks younger than 17.
Because we know that little Black kids are killed by the police for carrying a water gun while playing in city parks within a few seconds of intervention by police.
Traildogbob
(11,278 posts)And the 3rd wounded practically had his arm severed with the war toy. The chubby little puke may be an incel. He may get some attention, but just not from 17 year old high school girls. If he lives a day in prison.
BigmanPigman
(53,157 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)I've read that he is a cop wannabe, a pretender, a fake.
Was he ever in some junior LEO training program or is this just his Halloween costume?
BigmanPigman
(53,157 posts)"His mom also posted photos of him clad in a blue cadet uniform adorned with a badge and the teen had participated in cadet programs with the Grayslake Police Department, according to the Washington Post.
It allows wannabes from 14 to 21 the opportunity to explore a career in law enforcement through ride-alongs with officers on patrol and firearms training, according to since-deleted pages on its website. The Grayslake Police Department said it is cooperating with an investigation by the FBI and Kenosha police into Rittenhouse."
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He killed two people.
And attempted murder, I would hope, for the guy whose arm he probably ruined.
Tetrachloride
(8,764 posts)
Kenosha County District Attorney Michael Graveley filed the charges against Kyle Rittenhouse Thursday afternoon.
The charges include one count of first-degree intentional homicide; one count of first-degree reckless homicide; one count of attempted first-degree intentional homicide; two counts of first-degree reckless endangerment.
George II
(67,782 posts)- He's 17 years old
- He'll be sentenced to life imprisonment
- That could be 60 years
SIXTY years of being told when to get up, when to eat, when to go to bed, and constant noise around him. Then he'll die.
If executed, he'd miss out on all of that. He'll simply die.
Which is the worst punishment?
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Timothy McVeigh wanted execution.
He would rather be a martyr than a lifetime of prison.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Zimmerman part deux